On the fifth day of Sparklemas...
Jun. 28th, 2010 10:06 am... my blogger gave to me: IIIIIIIII'M NOT A FAAAAAAAN.
MSNBC: Why doesn’t ‘Twilight’ have a Team Bella?
And there I am, front and center--described as "Cleolinda Jones, a 31-year-old 'Twilight' fan from Birmingham, Ala," in a turn of phrase that elicited great chagrin on Twitter.
@cleolinda: I love how this is what stops everyone short. RT @gorgeousnerd: @cleolinda: Calling you a "Twilight fan" doesn't seem descriptive enough.
@mellymell: @cleolinda Heh, so I wasn't the only one who went "huh" when I read that.
@aranel13: @cleolinda You're more like a Twilight den mother.
@QueenofSix: @cleolinda I feel that Twilight victim might be more accurate!
Honestly, this is something I have been struggling with since 2008, as can be heard in this audio clip ("SHUT UP!"). I would say that truly "being a fan" of something involves a genuine sense of admiration, which... I don't have. (Except, maybe, for the brave souls grappling with the task of adapting these books into functional movies; I have been known to express a lot of admiration for them.) And yet, I spend too much time talking about this godforsaken thing to argue the "fan" label in good conscience. Because you know what? Star Wars fans spend a lot of time complaining and snarking and bagging on George Lucas, and yet... no one denies that they are, in fact, still fans. The best excuse I can make for myself is that Twilight may be a unique media phenomenon in which people love to hate it (and hate to love it) as vocerifously as the people who straight-up love it. And, of course, there's the fanthropology aspect, which fascinates me across the board. It's complicated, is what I'm saying. But if I weren't having fun, I wouldn't be here right now. So.
(I will say that the "I am so sick of posting Twi-spam, I can't stand it anymore" issue from Sparklemas 2008, as mentioned in that clip, isn't a problem now, because I've just started picking a few things and commenting on them, rather than doing exhaustive clearinghouse posts.)
Meanwhile, Roger Ebert posted on Twitter that both Variety and the Hollywood Reporter have given Eclipse good--good!--reviews. (And you know they're sincerely good reviews because both sites actually take the time to snark on the rest of the series.) And then, you have to take into account this interview with director David Slade, wherein his approach to the movie seems to boil down to "BE VAMPIRES, GODDAMMIT!" You guys? I think... I think he's made it... awesome.
Unfortunately, this is going to make my job very, very hard. That's okay. I try not to post these things until at least the Monday after a movie comes out, because of the joyous "Now I don't have to see the movie!" comments I get. (Not that I could ever take away a significant amount of business from any film, but I'd like to cover my ass, and the first weekend seems to be the most important.) And if I go see it on Wednesday (the Lovely Emily and I are developing plans to this effect) (tickets acquired! Sparkle help us all), I'll have a good four days before I could even post it if I wanted to. Granted, writing the Twilight 15Ms seems to involve a ten-day tailspin, on average, but what I'm saying is, I'll have a good four days' head start on the meltdown.
We have a little movement on the Edward Cullen Cat situation--
snowcoma has begun the process of trying to adopt him for her mother ("I am ready to form a PRAYER CIRCLE to make sure this little guy gets to live with my mom"), but apparently one cannot just walk into Mordor a pet store and rescue a cat; one has to consult various agencies and foster families and such. I will indulge myself now of visions of Edward's foster-owner-mother being perfectly pleasant on the phone with someone, and then calling up the Humane Society like, "Ixnay on that one, she says she has a 'lion and lamb' tattoo. I told you, no fangirls!" Whereas I imagine the pet store itself is desperate to place him.
cleolinda: You know the people at the pet store are just like, "You seem nice, he'll go to a good home, that's great, JUST PLEASE TAKE HIM, IT'S KILLING US." Can you imagine poor homeless Edward Cat chagrining at you all day long?
windowintheface: "Of course no one wants to adopt me. I'm a monster."
cleolinda: Tiny, masochistic lion!
windowintheface: You're like my own personal brand of catnip.
He's dangerous for you, what if he's the bad cat, this is the fur of a killer, etc. (Although this does bring a new meaning to that scene in the first movie where Actual Edward's reading people's minds: "Sex... money... sex... money... cat?") PLEASE APPROVE THIS ADOPTION, HUMANE SOCIETY. I CAN'T TAKE MUCH MORE OF THAT SAD LITTLE FACE.

MSNBC: Why doesn’t ‘Twilight’ have a Team Bella?
And there I am, front and center--described as "Cleolinda Jones, a 31-year-old 'Twilight' fan from Birmingham, Ala," in a turn of phrase that elicited great chagrin on Twitter.
@cleolinda: I love how this is what stops everyone short. RT @gorgeousnerd: @cleolinda: Calling you a "Twilight fan" doesn't seem descriptive enough.
@mellymell: @cleolinda Heh, so I wasn't the only one who went "huh" when I read that.
@aranel13: @cleolinda You're more like a Twilight den mother.
@QueenofSix: @cleolinda I feel that Twilight victim might be more accurate!
Honestly, this is something I have been struggling with since 2008, as can be heard in this audio clip ("SHUT UP!"). I would say that truly "being a fan" of something involves a genuine sense of admiration, which... I don't have. (Except, maybe, for the brave souls grappling with the task of adapting these books into functional movies; I have been known to express a lot of admiration for them.) And yet, I spend too much time talking about this godforsaken thing to argue the "fan" label in good conscience. Because you know what? Star Wars fans spend a lot of time complaining and snarking and bagging on George Lucas, and yet... no one denies that they are, in fact, still fans. The best excuse I can make for myself is that Twilight may be a unique media phenomenon in which people love to hate it (and hate to love it) as vocerifously as the people who straight-up love it. And, of course, there's the fanthropology aspect, which fascinates me across the board. It's complicated, is what I'm saying. But if I weren't having fun, I wouldn't be here right now. So.
(I will say that the "I am so sick of posting Twi-spam, I can't stand it anymore" issue from Sparklemas 2008, as mentioned in that clip, isn't a problem now, because I've just started picking a few things and commenting on them, rather than doing exhaustive clearinghouse posts.)
Meanwhile, Roger Ebert posted on Twitter that both Variety and the Hollywood Reporter have given Eclipse good--good!--reviews. (And you know they're sincerely good reviews because both sites actually take the time to snark on the rest of the series.) And then, you have to take into account this interview with director David Slade, wherein his approach to the movie seems to boil down to "BE VAMPIRES, GODDAMMIT!" You guys? I think... I think he's made it... awesome.
Unfortunately, this is going to make my job very, very hard. That's okay. I try not to post these things until at least the Monday after a movie comes out, because of the joyous "Now I don't have to see the movie!" comments I get. (Not that I could ever take away a significant amount of business from any film, but I'd like to cover my ass, and the first weekend seems to be the most important.) And if I go see it on Wednesday (the Lovely Emily and I are developing plans to this effect) (tickets acquired! Sparkle help us all), I'll have a good four days before I could even post it if I wanted to. Granted, writing the Twilight 15Ms seems to involve a ten-day tailspin, on average, but what I'm saying is, I'll have a good four days' head start on the meltdown.
We have a little movement on the Edward Cullen Cat situation--
He's dangerous for you, what if he's the bad cat, this is the fur of a killer, etc. (Although this does bring a new meaning to that scene in the first movie where Actual Edward's reading people's minds: "Sex... money... sex... money... cat?") PLEASE APPROVE THIS ADOPTION, HUMANE SOCIETY. I CAN'T TAKE MUCH MORE OF THAT SAD LITTLE FACE.
no subject
Date: 2010-06-28 03:09 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-06-28 03:13 pm (UTC)2)Good reviews? This may be an alternate universe. Heh. The trailer still cracks me up, though.
3) MSNBC may have just lost the little credibily they still had. DO YOUR RESEARCH, people. It's in your job description.
Also: Twilight den mother is so awesome and so, so apt.
no subject
Date: 2010-06-28 03:16 pm (UTC)Although, really, we could have solved this problem by simply saying "writer" instead of "Twilight fan."
(no subject)
From:(no subject)
From:(no subject)
From:(no subject)
From:(no subject)
From:(no subject)
From:(no subject)
From:(no subject)
From:(no subject)
From:(no subject)
From:(no subject)
From:(no subject)
From:(no subject)
From:(no subject)
From:(no subject)
From:(no subject)
From:(no subject)
From:no subject
Date: 2010-06-28 03:15 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-06-28 03:18 pm (UTC)He's accompanied by his own Sarah McLachlan song, isn't he?
This is why I'm not allowed to go to pet stores. Or walk past them. Or think about them.
(no subject)
From:(no subject)
From:(no subject)
From:(no subject)
From:(no subject)
From:(no subject)
From:(no subject)
From:(no subject)
From:(no subject)
From:(no subject)
From:(no subject)
From:(no subject)
From:(no subject)
From:(no subject)
From:(no subject)
From:(no subject)
From:(no subject)
From:(no subject)
From:(no subject)
From:(no subject)
From:(no subject)
From:(no subject)
From:no subject
Date: 2010-06-28 03:17 pm (UTC)As for poor Edward Cat, I just hope whoever takes him is willing to supply him with plenty of scrapbooking material.
no subject
Date: 2010-06-28 03:18 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-06-28 03:19 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-06-28 03:31 pm (UTC)(no subject)
From:(no subject)
From:(no subject)
From:(no subject)
From:(no subject)
From:(no subject)
From:You can blame SCIENCE for Twihards! ...wait what
From:(no subject)
From:(no subject)
From:(no subject)
From:(no subject)
From:(no subject)
From:(no subject)
From:(no subject)
From:(no subject)
From:(no subject)
From:(no subject)
From:(no subject)
From:(no subject)
From:(no subject)
From:(no subject)
From:(no subject)
From:(no subject)
From:(no subject)
From:(no subject)
From:(no subject)
From:(no subject)
From:(no subject)
From:(no subject)
From:(no subject)
From:no subject
Date: 2010-06-28 03:48 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-06-28 03:55 pm (UTC)Love, The Internets.
no subject
Date: 2010-06-28 04:09 pm (UTC)(no subject)
From:(no subject)
From:(no subject)
From:(no subject)
From:(no subject)
From:no subject
Date: 2010-06-28 04:00 pm (UTC)Although the international aspect gives it a whole new flavor of How Could This Plan Possibly Go Wrong...
no subject
Date: 2010-06-28 04:01 pm (UTC)Does "satire" just not translate anymore? I mean, Smeyer doesn't seem to understand that The Princess Bride is satire (she once compared Bella to Buttercup and was all: "Bella's a better character.") so maybe that's it. No one gets mockery anymore.
I'm chagrinned to think of what would happen if "A Modest Proposal" was reprinted.
By the way, I admire your strength and ability to analyze these books without resorting to the drastic means (http://quicksilvermad.livejournal.com/284912.html) of dealing with this nonsense the way I did. I lost my temper big time.
no subject
Date: 2010-06-28 04:08 pm (UTC)I. . .what. . .this. . .happened? Please no.
(no subject)
From:(no subject)
From:(no subject)
From:(no subject)
From:(no subject)
From:(no subject)
From:(no subject)
From:(no subject)
From:(no subject)
From:(no subject)
From:(no subject)
From:(no subject)
From:(no subject)
From:(no subject)
From:(no subject)
From:(no subject)
From:(no subject)
From:(no subject)
From:(no subject)
From:(no subject)
From:(no subject)
From:(no subject)
From:(no subject)
From:(no subject)
From:(no subject)
From:(no subject)
From:(no subject)
From:no subject
Date: 2010-06-28 04:02 pm (UTC)Best line in the movie. Well, only good line in the movie.
no subject
Date: 2010-06-28 04:17 pm (UTC)Which, honestly, is the reason I have developed an affection for the way Melissa Rosenberg wrote the first movie, because rather than have Edward be a poised male model-type like the book, he's a doof with his first girlfriend, and it makes sense. The part where he takes her to meet the family is just pure teenage boy, and it's a lot more relatable and psychologically believable than beige turtlenecks and high-handedness.
Which is one of the problems with the setup of the whole series, IMO. Meyer comes at it from the angle of, "A 100-year-old vampire at my school falls in love with me!" rather than, "I'm a 100-year-old vampire, why the hell am I still in high school?" So the way Rosenberg writes it, you can see what the logical consequences of that kind of arrested development are.
(And once again, I have put TOO MUCH THOUGHT into this damn thing.)
(no subject)
From:(no subject)
From:(no subject)
From:(no subject)
From:(no subject)
From:(no subject)
From:Wich is the best reason we want Midnight Sun
From:(no subject)
From:(no subject)
From:no subject
Date: 2010-06-28 04:07 pm (UTC)I got pre-show tickets so I'm seeing it on Tuesday evening. Want me to fill you in on whether David Slade did, indeed, make it awesome?
no subject
Date: 2010-06-28 04:18 pm (UTC)(no subject)
From:(no subject)
From:(no subject)
From:(no subject)
From:(no subject)
From:no subject
Date: 2010-06-28 04:10 pm (UTC)Operation: Save Edward Cullen Catcat adoption has turned into a three-man operation. Animal adoptions from the shelter are sooo much quicker. Just fill out a couple forms--in which the questions are hilarious--and you've got a brand new pet. I hope everything works out.no subject
Date: 2010-06-28 04:24 pm (UTC)2) WHAT THEY THINK BELLA IS MORE REALASKLDFJ;ASDF REALISTIC THAN AL;SDKJFAD HERMIONE GRANGER WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH THESE PEOPLE AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH.
*cries in the corner, looking to regain shreds of rationality*
no subject
Date: 2010-06-28 04:36 pm (UTC)I would like to suggest a corollary where someone who does not have kids can self-identify as a Twimom, so as to participate in the community, but someone who does not self-identify cannot be
libeledlabeled a Twimom by a third party. Because, seriously. I can't live with that. I'm not a fan and I'm not a mom, white chocolate is neither white nor chocolate, YOU CAN'T DO THIS TO ME.(no subject)
From:(no subject)
From:(no subject)
From:(no subject)
From:(no subject)
From:my thought exactly
From:(no subject)
From:(no subject)
From:I disagree on that not Team Bella idea...well not really just my two cents.
From:Twilight Written As If It Were Intentionally Disturbing
From:(no subject)
From:no subject
Date: 2010-06-28 05:09 pm (UTC)cleolinda: Tiny, masochistic lion!"
inappropriately loud laughter at work is inappropriate
no subject
Date: 2010-06-28 05:38 pm (UTC)Just in case you were feeling masochistic and wanted to read it, for some reason.
i personally read it...
Date: 2010-06-28 06:07 pm (UTC)I actually liked all the characters, and Wanda.
so out of curiosity, other than the pointed repeated vocabulary, what you didn't liked about it?
Re: i personally read it...
From:Re: i personally read it...
From:Re: i personally read it...
From:(no subject)
From:(no subject)
From:(no subject)
From:(no subject)
From:(no subject)
From:(no subject)
From:(no subject)
From:(no subject)
From:no subject
Date: 2010-06-28 05:54 pm (UTC)I really want that kitty. :( I just suspect it'd be a bit difficult to make happen all the way in Ohio and my cat Sparta would probably duel it out for my affections.
no subject
Date: 2010-06-28 09:16 pm (UTC)(no subject)
From:no subject
Date: 2010-06-28 06:02 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-06-28 06:34 pm (UTC)The stories are purely BEGGING to be parodied.
The fandom is absolutely frothing at the mouth to be parodied.
All the ancillary merchandise for the franchise is screaming for attention.
And all of the above is basically UNAWARE of the natural irony built into it all. Or perhaps it's just gob-smacked by the flowing rush that is Twiland of the Cullens.
Personally, I've loved all of what you've done about Twilight as a series, because it reflects my own reactions to it: rather that "OMG did I really just see/read/hear that?!@?!" reaction, as well as being dumbfounded at the reactions of those who tend to take their fandom a bit TOO seriously. Apply liberally to any other fandom you like: Star Wars, Harry Potter, etc.
Good on you, Cleolinda!
Grey :)
no subject
Date: 2010-06-28 07:30 pm (UTC)And OMG SAD KITTY FACE! (I will never be an evil overlord. You could just throw kitties and puppies at me making sad faces and I'd be there going "Whosasadwiddlekitty? You is! Yes you is!")
no subject
Date: 2010-06-28 08:42 pm (UTC)Yeah, I pretty much go straight for the pets whenever I'm over at someone else's house. It's ridiculous.
(no subject)
From:(no subject)
From:(no subject)
From:no subject
Date: 2010-06-28 07:55 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-06-28 11:22 pm (UTC)(no subject)
From:Good kitty news!
Date: 2010-06-28 08:09 pm (UTC)JacobHank (a snuggly flame-point siamese) no matter what. It's almost impossible for me to be objective at this point, because I've spent the past few days obsessing over whether or not Edward could even be adopted.The good news here is that neither of them is facing euthanasia. But I still get to meet two cats and only pick one. *flails wildly*
I shall keep you updated!
Re: Good kitty news!
Date: 2010-06-28 08:54 pm (UTC)Re: Good kitty news!
From:Re: Good kitty news!
From:Re: Good kitty news!
From:Re: Good kitty news!
From:Re: Good kitty news!
From:no subject
Date: 2010-06-28 08:49 pm (UTC)All I could think of during that scene was that surely most of the people in a restaurant would be thinking about food?
And no one is having a dinner conversation? About anything (other than sex, money, and cats)?
Unless Edward is being overly broad and labeling under "sex" all thoughts about on'e dining companion and any other people, and all thoughts relating to careers or any non-free leisure activities under "money?"
no subject
Date: 2010-06-28 08:57 pm (UTC)(no subject)
From:no subject
Date: 2010-06-28 09:27 pm (UTC)One day I walked into our shelter and said "I want that one", filled out a form, got a free bag of food and stuff and that was that.
no subject
Date: 2010-06-28 09:38 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-06-28 09:51 pm (UTC)It would be epic :D
no subject
Date: 2010-06-29 01:10 am (UTC)(no subject)
From:(no subject)
From:I think you could work on that but make it more broad
From:no subject
Date: 2010-06-28 11:55 pm (UTC)