onoz two days in a row

[cleolinda]

So, to recap from yesterday's entry plus the ETA, in which Twilight somehow got even creepier: based on new information about Breaking Dawn (spoiler: Nahuel is a sea monster), I have now developed a theory that there will be future books, and they will focus on the most pointless love triangle of all time (and after the original four books, that is really saying something). In an ETA, I developed a secondary theory that instead of having Nahuel meeble over Renesmee for several books and then get imprinted on by Leah (she can't have kids! he shouldn't! LET'S PUT THEM BOTH TOGETHER), Renesmee will decide that, hey! Imprinting means that Jacob has to be whatever she wants! So how about they be nothing but friends while she goes off with The Only Other One of Her Kind? And thus, Jacob will get screwed over by two generations of Swan women in favor of sparklepires. Which option is more ridiculously plausible? Discuss.

And then we got to talking in the comments, and I realized I had never discussed the Clare Quilty Conundrum in an entry proper. Yeah, it's bad. It's so bad. Even worse, it's completely inexplicable.  

cleolinda: I have to think that 1) someone suggested the names to her, snickering all the way; 2) she heard them somewhere and didn't know the context; 3) this is the greatest cosmic coincidence of all time.

incogra: Oh man, just the thought of possibility #1 has cheered me up. I would buy that person all the beers.

And with that, I think I have officially run out of things to horrify you with. I am pretty sure that's all I've got at this moment in time. There's nothing else I've forgotten; I am holding nothing else back.

Except, wait--did I ever mention that I suddenly realized, like, a year and a half after reading Breaking Dawn, why the whole wedding night fade-to-black sex scene starts out in the "warm, tropical waters"?

Go get yourself a popsicle and think it over.


Meanwhile, LiveJournal is up to new shenanigans. Actually, I found one of them really helpful, one of them potentially obnoxious due to inevitable user abuse, and only one of them a little bit shady.

1. If you have a Facebook account, you can comment on LJ with it.

See, this is great for me, because so many people have Facebooks that, if you added in Twitter users, you'd pretty much cover 95% of everyone who reads this journal who wants to comment but can't. (Occasionally people get an LJ account just to do so, but the reluctance with which they do it tells me there are more people who would like to comment but don't to go such lengths.) I don't really care if you comment under a real name or a fake one, but I want people to attach their comments to some kind of identity, because that makes them less likely to flame me (see: The Greater Internet Fuckwad Theory). Occasionally you get a cleoloindaisgay, but that was one of the most awesome things that ever happened here, so I'm okay with that.


2. You can now cross-post your random-ass, context-free LJ comments to your Facebook and/or Twitter.

I think you can see how some spam-happy people with no sense of moderation could turn this into a massive annoyance. However: if you do not enable this, and/or you do not tell LJ what your Facebook and/or Twitter accounts are, it will not happen. Unlike everything else on every other social network ever, you actually have to opt in to this, and go to some length to do so. Even then, I'm pretty sure you either can set the feature to approve this for each comment individually. And if you're sick of seeing the useless ticky boxes you don't want to use anyway, there's a Firefox extension for that. But LJ is not making you annoy the shit out of everyone on the internet. That's totally your call.


3. Please note that you can choose to have comments posted to protected entries cross-posted to Facebook and/or Twitter, and the text of those comments will appear to all your followers on those sites, but clicking the link will not show the full entry to anyone who does not have access to view it. The cross-posting options will automatically be unchecked when commenting to a Friends Only or Private post, so that no protected comments are sent to Facebook or Twitter by accident.

Well, this is... ill-advised. They pretty much need to take the option to cross-post anything on an entry that is not public, period, off the table. However... I hate to break it to you, but people you trusted being able to screw you over is not new. People can cross-post an entry link/comment fragment to Twitter... or they can copy the whole thing out and repost it on their journal, just the way they always could. Maybe I'm an idiot, but I'm not seeing the Shock Horror here. It's not a good idea per se, but LJ is trying to help people not do it accidentally; I'm sure some well-meaning people will cross-post comments they think look innocuous, but again: they always could have done that. LJ has done some objectively shady things. I just don't think this is one of them.

Anyway. I look forward to getting my ass chewed off in the comments. By which I mean, I am looking for my riot gear.

ETA: Okay--on the other hand, here's a good explanation of how #3 is a problem. I think I'm having a hard time visualizing all the information a cross-post would give away (maybe because I don't pay attention to Facebook, where you have more than 140 characters for a message). Also, why you would ever want to do it in the first place. Like I said, it's a bad idea, regardless.

ETA 2: In the name of science, what a cross-post looks like on Twitter. It won't let me connect to Facebook (?). There are some definite issues.


 Linkspam! Apple announces revamped Apple TV, new iPods, music social network Ping; Apple To Offer ABC & Fox Shows For 99C; Other Nets & Studios Oppose The Plan.

This $18M mansion here in town has 15 bedrooms, 16 full baths, 2 poolside cabana homes, a movie theater, an apartment in a barn, and 12 office cubicles. Just like I always wanted.

Oxford English Dictionary 'will not be printed again.'

American Girl's Felicity line discontinued. D: D: D:

Two new Deathly Hallows pics from Empire (oh, Scrimgeour); NBC Developing 'Harry Potter For Adults.'

@justinpie: @cleolinda if you keep sending NBC Ron-Draco slash, they will eventually make a show out of it.

First Look at Ian McShane as Blackbeard in Pirates of the Caribbean 4.

Alexander Skarsgard Says He Handles 'A Big Gun' In 'Battleship'; First Look at 'Battleship': Rihanna Pretends She's in the Navy.

Black Swan's Venice Debut: Is This The Psycho Ballerina Movie We've Been Waiting For?; 'Black Swan' Reviews Call Film "Weird, Sexy and Devastating";
Black Swan and The Wrestler originally envisioned as one movie (...what?); Natalie Portman's gown is pretty awesome.

REVIEW: Machete Cuts Just Deep Enough to Leave a Mark.

'The Chronicles Of Narnia: The Voyage Of The Dawn Treader' Sets Out For MTV's Fall Preview; Kristen Bell Puts On Her 'Burlesque' Show in aforesaid preview as well.

New Image From Zack Snyder's Sucker Punch. Now with 63% more dragon.

New 'Conan' Images Prove Weird Topless Orgy Scene Does Exist! All kinds of weird shit came out today, y'all. I don't even know.

'Nowhere Boy' John Lennon And Paul McCartney Meet For The First Time In This Fall Preview Clip.

"The Rock" Replaces Brendan Fraser in 'Journey 3D' Sequel.

'Kick-Ass 2' Will Happen, But Is It Worth It?

A syllabus and book list for novice students of science fiction literature [Scifi101].

'RoboCop: The Musical' and 'Terminator 2: The Opera' Will Make Your Day.

Watch This: Juliette Binoche Says Gérard Depardieu Might Be Jealous of Her. Man, who picks on Juliette Binoche? She's like... rainbows. Made of ice cream.

And finally: Which Of These Movie Posters Is Worse?



 

Comments

[wendyzski.livejournal.com]

more than 4500 'Hell No' comments on the LJ update page so far

[cleolinda.livejournal.com]

Oh, I know. I understand why people don't like it, and I don't think they should have it. I just don't know that I understand the intensity of the outrage.

[trialia]

Yeeeeeeah... I definitely don't think SMeyer is smart enough to have done that in full knowledge of what she was doing. *g*

[cleolinda.livejournal.com]

I don't think she is either! But then how did it happen?

Just a question

[lokiale (from livejournal.com)]

I don't know if it's a dumb question or one that has been asked a million times before but I don't quite understand.
Why exactly can't you just turn the half vampire kiddies and have them be full vampires so they don't have to deal with people flipping their shitakes over them?
They can't be too human. Are they too vampire? If that's it then... shouldn't there be no problem at all?
Granted asking this is maybe akin to asking a tree, "So one ring every year huh? How did you know about years before we did, Mr. Redwood?" (Pointless and really missing some crucial points somewhere along the way.)
Love your blog, keep being awesome.

Re: Just a question

[cleolinda.livejournal.com]

Well, I suppose it's not possible to turn one supernatural species into another? It's more that they're mostly vampire with a few differences (skin is mildly glowy rather than sparkly, their bite doesn't actually hurt/turn anyone, a couple of things like that). It's like they're a third category, rather than, "Well, let's just get them finished turning."

[michaela0823.livejournal.com]

FELICITY, NOOOO. D:

And my brain refuses to even approach the whole Claire/Quil thing, ohgodohgodohgod.

[roseredhoofbeat.livejournal.com]

FELICITY WAS TOTALLY THE MOST BADASS, AMIRITE. SHE HAD A HORSE.

[plaid-slytherin.livejournal.com]

Thank you for pointing me towards that extension! I was more visually annoyed by the icons than I was by the actual service itself.

And nooooo not Felicity!!! D:

[txvoodoo.livejournal.com]

I'm totally w/ you on the "errr, you realize this just made it easier for people to do shit they did before, right?" and even if you protect the fuck out of your lj (or any other place you blog/post/whatevs) you're still placing trust on others not being assholes (which chance decreases the more people you've got in your social media circle)

Also, while this implementation of it is truly suckworthy, if LJ didn't do it, they'd be falling behind the pack.

In other news, I did not know about this Black Swan thing. Woot!

[ceebeegee.livejournal.com]

I saw the trailer, it looks kickass. Love me some good ballet drama; cheesy or not, I adore Center Stage.

[roseredhoofbeat.livejournal.com]

NO MORE OXFORD ENGLISH DICTIONARY?!?!! MY BIBILOPHILIC RAGE AND DISMAY CANNOT BE CONVEYED. WHAT WILL I USE TO PRESS FLOWERS WITH NOW?! FLATTEN PICTURES THAT GOT BENT?!

ALSO OH MY FUCKING GOD, MATTEL, STOP SHATTERING PIECES OF MY CHILDHOOD INTO TINY TINY PIECES. MY DAUGHTER IS TWO YEARS OLD, I CAN'T BUY HER COLLECTIBLE DOLLS YET!!! NOT FELICITY!!! YOU ALREADY GOT RID OF SAMANTHA AND KIRSTEN!! I have to wait until she can read the books and pick out which one she wants, dammit!!

Please, please God, I am begging you, let those rumors about them being re-released as a special edition for the 25 year anniversary be true. Please. I don't care how much they are. Once my daughter can ask for which doll she wants, I'll pay $300 for it. I swear to God. JUST DON'T TAKE THEM AWAY FOREVER PRETTY PRETTY PLEASE.

[hopeandmemory.livejournal.com]

NO MORE OXFORD ENGLISH DICTIONARY?!?!! MY BIBILOPHILIC RAGE AND DISMAY CANNOT BE CONVEYED.

i'm certain tolkien is turning in his grave right now. D:

[padawansguide.livejournal.com]

2. You can now cross-post your random-ass, context-free LJ comments to your Facebook and/or Twitter.

The problem here is that you can do this for other people's LOCKED posts. People have tested it, and basically the first line of your comment with a link to the locked post is what gets posted.

I guess you say as much in 3) - but I think this is bad for a number of reasons. What if it's not malicious, but maybe you don't want people to know you have an LJ, or what its name is? Or what if it is - sure you can cut and paste, but this is just a new way to screw people over to a potentially broad audience.

And most people just want FB and LJ miles apart. We have different identities on each and want them no where near each other.

That's...not good.

[cleolinda.livejournal.com]

Yeah, it's bad, but--it's not something LJ is forcing you to do automatically, you know? I do hope they change it.

[hopeandmemory.livejournal.com]

what the hell, gerard depardieu? you know, you (and your films, for that matter) were sort of a running joke in my high school french class, so maybe you should get off that high horse you seem to be sitting on... whatever, juliette binoche is a classy dame. loved her in chocolat and dan in real life.

and why on earth are they getting rid of felicity??? she was awesome! :( :( :(

[jennnk.livejournal.com]

15 bedrooms, 16 full baths, 2 poolside cabana homes, a movie theater, an apartment in a barn, and 12 office cubicles

You forgot the six 1/2-baths and the partridge in the pear tree.

[summer-breeze01.livejournal.com]

Awww, Felicity. I never had an AG doll ("But, mom, it's only $100! No, I don't want to pay for that myself!"), but I loved looking through the magazines. And Felicity was my favorite because of her dresses. D:

In order to not repeat yesterday's brain explosion, I'm going with option one. It can't be a coincidence.

[chulacabra.livejournal.com]

Why does Stephenie Meyer hate Jacob? Because that's the only explanation for this shit. And he's potentially such a great character! Funny and snarky and cool to hang out with when he's not being alpha wolf/pining for Bella. Is it some kind of latent racism? Because I've never seen character assassination on this level before.

[ceebeegee.livejournal.com]

I *love* Jacob. He is very real, unlike Edward--I lvoe Edward too but Jacob is just such a boy. Cocky, a jerk sometimes, wants to be the doer. He needs to get some.

[vampychick.livejournal.com]

First Samantha, now Felicity? Why do they keep getting rid of the awesome dolls?

[quorothorn.livejournal.com]

Apparently, because they are fools. Foolish fools: the worst kind. >_

[incogra.livejournal.com]

Yeah, Claire/Quil's gotta be a coincidence--HAS to be--but still: so, so strange. Maybe Smeyer's writing has just gotten so bizarre that it's attracting extra, random weirdness, like passing comets getting caught in a planet's gravitational field.

It's too bad that POTC 4 will inevitably suck, because McShane was born to play Blackbeard.

[bumblebee-1983.livejournal.com]

The new Apple stuff has me fascinated, but Steve Jobs, you LIE!! iTunes 10 is NOT available for immediate download. GRRR.

[kerri]

I get that other people are really upset and i respect it, but..yeah, not particularly stressed out on my own behalf, here :P I'll be surprised if LJ doesn't change it, though, because they have a *lot* of people upset about this.

(I hadn't realised how many people go 'tab-enter' to post comments, though. I wonder how many of them are on laptops? I never use this method to comment.)

[eleigh.livejournal.com]

I never use that method to comment and I use a laptop. I never even considered that people use that method. I actually just tried to tab to post comment and it didn't work. It kicked me up to the beginning of the page.

[gorgeousnerd]

My thoughts in regards to the latest LJ events are:

a) It's yet another example in a long line of decisions that don't have much regard for the people who use the site regularly, so a lot of the outrage was carried over from earlier events.

b) While it's always been possible to screw people over, they just made it easier to do.

And/or c) Many people are on here in a fandom capacity, and they're very, very concerned with keeping their fandom identities separate from the real-life identities they adopt on Facebook. (I've never quite been in this situation, but considering how users reacted when Supernatural discussed fandom openly, it seems to be a relatively common sentiment.)

[fiveforsilver]

While it's always been possible to screw people over, they just made it easier to do

Yeah, this is my issue with it. Of course anyone on my flist who wanted to could copy and paste my locked posts or their locked comments or whatever. But there is a world of difference between select text, copy text, open the other website, (log in,) paste text, go back to LJ, copy link, (squish link on tinyurl,) paste link, and post it...and "click checkbox".

[crumpeteer.livejournal.com]

NOOOOOOOO! Not Felicity! She was my girl!

[kevin (from livejournal.com)]

I am one of those people who would have liked to comment once or twice, but didn't go to length to do so, because I had no other use for an LJ account. Not that I would have had anything of particular importance to say anyway. But, I've been reading your LJ for some time and it is nice to be able to comment via an account I already have.

[cleolinda.livejournal.com]

Oh, good! This is why I thought #1 would be useful, at least.

[nb2000.livejournal.com]

"Except, wait--did I ever mention that I suddenly realized, like, a year and a half after reading Breaking Dawn, why the whole wedding night fade-to-black sex scene starts out in the "warm, tropical waters"?"

I think you mentioned it in the Made of Fail where you played Horrify the Twilight noob. I distinctly remember my brain melting after you mentioned it because it hadn't occured to me that that's what he might be doing.

[profbutters.livejournal.com]

OMG what is up with that picture of Lupin? Why is Ginny there? Why does he have blood on his hands and why is he waving a wand in Harry's face? What?

Yes, I read the book. What, are they going to make him act even worse than he does in the book?

I am cry with tears.

[hulamoth.livejournal.com]

OMG what is up with that picture of Lupin? Why is Ginny there?
I KNOW, RIGHT? HER PRESENCE IS SOMEWHAT EXTREMELY ALARMING TO ME
I made the mistake of rereading the book after I saw the movie trailer, and for the first time for any movie I'm actually going to remember enough to tell where they deviated and IT'S TEARING ME APART

[ahirutwin.livejournal.com]

I can't... what... the... how... she... I CANNOT BELIEVE THIS. You know what, I'm willing to bet money on the fact that Stephenie Meyer had no idea about the Quil thing or even maybe the Nahuel because...

... Actually, as I was typing this I remembered that she said that from the beginning of her writing Twilight she had planned Nessie. So, potentially, that means she also crafted a whole damn story for her at the same time. That may be why she decided to make Jacob a bigger part of the series, she developed him specifically for her. This is... Oh God... I really cannot handle this. This is so fucked up! This is basically an internationally famous pedophile fanfic OF FANFIC. I can't.

[ahirutwin.livejournal.com]

(Also, this is completely off all topics, but I've been meaning to tell you this for about a month. I saw Richard Marx in concert on August 15th and he was awwwwesome. I thought a fellow fan would like to know, ha ha.)

[crumpeteer.livejournal.com]

I've also come to the conclusion that SMeyer is so inept that occassionally she's actually adept out of sheer luck.

[seamonkey-mags.livejournal.com]

A thousand monkeys...

[maetang.livejournal.com]

As some people have been pointing out in comments on news, this may have implications about the use of user generated content. LJ's policy is:

"LiveJournal claims no ownership or control over any Content posted by its users. The author retains all patent, trademark, and copyright to all Content posted within available fields, and is responsible for protecting those rights, but is not entitled to the help of the LiveJournal staff in protecting such Content." (From LJ's TOS (http://www.livejournal.com/legal/tos.bml), XIV, 3.)

This is different from Facebook's policy:

"You own all of the content and information you post on Facebook, and you can control how it is shared through your privacy and application settings. In addition:
"1.For content that is covered by intellectual property rights, like photos and videos ("IP content"), you specifically give us the following permission, subject to your privacy and application settings: you grant us a non-exclusive, transferable, sub-licensable, royalty-free, worldwide license to use any IP content that you post on or in connection with Facebook ("IP License"). This IP License ends when you delete your IP content or your account unless your content has been shared with others, and they have not deleted it."

So what if someone crossposts to Facebook a comment they make to a journal entry of mine, and in which they quote my content in the comment? Now Facebook has license to use that content - license which I haven't given Facebook! And I can't even opt out of that by deleting the IP content or my Facebook account (which I might not have!), because it's posted by another Facebook user, so it's on their Facebook account.

Sure, people can always copy-paste stuff between LJ and Facebook anyway. However, if they want to, then they have to think about doing manually. If there's a crosspost button in my own journal, and they can do it just by commenting there, that makes it easy for them. And also easy to accidentally do.

I don't think any of my Friends here are would deliberately crosspost my comments or content elsewhere for instance, but the position of the TwitBook checkboxes is really lousy, because for people who tab between boxes and buttons when they are posting or commenting, it's easy to accidentally, out of habit, select the crossposting checkboxes which are located right before the option to "Post".

And then what about anything I post in a community? What if someone I don't know crossposts a comment in reply to something I've written there?

"Good luck with your job application to Sterling Cooper Draper Pryce advertising company! I agree with you though, the manager there is a total dickhead."

"I hope that one day you escape your abusive partner."

"I found it really hard to come out to my family and coworkers."

"I hope your STD test results come back negative."

"I loved your hot Edward/Jacob fic!"

0_o

Again, sure, there is nothing stopping people manually crossposting stuff between LJ and Facebook. But if they have to do the copy-pasta by hand, that requires a bit more thought. And also, in that kind of copy-pasta, less information is automatically revealed. When other LJ users have done tests, the OP's journal name is revealed, and the commenters LJ icon, comment, and a link to the comment is revealed. All automatically. More info here (http://dysonrules.livejournal.com/200879.html).

I get that some people may like the features, but I don't want it forced on me, or associated with my journal and my content.

[hulamoth.livejournal.com]

oh my GOD
this is terrifying

the sole reason that livejournal has been my home for the past 10 years has been because it's separate from my real life

[glass-radical.livejournal.com]

STOP DISCONTINUING MY CHILDHOOD, AMERICAN GIRL PEOPLE.

[diddakoi.livejournal.com]

FOR REAL

THERE WERE ORIGINALLY FIVE, NOW THERE ARE ONLY TWO

And why does it seem like all of the new dolls are from the recent past? Are our children no longer capable of comprehending a life before electricity and cars?