So someone else has run off and reposted my work (this time, it's Twilight in Fifteen Minutes. NO DOGPILING, Y'ALL). I don't go looking for this stuff, because honestly, if I started trying to police the internet--which I did try for a little while, back when I was first writing these things--I would never, ever get anything else done. But I feel like once you've brought it to my attention--I don't know that legally I have to do anything; this isn't an issue of trademark, which has to be defended pretty vigorously; it's a simple matter of copyright flowing from the pen, as the expression goes. I wrote this, it is verifiably mine, and I have the right to decide who does and does not get to run off with it. So morally--perhaps, more accurately, emotionally--you feel like you're not supposed to let it go.
(The Creative Commons license, by the way--all you do is paste the code in for the graphic. You don't have to "acquire" anything. Copyright flows from the pen. It's like, if you own property, it is illegal for people to trespass on it. You can put up a fence with a PRIVATE PROPERTY sign on it, but that doesn't confer the ownership to you; you're simply stating an existing fact. And people can still climb that fence and get up in your shit if they want to. Which is why I have it the CC graphic--to state what should already be obvious to people who are completely ignorant of intellectual property rights--but it's also why I don't set a whole lot of stock in the usefulness of it. The kind of people who would jump your fence--a sign ain't gonna stop them.)
The problem with this one is that the girl's gotten defiant and is actually kind of being an assbite about it. It's not as funny as the time that one girl insisted she bought the rights to POTO in Fifteen Minutes from her cousin for $47.12, but it's still pretty absurd. And kind of enraging. But I am so tired, y'all. I've got a chest cold, we're in month four of the Compocalypse, I put in a full eight-hour work day on the "Vampires" e-book yesterday, my eyelid is jumping, The Littlest Edward is over there playing his violin just for me. And this is probably all my fault. I didn't go get an account at the stupid journal site and ask her politely myself. I let other people with accounts contact her--politely, I hope--and that probably put her back up. But I was so tired. So I got lazy.
I haven't looked at the comments myself--I did look to verify that she posted the entire thing without any credit--because I don't know that I can handle any more negative energy coming my way at the moment; I've had a lot of bad vibes sent my way in the last couple of weeks. But apparently the highlight is something to the effect of, "lolololol the author. It's a fucking Twilight parody. You're a moron. If she didn't want it posted on the internet, she shouldn't have posted it on the internet. Good luck with that lawsuit." There's a part of me that doesn't give a shit. I don't want to be all like, PEOPLE KNOW WHO I AAAAAM, I HAVE THE FAAAAAAME. Because, I mean, I don't. The Star Wars YouTube Kid is infinitely better-known than all of us here combined times ten. But myentirely predictable style is recognizable enough now, after five years of doing this, that there's a strong likelihood that someone's eventually going to be like, "You douche, someone else wrote this." So they might be able to "impress" their immediate circle of friends, but someone's going to call them out before it gets passed around too widely. I mean, someone came and informed me, after all. So I don't really have to "protect" my schtick the way I used to have to.
On the other hand, people who get mouthy and ignorant about stealing someone else's work piss me off. (And as one of y'all points out in the thread here, "I highlighted [the post] and all the 'do not repost in its entirety' stuff is not there. That alone says she knew where it was and to remove it." Apparently she claims she found it uncredited on another board, though, so we'll give her the benefit of the doubt.) I don't know what else she and her friends have been saying, but it seems to be pretty asstastic. (Apparently the post has now been amended with "which I did not write" and, at one point, "someone named cleolinda wrote this, if anyone cares.") And amid all my busyness and tiredness, there is a stubborn little part of me that's like, AW HALE NO. A very petty, vindictive, counterproductive part, because am I honestly going to waste my energy on something this inconsequential? My name's on it now, if not an actual link; let her be a fuckwit about it if she wants, it's no actual skin off my teeth, and I've got actual gainful employment to get to. So it's really stupid and I have someone with A Twin Lightsaber of Cease and Desist who's willing to handle it (I SAID NO DOGPILES. DON'T MAKE ME LOOK LIKE A JERK, Y'ALL) and I feel ridiculous for even caring about it.
My point, really, is simply that this is what's going on at the moment. And that I am tired, and that sometimes you get into a no-win situation that chaps your hide anyway, and this is the thought process you go through. It's stupid to get upset, and yet... you do. Fnarr.
ETA: Okay. She's apologized. As for you guys? I have finally read most of the comments, and while I said NO DOGPILING, most of y'all were admirably civil. However?
The authors onto you, BTW: http://cleolinda.livejournal.com/820888.html?#cutid1
Check out the number of commenters on that post - that's the number of people who hate you right now.
BAD FORM. You better hope I don't find out who that was.

(The Creative Commons license, by the way--all you do is paste the code in for the graphic. You don't have to "acquire" anything. Copyright flows from the pen. It's like, if you own property, it is illegal for people to trespass on it. You can put up a fence with a PRIVATE PROPERTY sign on it, but that doesn't confer the ownership to you; you're simply stating an existing fact. And people can still climb that fence and get up in your shit if they want to. Which is why I have it the CC graphic--to state what should already be obvious to people who are completely ignorant of intellectual property rights--but it's also why I don't set a whole lot of stock in the usefulness of it. The kind of people who would jump your fence--a sign ain't gonna stop them.)
The problem with this one is that the girl's gotten defiant and is actually kind of being an assbite about it. It's not as funny as the time that one girl insisted she bought the rights to POTO in Fifteen Minutes from her cousin for $47.12, but it's still pretty absurd. And kind of enraging. But I am so tired, y'all. I've got a chest cold, we're in month four of the Compocalypse, I put in a full eight-hour work day on the "Vampires" e-book yesterday, my eyelid is jumping, The Littlest Edward is over there playing his violin just for me. And this is probably all my fault. I didn't go get an account at the stupid journal site and ask her politely myself. I let other people with accounts contact her--politely, I hope--and that probably put her back up. But I was so tired. So I got lazy.
I haven't looked at the comments myself--I did look to verify that she posted the entire thing without any credit--because I don't know that I can handle any more negative energy coming my way at the moment; I've had a lot of bad vibes sent my way in the last couple of weeks. But apparently the highlight is something to the effect of, "lolololol the author. It's a fucking Twilight parody. You're a moron. If she didn't want it posted on the internet, she shouldn't have posted it on the internet. Good luck with that lawsuit." There's a part of me that doesn't give a shit. I don't want to be all like, PEOPLE KNOW WHO I AAAAAM, I HAVE THE FAAAAAAME. Because, I mean, I don't. The Star Wars YouTube Kid is infinitely better-known than all of us here combined times ten. But my
On the other hand, people who get mouthy and ignorant about stealing someone else's work piss me off. (And as one of y'all points out in the thread here, "I highlighted [the post] and all the 'do not repost in its entirety' stuff is not there. That alone says she knew where it was and to remove it." Apparently she claims she found it uncredited on another board, though, so we'll give her the benefit of the doubt.) I don't know what else she and her friends have been saying, but it seems to be pretty asstastic. (Apparently the post has now been amended with "which I did not write" and, at one point, "someone named cleolinda wrote this, if anyone cares.") And amid all my busyness and tiredness, there is a stubborn little part of me that's like, AW HALE NO. A very petty, vindictive, counterproductive part, because am I honestly going to waste my energy on something this inconsequential? My name's on it now, if not an actual link; let her be a fuckwit about it if she wants, it's no actual skin off my teeth, and I've got actual gainful employment to get to. So it's really stupid and I have someone with A Twin Lightsaber of Cease and Desist who's willing to handle it (I SAID NO DOGPILES. DON'T MAKE ME LOOK LIKE A JERK, Y'ALL) and I feel ridiculous for even caring about it.
My point, really, is simply that this is what's going on at the moment. And that I am tired, and that sometimes you get into a no-win situation that chaps your hide anyway, and this is the thought process you go through. It's stupid to get upset, and yet... you do. Fnarr.
ETA: Okay. She's apologized. As for you guys? I have finally read most of the comments, and while I said NO DOGPILING, most of y'all were admirably civil. However?
The authors onto you, BTW: http://cleolinda.livejournal.com/820888.html?#cutid1
Check out the number of commenters on that post - that's the number of people who hate you right now.
BAD FORM. You better hope I don't find out who that was.
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Date: 2009-11-11 03:01 pm (UTC)(Where's that "Aw HALE No" icon from, by the way?)
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Date: 2009-11-11 03:01 pm (UTC)And: kids today, Goddamn. I can't wait until that twit gets to university and tries to pull that shit on a paper.
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Date: 2009-11-11 03:05 pm (UTC)It isn't as fun at a secondary level, cause you still have that niggling feeling that they should be doing work to actually get an education, but tertiary, hah! Who cares if they're throwing their own (or their parents') money down the sink! Red pen of shame for you.
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Date: 2009-11-11 03:02 pm (UTC)Regarding the comments and dogpiles, I kind of wish you'd read them because your readers are being so incredibly polite. No name calling, no trash talking. Just firmly and respectfully asking her to take it down. That's why her asshatery comes across so badly. It's not like anyone said, "TAKE IT DOWN YOU BITCH" and yet she's being incredibly uncivil about it. Anyway, the way your readers are handling it is really a testament to you, I think--you put out good energy and you're attracting good people to your blog as a result.
Many hugs going out to you. The situation just sucks.
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Date: 2009-11-11 03:20 pm (UTC)Although, yeah--civility is an excellent way to let assholes hang themselves with their own rope.
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Date: 2009-11-11 03:03 pm (UTC)And amid all my busyness and tiredness, there is a stubborn little part of me that's like, AW HALE NO. A very petty, vindictive, counterproductive part, because am I honestly going to waste my energy on something this inconsequential?
Sometimes you just have to...I hesitate to say "indulge" since it's not like you're doing something fun, but sometimes you just have to spend some time on that because it does really, really bug you. I swear that's at least 60% of the reason why my mom deals with all the school board/grassroots political organizations she does. And like you said, people who get bitchy about stealing other people's work annoys you, so it's not just a "me me me!" thing; this bugs you in general. So I don't see this as you screaming "MY ART WILL BE RESPECTED!", basically
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Date: 2009-11-11 03:05 pm (UTC)It's really terrible that an instant and free way to share information and entertainment has made people disregard intellectual ownership like that.
My education profs say that the internet increased plagiarism a thousand-fold.
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Date: 2009-11-11 03:10 pm (UTC)Anyway, at least you know you've got people watching your back. Sometimes it's really beneficial to have such a huge following.
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Date: 2009-11-11 03:13 pm (UTC)A little passive-aggressive, maybe. But I didn't want to start a dogpile right away. Since, you know, you told me not to.
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Date: 2009-11-11 03:17 pm (UTC)It took almost two months to get it removed. :(
Then I was alerted to a BNF in our fandom that had also stolen word-for-word my work and changed the characters around. And many came to her defense as well.
I hate thieves.
So I'm sending some negative thoughts on your behalf and hope you get it all straightened out soon.
Here's a cute puppy icon in hopes of cheering you up a bit. :)
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Date: 2009-11-11 03:24 pm (UTC)Yeah, try to keep that in mind. The only people she might be impressing is her room temperature IQ clique. And even then, they seem too dumb to really get many of the jokes.
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Date: 2009-11-11 06:58 pm (UTC)My god that is a magical sentence. So much meaning in so few words. I applaud you.
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Date: 2009-11-11 03:42 pm (UTC)I mean, I have a friend who is a musician and his fans are often angry or bewildered when he tells them that he's not cool with people downloading copies of his music for free from torrent sites.
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Date: 2009-11-11 03:39 pm (UTC)Dude. He is so not, and you know it. He may be aiming it in your general direction, but I'd say that 45% of it is aimed at you, TOPS. The rest is aimed at The Littlest Bella.
I'd lend you my cane to shake at these goddamn kids all over the goddamn Internet lawn, but I need it to walk this morning.
Plus, I need to get to work and so do you because I am waiting with baited breath* for VAMPIRES ebook. I have been saving my beer allowance pennies. *nods*
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*for values of animal attracted to a doughnut as bait...
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Date: 2009-11-11 03:45 pm (UTC)Despite the taxation on your emotions and energy level (which is totally understandable), I'd say you're handling this rather well.
It really sucks that ass haberdashery such as this ruins the internets for the rest of us. It seems no matter what you put out, if it's the least bit clever, someone, somewhere, is going to swipe it and call it their own. Fuckwits, I tell you!
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Date: 2009-11-11 03:55 pm (UTC)Can I just applaud this person? Well done, and thanks for having Cleo's back! I'm really hoping it gets taken down. Snarky, link-less credit isn't the same as respecting your stated wish that people not repost your work in its entirety.
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Date: 2009-11-11 04:10 pm (UTC)Anyway, my point is this: don't beat yourself up for caring. There is absolutely nothing wrong with being protective of your work. I'm sorry that you are feeling so crummy and unable to fight. But you can know that there are scads and scads of people here who've got your back.
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Date: 2009-11-11 04:30 pm (UTC)I'm glad someone has your back on this. And I'm sure all your readers respect you enough to keep all this polite and respectful. Even if this girl didn't.
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Date: 2009-11-11 06:11 pm (UTC)Except the icon.
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Date: 2009-11-11 04:30 pm (UTC)I know you're tired. *hug* We love you and support you, hon.
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Date: 2009-11-11 04:35 pm (UTC)Because, see, in my mind, it's the principle of the thing, and it's also the idea that the more we're complacent about it, the more we allow people like this to do it, the more they'll be convinced they can, and that it's okay, and more, that nothing whatsoever will happen to them and there are no consequences. That's why intellectual property theft is treated so casually, because there's little known about the consequences thereof, and there's very little readily available knowledge about those consequences or enforcing them.
If I had a collection of links to information about what the penalties are, and even better, to news articles or other stories about people who've actually been caught and punished for this sort of thing, that's what I would link to in a comment to this person. Right now the biggest known story I can think of is the whole Rowling vs. The Lexicon deal.
I will have to work on that. Hmmmm.... ::ponders::
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Date: 2009-11-11 05:10 pm (UTC)This bit is especially for everyone. How many of you have ever been told, either at school or by another authority figure, and told specifically what plagiarism is and why you shouldn't do it? I really can't remember if that happened at any time in either high school or college for me. I was always more-or-less aware of it just because I picked up on the message somehow, but I'm not sure if I was ever directly informed. I'm thinking that students should be informed about plagiarism earlier than ever (as soon as they start being assigned papers) to make certain that they at least know the word "plagiarism" before it can get them expelled from college. And that yes, it still counts if it's on the Internet.
(As well as being an aspiring author, I'm currently in grad school to earn a Master's in Library and Information Studies. I'm just starting to dip my feet into the ocean of copyright, open-access, and how letting everybody take out the same copy of a library book is different than letting them just photocopy it.)
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