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Hmm. I got into a discussion with someone yesterday--since I had been whining about being alone, sooooo alooooone--about what girls do, in fact, look for in a guy. So I sat down rather than do any real work and thought about it--I think it's actually important to sit down and hash out what you want in a partner, male or female, with yourself (because it's a very personal thing), so that you know what you're looking for. And I'd be interested to see how y'all's tastes differ, so: discuss. Do it on your own journal as a meme if you want, even.

Sense of humor: I think this is actually one of the least helpful things to put on a dating application, because no one is ever going to say, "I would actually prefer to go out with some humorless bastard." We all want someone with "a sense of humor." The only problem is, there are many kinds of humor, and we all find different things funny. So what we're really saying is, "I want someone who laughs at the same things I do." And y'all know my sense of humor--I guess it ranges from pretty dry to completely silly, but I tend to be turned off by anything really mean (certainly, anything that's meaner than it is funny) and anything really gross. And while I have been known to make some really dirty jokes, I tend to go for subtlety--there's a spit-or-swallow joke in "Titanic in Fifteen Minutes" that I'm not sure whether people got, since I wasn't able to get immediate feedback like with the online parodies. And there's actually a line in "Twilight in Fifteen Minutes" that I'm surprised didn't send people screaming (well, it did with a couple of people who caught it). But if you like gross-out comedies to the exclusion of everything else... you and I are probably not going to get along very well.

That said? I'm not looking for someone to make me laugh. That actually kind of bothers me, when people at parties kind of flop around like asphyxiating fish, desperate to get people to laugh at their jokes. I actually laugh in response to pretty much everything--it's my default reaction, whether I'm genuinely amused or kind of horrified or completely shocked (which gets me in trouble sometimes). I'd rather be laughing because I'm having a good time with you than because you tried to put on a show for me. I don't need you to "impress" me--and maybe I've gotten that from people (in online contexts) because I write the Fifteen Minutes things and people think that's what I want? I don't, really. I just want you to be yourself and have fun.

Interests: Actually, you know what? I don't want someone to have the exact same interests as me. I mean, it will help a lot if you love movies and/or books. But I want someone who respects my interests and has at least a few in common with me and can say, "I don't really get why you like stupidcrackpop music, but I love that you get so into it," even as I'd really like someone to have interests that I don't have... yet. I'd like someone who could either teach me new things or who I could learn new things with--I'd really like someone who could teach me to play the guitar, for example.

That said, I don't want someone to shove some new interest down my throat. If I'm not interested in your favorite comic or video game, that's okay, you know? I'm more than happy for you to have something you can go off and do, even with other people, while sometimes I have separate things I go off and do.

Intelligence: Speaking of learning--you know, I almost forgot to mention this at all, because it so went without saying to me. I'm not even talking about book smarts, necessarily--God knows there are tons of gaps in my accumulated knowledge. And I can hardly math at all. But that's actually how I'd differentiate intelligence from education: education is the result of learning, while intelligence is the ability and the desire to keep learning. I mean, I'd hope.

(Reading is sexy, though.)

Kindness: I've been through the Why Girls Like Jerks thing before, the upside of which is, "A nice guy [is] already nice to everyone. How do you know that you're special if he treats everyone else with as much kindness and respect as he treats you?" (Keep in mind that I followed this up with, "Sure, your jerk of choice may start out giving you the special treatment, but as the novelty of the relationship wears off, he's going to do exactly what the nice guy does: he's going to treat you just like he treats everyone else.") So while I have no patience with the Toxic Nice Guy, I am all about actual nice guys. And I tend to look for evidence of this in the way that guys--people, really--treat animals, children, and waitresses. (I know, weird. But good rule of thumb.) And I find that this extends to manners as well--I want to say Miss Manners once said something along the lines of, "Manners are the art of making people feel at ease," rather than being strictly about which fork you use when. You know... being nice. Or kind, if that sounds less sappy.

Ambition: You know what? I actually prefer less ambition. I'm not terribly interested in outright slackers (I'm not doing the best job of being an independent adult myself, though, so this is probably a bit hypocritical), but I do want someone who at least wants something out of life. I want someone who has something he wants to do, and he wants to be the best that he can be at it. What I'm not interested in, though, is someone with a huge Type A personality who's got to be better than you and me and everyone else and make all the moneys and win all the pissing contests and keel over at age of forty from a massive coronary. I'm actually very ambitious in my own way, but it tends to be on a creative level. Or maybe a less tangible level, rather. I want to be a good writer and a well-regarded writer, and I want enough money to be comfortable, but I'm not so much about SOMEDAY I WILL SELL MORE BOOKS THAN YOUUUUUU. So I want someone who aspires to something, who is self-motivated, but isn't driven to make you eat his dust. I don't know--I just find that really stressful and not worth it.

(And you know, there are a lot of people who are turned on by driven, powerful types. I'm just not one of them.)

Mellow...osity: So... yeah. Being mellow is pretty important to me. There's a difference between "being mellow" and "not caring," obviously. I'm kind of weird, I guess--I can get really high-strung about some things and I deal with huge amounts of anxiety (which is probably why I'd be more interested in someone calmer than me). At the same time, as much as I enjoy flailing and capslocking over entertainment for fun, I really feel like I'm pretty laidback about a lot of things. Those of y'all who have been here a while--am I just completely deluded here? Well, either I'm correct about myself and I want someone who's also laidback, or I'm delusional and I want someone who's more laidback than me. It probably comes out the same in the wash.

Confidence: I think this goes with the mellowosity. I find arrogance to be a huge turnoff, and yet... I like it when a guy is just very casually comfortable with himself. "Confidence" may be too strong a word for it, I don't know. I do think it's something that separates the nice guys from the Nice Guys, though.

Smile: You know, they say that the eyes are the windows to the soul and all that, but I tend to look more at the way someone smiles. Which, of course, also involves the eyes. Really, it involves the whole face. Oddly, though, it's not about someone's teeth for me (as opposed to my mother, who has a major thing for perfect, straight white teeth. She really likes Tom Cruise's teeth, and was a little discomfited when I pointed out that his teeth are crooked in a way that actually makes him look like he has one big middle tooth). Basically, I look for a smile that lights up someone's entire face. It's hard to explain--you know it when you see it, and it can't be faked (a fake smile doesn't go all the way up into someone's eyes). And you (or I, rather) want someone who smiles (and laughs) easily and often. So I'm way more into a great smile than I am the whole Blue Steel sexyglare.

Irrational Physical Attractions: Everyone has them--some random thing that just does it for them. Me? Forearms. I don't know why. (Also hands. Which are attached to the forearms. Obviously.) A guy with his sleeves rolled up is just... ffffrowrr. And yet, I am almost completely uninterested in guys' arms above the elbow. It's all about the forearms. I don't know.

Oh, and floppy hair. I have always had a thing for floppy, shaggy hair, although it has to be short enough in the back that it does not flop into mullet territory. Mullets are Not Okay. And while short hair doesn't do much for me, long hair doesn't really get me all that much either, although the most beautiful boy I ever knew had what I must call, with no exaggeration whatsoever, Legolas Hair.

Of course, here's the thing that can invalidate anything on this--or anyone else's--list: the spark. The irrational, crazy-making connective spark that you just feel for someone. And when you feel that, pretty much nothing else matters. You don't like that color hair? Well, on them you do. Didn't think you'd ever date someone shorter, taller, older, younger, heavier, thinner? Doesn't matter. Whatever that strange leaping thing in your stomach is, you feel it, and nothing else matters. And yeah, eventually the craziness fades away and you're left with a more rational, mundane connection. I mean, you hope. But the spark did its job in pulling the two of you together. So I'm just saying, you know, don't write your list in stone or anything.

So that's my teal deer for the day. And notice that at no point did I say I wanted rock-hard abs or lots of money or even worldly sophistication. One of the reasons I'm interested to see what y'all want in prospective partners (of either sex) is that I think people are going to be surprised by what other people actually find attractive.


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Date: 2008-12-10 09:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] visceralvamp.livejournal.com
Forearems are so hot. It's true.

Hugh Laurie has great forearms, as seen in whatever episode of House in which he dissects a cat.

Date: 2008-12-10 10:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fangulation.livejournal.com
Wentworth Miller does as well, and he's been running around this last season with his sleeves rolled up.

Uhn...

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Date: 2008-12-10 09:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thecenterlane.livejournal.com
Attraction is such a funny thing, you know? For example, as a rule, I generally like older men. I find the salt and pepper thing to be extremely attractive (think Jon Stewart's current hair), not to mention I just like their personalities better, but I met my soon to be husband in high school.

A friend of mine told me that she would be a lesbian (she prefers female genitalia) except for the part where she fell in love with a guy.

I mean, its as you said. You can list what you find attractive or ideal, but in the end its about the connection you make.

Date: 2008-12-10 09:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] callmesyd.livejournal.com
A friend of mine told me that she would be a lesbian (she prefers female genitalia) except for the part where she fell in love with a guy.

Oh thank god I was afraid it was just me.

With very few individual exceptions, I'm WAY more attracted to women - but I've been with a guy for ohjesusgodalmosttenyearsnowwhatthehell and he's amazing.

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Date: 2008-12-10 09:32 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] killua
As for personality traits, I think you actually named all the ones I like in well...people in general. I'm not quite interested in relationships past friendship, but if I'm going to really get along with someone, those points you listed off are all on my list. Especially the kindness, the intelligence, and what you said about manners. <3

Physical traits... I really like short hair. But not spiky hair, or gelled hair. I don't even know what it's called, but short layered hair with bangs make me sldkhg all over the place. ...And I love talented hands. Hands that can draw, that can play instruments, etc. Preferably, long fingers. AHHHH.

Date: 2008-12-10 11:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] robinmc.livejournal.com
And I love talented hands. Hands that can draw, that can play instruments, etc. Preferably, long fingers. AHHHH.

I remember I went out with a guy in high school, and he played his guitar for me, which would have been cool, except I took one look at his hands, and they just...he had really short, stubby, hairy-looking fingers, and it completely turned me off. My best friend found that hilarious. We always referred to him as "Gorilla Hands" after that.

So yes, long fingers = hot.

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Date: 2008-12-10 09:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dhaunea.livejournal.com
What I look for in someone I want to be close to is a sense of humor similar to my own. That is, possessing a good sense of the ridiculous, an appreciation of really bad movies and the occasional touch of black humor atop it all.

... and they must be able to enjoy puns without going on about them incessantly. Terry Prachett appreciation is a plus.

I need someone with an open mind when it comes to things like entertainment and reading matter. Horror, Sci Fi, Fantasy, Adventure and the occasionally dippy chick flick. No dramas, war movies or depressing documentaries. (While I like all of those in moderation, I like to get it out there that, no, if you prefer to watch nothing but war movies and sporting events, we're not going to mesh well.)

Tolerance is a huge one. Racial, ethnic or sexual slurs get a huge 'VOID' stamp. Toilet humor is another thing that results in 'DO NOT WANT'.

I like to hang out at home, order in and watch movies or play video games. I like to eat out too, but someone who wants to go out every night... is not going to find a soulmate in me.

I can't be around smokers for health reasons and someone who gets drunk on a regular basis is also a no-go.

It almost gets easier to list what I won't stand for than the things I'm looking for specifically.

Mostly, what I'm looking for is someone who wants a relationship with a lot of give and take. I want someone who enjoys the things that I do, or is willing to at least give them a try, and if I don't know about the things they like is patient enough to teach me.

And I'm perfectly happy to curl up with a book while they play sports video games or shoot hoops with our friends - but I like to be included or at least asked if I want to participate in their activities.

It should be 'our' friends, too. Not 'your friends' and 'my friends' but 'our friends'. It's not always possible, but it's optimal!

Edit: I was married to a man but am currently happily seeing another woman, so my list of 'physical traits I find hot' is a bit... amusing. I find height and someone who is physically fit to be a total turn-on, apparently. Who knew? Mostly, I go for smiles. If someone has a killer smile I just sort of melt at the knees.
Edited Date: 2008-12-10 09:37 pm (UTC)

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Date: 2008-12-10 09:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aoi-tsuki1.livejournal.com
Shoulders. The first time I played Chrono Cross and the teenage hero was all nekkid for a sec and his shoulders were painfully exquisite, my sister and I were all "UNF" even though we had no prior or specific knowledge as to what "UNF" entailed. The "UNF" lives in all our hearts, one way or another. It merely emerged at teenage well-defined and shiny goodness.

That said, my boy's got a hairy back and shoulders. They embarrass the hell out of him, which I usually remedy via chewing. (Not, y'know, the hair off. Ew. Just chewing. It helps pretty much everything, unless I hit a tickly spot near his neck.)

You know what else is hot? Guys who kind of interrupt you, or incidentally step on what you started to say and keep going, but then say, "What were you saying?" in a considerate and uncondescending manner. I want to do one of my friends every time he says this--in the same sense that I'd like a round or two with teenage young Serge, but neither male is listed in my mental Column of Eligibility for Non-Pretend Sexing: one for being a good buddy with a gf of his own and me in a happy relationship, and one for being imaginary.

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Date: 2008-12-10 10:43 pm (UTC)
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Oh my God, your icon just made me spit coffee onto my screen. I can haz icon?

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Date: 2008-12-10 09:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yesaffirmative.livejournal.com
In men, I've always been drawn to:

Confidence
sarcastic sense of humor
being as loud and talkative as me
ambition
intelligence
creativity
reasonably fit body
mostly hairless chest and back
facial hair (yes, despite the hairless body thing)
tall
dark hair (blondes and redheads pretty much not need apply)
feminist
the ability to be sort of a lovable asshole, but with the emphasis on lovable It's worth noting that this is probably the biggest predictor of initial attraction, that and the dark hair thing

In women, I've always been drawn to: Well, honestly, pretty much all the same qualities...sans the facial hair. The only women-specific things really are--
*A personal style that falls somewhere in between butch and femme. Femmy butches and butchy femmes are sexy!
*I am attracted to a wider swath of body types in women. I frequently find myself attracted to women who, if they were a man, would be too heavy for me.

Date: 2008-12-10 09:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] seamonkey-mags.livejournal.com
Aw, I'm opposite for women's body types. I feel like a horrible douche but I have a lower threshold for body size there than on men. Possibly because I think men are sort of weird looking in general anyway? I don't know. But I feel bad about it!

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Date: 2008-12-10 09:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] seamonkey-mags.livejournal.com
Yes, forearms are good stuff. Unless they're all veiny, in which case I get a little weirded out by them.

Mostly in a dude I want someone who thinks my bizarreness is funny, who is an atheist, is interesting to talk to, who enjoys doing things with me, and turns me on. I know I am very lucky that I stumbled upon a guy who does a pretty good job of covering those bases (mostly; he's not much of a talker).

Date: 2008-12-10 09:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] seamonkey-mags.livejournal.com
I also like women, but have never managed to date any, which is odd because I also get along better with women anyway.

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Date: 2008-12-10 09:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] oddnari.livejournal.com
But no one mentioned the sparkle!!!11

Date: 2008-12-10 10:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mustang-bex1126.livejournal.com
I just snorted... oh jeeze, thank god I wasn't drinking anything!

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Date: 2008-12-10 09:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dramedy.livejournal.com
I want someone who can hold a conversation with me with out being condescending, someone who can appreciate my love for all things nerdy, and will not mind if I yell, occasionally at the TV or computer screen. I want someone who will, in al honesty, like me for my quirks.

I want them to find me attractive. I find a lot of people attractive, but rarely is anyone, "Hey you're pretty."

Also, forearms are amazing as faras men go... but for me it's a woman's butt. something is so beautiful about a perfectly rounded rear.

Date: 2008-12-10 09:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] punzerel.livejournal.com
I think those personality traits you mentioned are ones I can pretty much agree with. Someone who's (at least a little) confident without being arrogant (raging insecurity is, IMO, the key to a LOT of negative traits), someone who has goals and has a spine and can motivate themselves (not someone who'll lie down and let the world crush them, but not someone who wants to be a millionaire by 30, either), someone who can laugh with me and talk with me and be intelligent and be silly, someone who is caring (and who I can imagine as a dad). Someone who will let me get angry about the world knowing I don't really mean it; someone who can at least a little bit share my optimism.
Physically, I am all about the dark-haired guys. (Whenever I'm occasionally attracted to fairer/blond guys, it tends to fade more quickly.) I also don't like guys who are either very thin or very beefy. Height doesn't matter; I know a lot of girls are anti-short guys but... I'm a short girl, why would I demand someone a foot taller than me?

Get out of my brain!

Date: 2008-12-10 09:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mollywobbles867.livejournal.com
Seriously, this is exactly what I like, except I think I weigh eyes and smile equally. Everything was pretty generically agreeable with me, but then we verged into "are you a practitioner of Occlumency?" territory when you mentioned forearms and shaggy, floppy hair.

I was going to do this on my own journal, and I may still, but I think it'd be easier to just link here with the title: "This is What I want in a Guy: by my long lost twin."

Seriously, I'm even not doing so great at the independent adult thing. At all.

Edited Date: 2008-12-10 09:55 pm (UTC)

Date: 2008-12-10 09:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jime22.livejournal.com
I met a guy a few months ago and oddly enough he has a “check” next to pretty much every item on my list (which may or may not be laminated and hidden in a secret box in the back of my closet….j/k….kind of): He is a good person, he is, gasp, single (I know this goes without saying but I am a magnet for married/engaged/in an unhappy relationship but unwilling to end it, guys) and he wants to start something…something that involves plans and vacations together and a future and all that jazz. He laughs and his eyes sparkle, he has great hands (I love hands), he has a good job and a plan for his career, an actual down to earth kind of plan, he has his own place, and on top of that plays the guitar and is willing to teach me (yes, I wanted that too). All in all he is perfect…..but not for me, because like you said there is no “spark”, nothing, nada, zilch. I continued to date him thinking that would come later and it did, but just for him...which is why I ended it this weekend :( Reading this journal made me feel a bit better though, when I told the rest of my almost-thirty-and single- friends about my decision they looked at me skeptical and I absolutely loaded the underline of that look, the one that said “Don’t let this one go, you never know if you will have another chance like this” but being the stubborn girl that I am, I cannot for the life of me give up on my spark, damn it.

Date: 2008-12-10 09:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] punzerel.livejournal.com
Ahhhh, don't listen to your friends! Don't give up on the spark.

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Date: 2008-12-10 09:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] snowwhite2421.livejournal.com
OMG ILU I have tried to explain to people for YEARS what it is that I hate so much about Tom Cruise's teeth. I can't look at him when he's talking because all the sound fades away and I am transfixed by his off-center teeth...

I figured out what I wanted by a lengthy (and sometimes ugly) process of elimination.

My short list of must-haves:
CONFIDENCE - NOT COCKINESS, but confidence. He must not require validation from me or anyone else, but still be humble enough to know how to take a compliment, as well as not be a total ass.
INTELLIGENCE - I want to learn stuff from him. I also want him to be inquisitive enough about life that I can teach him stuff, too.
RESPONSIBILITY - sounds dumb, but I don't want to have to remind someone to pay bills and such. Can't always win on that front, but it still matters to me.
MUST BE WEIRD - by conventional standards. I just don't get normal people. Maybe "Quirky" was the word I wanted. I don't know.
MUST HAVE HIS OWN LIFE - I want him to be secure enough to be okay with that. Sometimes I just want to read a book and be alone. Doesn't mean I love you less, it just means I want to be alone.

I also think it is VV Important that you agree on 3 fundamental issues: Marriage, Children, and Pets. You don't have to have the SAME opinion, but they must mesh.

Me, I ended up with a sideshow freak (not a term of endearment, he has a real job too but he does shows periodically) who came with an extensive library of books I'd never read but really wanted to; no interest in marriage, children, or dogs/cats; the ability to pay rent/car payments without angering the credit bureau; and no qualms about sitting his butt down to play warcraft or go for a bike ride if I feel like doing something without him.

We're still completely retarded for each other 4 years in. I suppose it's a good sign...?

Date: 2008-12-10 10:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thisiamdenied.livejournal.com
We're still completely retarded for each other 4 years in. I suppose it's a good sign...?

♥ that.

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Date: 2008-12-10 09:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bluesteelstars.livejournal.com
Forearms. I don't know why. (Also hands. Which are attached to the forearms. Obviously.)

Yes, forearms, yes! Hands, yes, hands! A scene comes to mind of Brendan Fraser's arms in The Mummy...mmmm

I have to add for me that if he can compliment my friends without being a total douche that makes me feel like the bridesmaid with his ogling.

Now I'm going to have to think of filling out your meme.
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Date: 2008-12-10 09:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cashewdani.livejournal.com
"A nice guy [is] already nice to everyone. How do you know that you're special if he treats everyone else with as much kindness and respect as he treats you?"

You have summed it up perfectly. I will be reading this line verbatim to my mother as an attempt to finally explain the situation that in the past I could never capture with wrods.

Date: 2008-12-10 09:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] acaciakitty.livejournal.com
I am so with you on the forearms thing! When I first met my now husband, I noticed his tendency to roll his sleeves up and it drove me absolutely wild. The shape of the muscles underneath... Sometimes I like to just watch him do things because I love to watch his arms and hands move. *melts* Aw, now I'm gonna have to tackle him when he gets home.

Also, glasses really do it for me. When he and I first started dating, he made a disparaging remark about his glasses and how they must annoy me and I was all husky voiced and was like "no... visual impairment is sexy".

(I'm feeling very parenthetical today.)

Date: 2008-12-10 10:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bella-stella78.livejournal.com
I actually laugh in response to pretty much everything--it's my default reaction.

I am the same way. I even laugh when people are yelling at me. It's my defense mechanism, I guess, and one that did nothing to endear me to the Sisters of Immaculate Conception who taught me in K-8.

One of your best posts, Cleolinda. I might do this as a meme in my own blog.

**Edited to include what attracts me to a man (and you're going to think I'm weird) - his personal scent. I have a really sensitive sense of smell, and I remember dating this one really (but I mean really ) cute guy in high school who smelled like this strange combination of oranges and wood shavings. I have no idea, all I know is it turned me off completely. My current boyf smells like this irresistible combination of musk and vanilla, oh and-and sunshine, too, just like Edward (OK, kidding on the last part!).
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Re: (I'm feeling very parenthetical today.)

Date: 2008-12-11 01:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moogleybacon.livejournal.com
"his personal scent"

heee, you're not alone in this. I have a sensitive sense of smell, too, so I'm in the same boat as you there. (Also: Oranges and wood shavings? Ew. Though, I do like the smell of wood shavings--I don't know--but oranges are just completely nasty to me.)

Date: 2008-12-10 10:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] naodrith.livejournal.com
Wow, I think you said pretty much everything I would say. :P In addition I really want someone I can be comfortable with, someone who can really be a great friend in addition to a romantic partner. This is probably because I'm pretty weird and I find it difficult to open up to people lest they flee, flee in terror, so. It's important to me to be with someone who gets me.

Floppy hair is my physical trait, definitely.

As for the sense of humour thing, I was actually thinking earlier that maybe I will start introducing myself to men as "Hi, I'm Caitlin, but some call me Tim." And if they laugh, I'll keep an eye on them. ;)

Date: 2008-12-11 01:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bindabites.livejournal.com
monty python and the holy grail reference?

Date: 2008-12-10 10:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] diddakoi.livejournal.com
I have thoughts upon this, which I will share later. But first I wanted to say: I gave my $7 to the Twilight-monster today. And actually? It was pretty good. I mean, we had fun laughing at it (benefit of a 2 pm showing -- empty theater) but it was far, far better than it could have been. It was largely due to the actors, but I think the directing had a lot to do with it. Which means Hardwicke's firing is good news for the lolfans, because we're guaranteed an absolute dog of a film next time.

And the Normal Teens? (or at least the guys) Were enormous dorks. I kind of understood why Bella didn't like them. But I also remember guys from my high school that acted just like that.

Date: 2008-12-10 10:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] diddakoi.livejournal.com
Also? The sparkle effect just made him look furry.

And whoever it was who termed Eric the 'gaysian' -- you, maybe? was totally right.

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and because they are totally separate thoughts

Date: 2008-12-10 10:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] snowwhite2421.livejournal.com
I wanted to separate the posts...

my friend and I just talked about this over the weekend - the difference between the "type" you look for, and the "type" you actually date (or, in some cases, end up with).

EG: I am supermechaultimo attracted to tall guys (6'5"ish) with black/dark hair and green/blue/grey eyes, good skin (I don't care what color as long as it is clean), and a menacing bad-boy danger about them.

my bf, on the other hand, is about 5'10" with blonde hair and green eyes, riddled with scars (okay, scars are way sexy), and projects a very happy-go-lucky demeanor. Granted, he'd disembowel you with a spork and laugh the whole time if he thought you deserved it, but he doesn't PROJECT that.

So yeah. What you want vs. what you get/what actually makes you happy...
From: [identity profile] cleolinda.livejournal.com
Yeah--I think I said on some other occasion that I am very attracted to the brooding type in fiction. You know, your Mr. Rochester/Mr. Darcy types, to the point where I can even kind of understand the Edward Cullen thing. But in real life? I would want to slap them all day long. But I know that, you know? So when I wrote out the entry, I tried to focus on things I would want in a person I could actually live with, rather than just watch in a movie and go home and think about being hot.

Date: 2008-12-10 10:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] krazycat.livejournal.com
Completely OT, but do you like nine inch nails at all? If so, this made me laugh so hard I got tears in my eyes. (http://badgods.com/nineinchnoels.html)

Date: 2008-12-10 10:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cleolinda.livejournal.com
Hee, I'll have to listen to it later.

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Date: 2008-12-10 10:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] angelan.livejournal.com
I have a completely irrational thing for long hair. I blame overconsumption of manga in my impressionable years.

Date: 2008-12-10 10:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] artimusdin.livejournal.com
You're not alone in that. And I don't even have manga to blame, as I didn't start reading that until my mid-20s.

Date: 2008-12-10 10:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] artimusdin.livejournal.com
Sense of Humor: I'm with you on that, I think. =)
Interests: As long as we have enough in common to have.. well, common ground, I'm happy. If nothing else, the differences will ensure we are constantly learning something new about/from each other. Hopefully.
Intelligence: Meh, you said it best. So long as they're willing to learn something new, it's all good. Stagnation = bad.
Ambition: Don't want someone too ambitious. Some is very good to have, but like most things in life too much or little of something can be bad.
mellowness:Being laid back is much preferable than being uptight, but not so laid back that they can't make any decisions.
Confidence: Because I'm a rather.. forceful person at times, I'm afraid I have a grand total of one (kinda needed) test for a guy: Will he get the gumption up to ask me out. If he can get that far, I'll go that extra mile to see if it'll work. So far, I've had all of... one guy do that. One other has gotten close, while a third was set up on a blind date with me by a friend of mine.
Smile: Oh hells yeah. Totally with you there. The whole-face smile. Even better when it's a whole-body smile.
Irrational physical attractions: Long, well-kept hair. Shoulder length or butt length, it doesn't matter so long as it's well kept. *purrs*
That and being physically active. Not necessarily being trim and cut, though that's nice eye candy, but evidence that yeah, they work hard at something and aren't afraid to get dirty. They can have a bit of a gut and I could give a rats ass so long as they've got some muscle under that. Needless to say between those two things, I've been purring quite a bit when I started going to our SCA fighting workouts. Both of those traits in the same spot! Heaven! Now, if only they were available....

Date: 2008-12-10 10:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gfrancie.livejournal.com
In the end what everyone wants is someone that will accept them and all their flaws. Someone you can be vulnerable with and someone who feels the same. Kindness, compassion and a sense of humor. That is what is needed. Everything else is a bonus.

Date: 2008-12-13 01:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] topazera.livejournal.com
Agreed. I think you summed it up nicely. :)

Date: 2008-12-10 10:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] quizzicalsphinx.livejournal.com
I am only a year and a few wee days older than you, and lemme tell you: that ambition thing? Creeps higher and higher up on the list as the years go on. In its way, ambition is the only thing that will keep the rest of the items on the list from stagnating and become tedious over the years. Yes. Even the smile.

Date: 2008-12-10 10:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cleolinda.livejournal.com
Ambition yes or ambition no?

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