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I DO NOT LIKE THE ALICE

I DO NOT LIKE THE OUTFIT

ALTHOUGH IT IS NOT THE WORST ONE IN NEW MOON

THE ONE THAT LOOKED LIKE THE PAINTER'S SMOCK

IN VOLTERRA

MAYBE THE NEXT PROTOTYPE PICTURE WILL BE BETTER

MAYBE I CAN MESS THE HAIR UP


(ETA: Okay, look, people. "I can mess the hair up" means I will be buying it anyway, because I love Alice. If I am really sincerely angry about something, I will not express that in capslock. Capslock is for exaggerating and playing things up. It's not one of the outfits I did like, but I can live with it. I suspect they will fix the hair to be more flipped out and quietly change the picture on the site. It's a cute doll as it is, but it's frustrating, in a not-that-it-really-matters way, to see them get the Galadriel so right and then mess up something as key as the hair--a major Alice feature--on this one and give it one of the less-interesting outfits. People asked me to report my initial gut reaction when I saw it. So I did. But it's okay.)


A quick rundown:

Twilight: Oh God, the new Bella likeness is... no. (I will totally buy the outfit if someone sells it separately.) We're holding steady with the Edward likeness, although the gaze is SUPER INTENSE. Nice suit, though.

Lord of the Rings: Besides the Galadriel, there's a Legolas, but no pictures yet. I still crave the Arwen, even though the dress isn't entirely movie-accurate, because it is pretty.

Firefly: You can see the Inara, but it is sold out. I think they said they'd be doing a different one later.

Prince of Persia: As previously revealed. I would totally go for the Tamina if it was the full princess/priestess outfit with all the veils.

Jonah Hex: Really? Really?



omg my moneys



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Date: 2010-06-10 09:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] narnian-dreamer.livejournal.com
I'm sorry your feelings were hurt. It can be really hard to tell what someone means in a comment because the written word doesn't carry vocal inflection or facial expression. I got yelled at through the internet a lot for comments I meant as polite when I first joined fandom (and still do occasionally). I also initially read your comment as hostile. If it's helpful to you, I can tell you what made me read your words in a biting tone, so you can avoid it later. If not, skip the rest of this comment and just know you have my sympathies.

If you don't like Alice's beautiful outfits, movie or doll, what do you folks dig about clothes/costumes? You're clearly all about the gothic and fantasy duds if you're Cleolinda. What makes the difference between what you like about those pretty styles (or whatever you dig) and Alice's? I'd honestly like some opinions here.

That phrase "beautiful clothes" in the first statement is a value judgement: it declares the clothes to be beautiful, while talking to someone who does not think they are beautiful. This implies that the person who doesn't find them beautiful has something wrong with their judgement. You can easily read the sentence in a tone of "what on earth DO you like if you don't like this?" I know you didn't mean it that way, but it's tough to tell.

As a general rule, you also shouldn't tell someone what they're all about, especially someone you only know from the internet. Something like, "I've noticed you seem to like gothic and fantasy duds" or "judging by the pictures you link to, you like gothic and fantasy duds," is more polite. I think I know what you meant, but it kind of sounded like you were labeling her, which people don't like. If you use "I" statements when talking about someone else's opinions or tastes, it's less likely to be read as hostile.

Your last two sentences are perfectly polite, in my opinion. I hope that was helpful in some way.

Thank you.

Date: 2010-06-10 10:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] castleatmydoor.livejournal.com
Thank you, sincerely. I could understand all of this after reviewing what I wrote. I have a form of autism that makes me need subtle details about communication verbalized to me to understand them, since I'm developing socially what people normally do at an early age (I learned this from a seminar).

My family understands that I wasn't born with the social skills to survive, but because I don't wear a sign that says, "I'm really struggling"; everyone else will think I'm rude when I screw up. It gets really hard sometimes.

Re: Thank you.

Date: 2010-06-10 10:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sevenmarie.livejournal.com
i want to apologize for calling you rude. As narnian_dreamer said, your inflection doesn't come off on the internet. I didn't mean to make you upset or be rude myself.

Re: Thank you.

Date: 2010-06-10 10:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] castleatmydoor.livejournal.com
It is really hard for me to remember that sometimes since I have a very expressive voice. Most people laugh at my jokes and like me in person. I'm happy you understand.

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