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Aaaaand the ff.net plagiarizer (who was claiming that her cousin * wrote "Phantom of the Opera in Fifteen Minutes" and gave her "permission" to cannibalize it) has deleted the post. Or ff.net did. Someone. Normally I just drop people a line once in a blue moon and go, "Hey, could you take this down, it's mine," and they comply--I try to take a "Forget it, Jake, it's the internet" view of it most of the time--but there's so much attitude here that it was actually kind of pissing me off:
Now, in some of your reviews, there have been questions as to whether or not the cousins and the friends who leant me the script from THEIR parody are the creator of the 'POTO in 15 Minutes' parody. This is, in fact, true, and they have finally relented with their script and allowed me to post it on here. That is good for all of us. But I will admit that some of this I did not write, but have taken from their given script. However, because I do NOT want to be accused of plagiarism, I am adding a LOT more of my own jokes, including song parodies, which they did NOT do, as well as insulting continually annoying and stubborn POTO Purists of different sides, obsessive Phangirls, and a LOT more that I WON'T tell you about, because it will ruin the story for you. Also, I include much more dialogue then their '15 Min.' version. Okay? Good. Glad we got that all cleared up. Now, back to the story and our first song parody.


So I asked people to look into it (see previous entry). There was... kind of a small dogpile in the reviews. I mean, all the "reviews" I saw were civil, to the effect of "This isn't yours, you should take it down." No name-calling that I saw. And then it took a turn for the (extra) wanky after she took it down, but not before posting a crazy screed of some kind (now deleted?). Apparently it reads in part,
And on a sidenote, if there are anymore flames that still accuse me of being so unoriginal that I have to STEAL in order to post anything good, EVEN WHEN I have the permission of the original creators to use some of their work, your reviews WILL be erased/abused. Understood? Good. Now, I'm sorry that I have had to be like this --aka, such a bitch, as I am sure some of you are calling me right now for my little rant-- but I will NOT tolerate this. Besides, how many of you have ever been accused of taking whole passages out of a book for YOUR stories, hm? Even when it may only be coinsidences in your case, doesn't it just plain HURT?! SO WHY would you do that to me? Also, I know I may seem like I'm whiny right now, but this is a very serious issue for me.

So, for those of you who accused me, I would PLEASE ask for an apology. Or AT LEAST a sentence saying "Okay, I was a little out of bounds'. Any others that come in and try to flame me like that again, I will email you saying 'Please read the unbelievably long author's note at the top of the page for a proper explaination, otherwise go away and leave me alone, you accusatory squirrel-like person.' Is that understood? I really hope so.


So... that was weird. I actually suspect that her cousin may have lied to her, and that she was telling the truth as she knew it. The problem is, I wrote "Phantom of the Opera in Fifteen Minutes" in 2005, and I have hundreds of unalterable, date-stamped comments to prove it. So no matter how upset she gets or how hurt she feels, that fact isn't going to change, unfortunately.

Ironically, the whole thing is moot, because ff.net doesn't allow script format anyway.

* There is a tired "Cousins. Totally cousins" joke in here that I am too tired to make at the moment.


ETA: Here's the full rant (well, it did appear in public originally; it was never locked).


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Date: 2008-09-25 10:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] incogra.livejournal.com
I had to lol at "you accusatory squirrel-like person." My, my, someone thinks she's clever!

Date: 2008-09-25 10:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sessifet25.livejournal.com
Try reading it in John Cleese's French soldier accent. It's even funnier that way.

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Date: 2008-09-25 10:31 pm (UTC)
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Keira's stankface has never been more appropriate.

Date: 2008-09-25 10:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] particle-person.livejournal.com
There is a tired "Cousins. Totally cousins" joke in here that I am too tired to make at the moment.

It's okay, my brain made it for me.

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Date: 2008-09-25 10:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jharrison19.livejournal.com
when has taking someone else's jokes (even if their your cousins) and adding to them EVER been funny?

Date: 2008-09-25 10:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] firei.livejournal.com
lolz at the cousins joke. ;) hope it all gets cleared up!

Date: 2008-09-25 10:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] barrelgoddess.livejournal.com
Accusatory... squirrel-like person? XDDD LMAO!

Date: 2008-09-26 12:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] derangeddarling.livejournal.com
Ohhai--i love your icon. A lot. <3333 Pullo!

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Date: 2008-09-25 10:39 pm (UTC)
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Can the girl not use Google? Because seriously, after the first couple of comments mentioning m15m, I would have.

Date: 2008-09-26 12:15 am (UTC)
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Sorry to butt it, but ICON!<3 Is it share-able?

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Date: 2008-09-25 10:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cassildra.livejournal.com
Oh, my God.

No, seriously. How is that EVER appropriate?

If I hadn't have been sick today, I would have gone and politely given her the smack down. :(

Date: 2008-09-25 10:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lederhosen.livejournal.com
Besides, how many of you have ever been accused of taking whole passages out of a book for YOUR stories, hm? Even when it may only be coinsidences in your case, doesn't it just plain HURT?!

...how do you 'coincidentally' use an entire passage from somebody else's book?

Date: 2008-09-25 10:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meghatron.livejournal.com
Cassandra Claire.. Ahem.

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Date: 2008-09-25 10:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meghatron.livejournal.com
* There is a tired "Cousins. Totally cousins" joke in here that I am too tired to make at the moment.

I totally went there already.

Date: 2008-09-25 10:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] janetlin.livejournal.com
What's mind-boggling is how _right_ she thinks she is. Honest mistake it may be, if her cousin lied to her, but... but... how can she not see that it's still plagiarism?!

"Besides, how many of you have ever been accused of taking whole passages out of a book for YOUR stories, hm?"

Um, none of us, because we know better...

Date: 2008-09-25 10:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] callmesyd.livejournal.com
I've played GTA4 enough that all I can hear in my head is "Not now, cahsin, I'm beezee."

Or, as my fiancee just put in, "Cahsin, you ayshole!" and "Yes. My cahsin is full of sheet."

I need an icon of a squirrel now.

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Date: 2008-09-25 10:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] schmoo999.livejournal.com
Man I take my twins to swim lessons and look at what I missed! lol

Date: 2008-09-25 11:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moogleybacon.livejournal.com
Oh, plagiarism... is it sad that I've been around it enough to just find it laughable? I've never been accused of it myself, but a site I write at has been stolen from so many times that whenever something new pops up we all just go "oh... another one? really? lawlz"

It does sound, though, that she really thought she was legit in all this. In which case, it's hard--for me, at least--to fault her for being lied to by her cousins. :/


P.S: Watching The Day After Tomorrow right now, and it's at the part where everyone leaves the library, and all I can think is "Please! Don't go! My studliness begs you!" It makes me chuckle.

Date: 2008-09-25 11:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cleolinda.livejournal.com
Yeah, I think it's just the sheer defiance that surprised me, although if her cousin lied to her (which yeah, that's what it looks like), it's easier to understand where she's coming from. Except that if someone gave me a link and said, "Your cousin didn't write this, she did," and I believed my cousin wrote it, I'd be all over that link on my cousin's behalf. You know, assuming that the link contained the real plagiarism. At which point she would have seen the date. So... I don't know.

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Date: 2008-09-25 11:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] particle-person.livejournal.com
Okay, this is gonna be fun (http://news.livejournal.com/110103.html).
U.S. Presidential Election Community

With a historic U.S. election coming down to the wire, causing a lot of buzz in the U.S. and abroad, we thought it would be cool to create a community with a global view on the 2008 election. To that end, we've partnered with various news providers, including The Independent in the UK, Gazeta in Russia, and Mint in India, to allow their journalists to engage with the LiveJournal user community, asking questions and posting news stories for comments and discussion.

Oh LJ admins, you really do want to reap the whirlwind, don't you? Even better, in the profile for the comm, it says:
By posting content here, including in response to questions posed by community moderators and other community participants, you agree that LiveJournal and its partners and affiliates may republish your posts, in whole or in part, online at websites other than LiveJournal.com and in other media, including print publications, free of charge.

It's like a wank-generating MACHINE!

Date: 2008-09-25 11:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cleolinda.livejournal.com
Well, this is gonna end in tears.

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Date: 2008-09-25 11:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] robinmc.livejournal.com
It really does sound like an adolescent girl who thought she was being clever, and her gullibility got the best of her.

Either that of Kenley from "Project Runway" has a hobby.

Date: 2008-09-26 01:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] glass-radical.livejournal.com
OMG I CAN JUST HEAR HER VOIcE WHEN I READ THIS

Date: 2008-09-25 11:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cheapblackpens.livejournal.com
Awww, reviews will be abused! Just like Cleo's original work! How sweet!

Date: 2008-09-26 12:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] queenofattolia.livejournal.com
Is this person American? Because if she is, I hope to God she's not registered to vote.

I think you're giving her too much credit - I think she knew exactly what she was doing when she ripped you off, and is now incensed at being found out and called on it.

Date: 2008-09-26 12:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] r0ck3tsci3ntist.livejournal.com
This happens on ff.net ALL the time, always with the same, "wut? why you so mean to me?" rant.

There's also the possibility that this is a Twihard troll trying to get your goat. But yeah, I'm glad you got it taken down because your work is copyrighted material. Plus it's good and you deserve the credit.
From: [identity profile] dakiwiboid.livejournal.com
Serpent! or nothing. ;)

Damned plagiarists and their feeble attempts at wit. I'm so glad you prevailed. Sorry she and her cohorts tired you out.

Date: 2008-09-26 12:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amanuensis1.livejournal.com
*wets self laughing*

Date: 2008-09-26 12:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] madeline-may.livejournal.com
The link to the story doesn't work anymore, which, I would assume, means she's taken it down.

I almost feel bad...

Naw. I don't.

Date: 2008-09-26 12:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] foresthouse.livejournal.com
Did you send the letter before the baleetion, or was it moot because it was already gone?

On another note: man, what an ass. AN APOLOGY? Kiss my ass! I almost want to do a, "this is plagiarism, folks!" post on my journal, just for her, but I think I'm too tired. *rolls eyes*

Date: 2008-09-26 01:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cleolinda.livejournal.com
Hee! No, it ended up being moot by the time I got to it. Of course, I wouldn't put it past her to try again.

Date: 2008-09-26 01:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] auralan.livejournal.com
Is the cousin a nanny?

Date: 2008-09-26 01:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cleolinda.livejournal.com
You know, I was wondering.

Date: 2008-09-26 02:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misachan.livejournal.com
What is wrong with people? I got antsy when someone on my flist posted a fic with the same plot device I'm using in my own story because I was worried she might think I stole it. I don't know where the chutzpah comes from.
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