Sigh.

Nov. 11th, 2009 08:13 am
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So someone else has run off and reposted my work (this time, it's Twilight in Fifteen Minutes. NO DOGPILING, Y'ALL). I don't go looking for this stuff, because honestly, if I started trying to police the internet--which I did try for a little while, back when I was first writing these things--I would never, ever get anything else done. But I feel like once you've brought it to my attention--I don't know that legally I have to do anything; this isn't an issue of trademark, which has to be defended pretty vigorously; it's a simple matter of copyright flowing from the pen, as the expression goes. I wrote this, it is verifiably mine, and I have the right to decide who does and does not get to run off with it. So morally--perhaps, more accurately, emotionally--you feel like you're not supposed to let it go.

(The Creative Commons license, by the way--all you do is paste the code in for the graphic. You don't have to "acquire" anything. Copyright flows from the pen. It's like, if you own property, it is illegal for people to trespass on it. You can put up a fence with a PRIVATE PROPERTY sign on it, but that doesn't confer the ownership to you; you're simply stating an existing fact. And people can still climb that fence and get up in your shit if they want to. Which is why I have it the CC graphic--to state what should already be obvious to people who are completely ignorant of intellectual property rights--but it's also why I don't set a whole lot of stock in the usefulness of it. The kind of people who would jump your fence--a sign ain't gonna stop them.)

The problem with this one is that the girl's gotten defiant and is actually kind of being an assbite about it. It's not as funny as the time that one girl insisted she bought the rights to POTO in Fifteen Minutes from her cousin for $47.12, but it's still pretty absurd. And kind of enraging. But I am so tired, y'all. I've got a chest cold, we're in month four of the Compocalypse, I put in a full eight-hour work day on the "Vampires" e-book yesterday, my eyelid is jumping, The Littlest Edward is over there playing his violin just for me. And this is probably all my fault. I didn't go get an account at the stupid journal site and ask her politely myself. I let other people with accounts contact her--politely, I hope--and that probably put her back up. But I was so tired. So I got lazy.

I haven't looked at the comments myself--I did look to verify that she posted the entire thing without any credit--because I don't know that I can handle any more negative energy coming my way at the moment; I've had a lot of bad vibes sent my way in the last couple of weeks. But apparently the highlight is something to the effect of, "lolololol the author. It's a fucking Twilight parody. You're a moron. If she didn't want it posted on the internet, she shouldn't have posted it on the internet. Good luck with that lawsuit." There's a part of me that doesn't give a shit. I don't want to be all like, PEOPLE KNOW WHO I AAAAAM, I HAVE THE FAAAAAAME. Because, I mean, I don't. The Star Wars YouTube Kid is infinitely better-known than all of us here combined times ten. But my entirely predictable style is recognizable enough now, after five years of doing this, that there's a strong likelihood that someone's eventually going to be like, "You douche, someone else wrote this." So they might be able to "impress" their immediate circle of friends, but someone's going to call them out before it gets passed around too widely. I mean, someone came and informed me, after all. So I don't really have to "protect" my schtick the way I used to have to.

On the other hand, people who get mouthy and ignorant about stealing someone else's work piss me off. (And as one of y'all points out in the thread here, "I highlighted [the post] and all the 'do not repost in its entirety' stuff is not there. That alone says she knew where it was and to remove it." Apparently she claims she found it uncredited on another board, though, so we'll give her the benefit of the doubt.) I don't know what else she and her friends have been saying, but it seems to be pretty asstastic. (Apparently the post has now been amended with "which I did not write" and, at one point, "someone named cleolinda wrote this, if anyone cares.") And amid all my busyness and tiredness, there is a stubborn little part of me that's like, AW HALE NO. A very petty, vindictive, counterproductive part, because am I honestly going to waste my energy on something this inconsequential? My name's on it now, if not an actual link; let her be a fuckwit about it if she wants, it's no actual skin off my teeth, and I've got actual gainful employment to get to. So it's really stupid and I have someone with A Twin Lightsaber of Cease and Desist who's willing to handle it (I SAID NO DOGPILES. DON'T MAKE ME LOOK LIKE A JERK, Y'ALL) and I feel ridiculous for even caring about it.

My point, really, is simply that this is what's going on at the moment. And that I am tired, and that sometimes you get into a no-win situation that chaps your hide anyway, and this is the thought process you go through. It's stupid to get upset, and yet... you do. Fnarr.


ETA: Okay. She's apologized. As for you guys? I have finally read most of the comments, and while I said NO DOGPILING, most of y'all were admirably civil. However?

The authors onto you, BTW: http://cleolinda.livejournal.com/820888.html?#cutid1

Check out the number of commenters on that post - that's the number of people who hate you right now.


BAD FORM. You better hope I don't find out who that was.


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Date: 2009-11-11 02:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] megaleena.livejournal.com
Can we all think bad thoughts about her?

Date: 2009-11-11 02:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cleolinda.livejournal.com
Bad thoughts are completely acceptable.

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Date: 2009-11-11 03:01 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] chris-walsh.livejournal.com
But at least at some level, saying "Aw HALE No" is strangely satisfying...

(Where's that "Aw HALE No" icon from, by the way?)

Date: 2009-11-11 03:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cleolinda.livejournal.com
It's Rose on Lost. She and her husband Bernard go live in the jungle on their own while the other Lostaways are stuck living undercover in the Dharma village, and when some of the Losties stumble upon them, they're all like, we were trying to get AWAY from you people and your crazy. I believe Rose actually says, "Oh HELL no."

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Date: 2009-11-11 03:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cupcakery.livejournal.com
Oh, Cleo. Want me to beat up the universe for you?

And: kids today, Goddamn. I can't wait until that twit gets to university and tries to pull that shit on a paper.

Date: 2009-11-11 03:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] annemjw.livejournal.com
I take somewhat malicious joy at red penning people who copyright at a tertiary level.

It isn't as fun at a secondary level, cause you still have that niggling feeling that they should be doing work to actually get an education, but tertiary, hah! Who cares if they're throwing their own (or their parents') money down the sink! Red pen of shame for you.

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Date: 2009-11-11 03:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chulacabra.livejournal.com
First off, of *course* you're angry. One of the shitty things about being a writer is that people don't take ownership seriously. Like they know if they took your bicycle or something, it's theft, but somehow taking a written work, which potentially could be worth a lot more than a bicycle, is a-okay. So don't apologize for being pissed.

Regarding the comments and dogpiles, I kind of wish you'd read them because your readers are being so incredibly polite. No name calling, no trash talking. Just firmly and respectfully asking her to take it down. That's why her asshatery comes across so badly. It's not like anyone said, "TAKE IT DOWN YOU BITCH" and yet she's being incredibly uncivil about it. Anyway, the way your readers are handling it is really a testament to you, I think--you put out good energy and you're attracting good people to your blog as a result.

Many hugs going out to you. The situation just sucks.

Date: 2009-11-11 03:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cleolinda.livejournal.com
Aw, that's really great. The problem is, I'd have to see her comments in order to see theirs, and I just don't know that I could handle that right now. I'm ridiculously fragile at the moment for some stupid reason.

Although, yeah--civility is an excellent way to let assholes hang themselves with their own rope.

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Date: 2009-11-11 03:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] scornedsaint.livejournal.com
At least she has changed the title to "highly amusing twilight summary." So it's sort of like she's acknowledging your brilliance, in her own special, asstastic way.

And amid all my busyness and tiredness, there is a stubborn little part of me that's like, AW HALE NO. A very petty, vindictive, counterproductive part, because am I honestly going to waste my energy on something this inconsequential?

Sometimes you just have to...I hesitate to say "indulge" since it's not like you're doing something fun, but sometimes you just have to spend some time on that because it does really, really bug you. I swear that's at least 60% of the reason why my mom deals with all the school board/grassroots political organizations she does. And like you said, people who get bitchy about stealing other people's work annoys you, so it's not just a "me me me!" thing; this bugs you in general. So I don't see this as you screaming "MY ART WILL BE RESPECTED!", basically

Date: 2009-11-11 03:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cleolinda.livejournal.com
Well, it was originally "Highly amusing Twilight summary," just with no credit, leaving it open for people to think she wrote it. Although usually people don't describe their own work that way, which is a subtle indication that she didn't. But most people don't think about that kind of thing.

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Date: 2009-11-11 03:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] narnian-dreamer.livejournal.com
I'm sorry. That totally sucks.

It's really terrible that an instant and free way to share information and entertainment has made people disregard intellectual ownership like that.

My education profs say that the internet increased plagiarism a thousand-fold.

Date: 2009-11-11 03:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] annemjw.livejournal.com
On the other and the internet also means that anyone stupid enough to plagiarise from it can be caught very quickly, which is quite fun. Ah, the paper trail of electronics. As it were :D

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Date: 2009-11-11 03:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] myfebruarysong.livejournal.com
People like her piss me off, to be frank, and I'm not big on swearing. She gets all mad at people saying she didn't write it because now everyone who read it will know the truth! Gasp!

Anyway, at least you know you've got people watching your back. Sometimes it's really beneficial to have such a huge following.

Date: 2009-11-11 03:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cleolinda.livejournal.com
Well, I wouldn't call it huge, but it's far-flung enough that there's almost always one person on any given site who'll recognize my stuff.

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Date: 2009-11-11 03:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bluinkalchemist.livejournal.com
All I did was make an account on that site just to ask if she wrote it. Although I knew already she didn't.

A little passive-aggressive, maybe. But I didn't want to start a dogpile right away. Since, you know, you told me not to.

Date: 2009-11-11 03:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cleolinda.livejournal.com
Yeah, I did see your comment early on, and that was fine. : )

Date: 2009-11-11 03:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bishsticks.livejournal.com
I really don't understand people sometimes. I had a fic stolen and put up on ff.net once. It was word for word my story, but with the characters' names changed. Someone called them on it. And you wouldn't believe the number of comments after that, in support of the thief, saying they didn't care it was stolen, because they liked her pairing better than mine.

It took almost two months to get it removed. :(

Then I was alerted to a BNF in our fandom that had also stolen word-for-word my work and changed the characters around. And many came to her defense as well.

I hate thieves.

So I'm sending some negative thoughts on your behalf and hope you get it all straightened out soon.

Here's a cute puppy icon in hopes of cheering you up a bit. :)

Date: 2009-11-11 03:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] manekikoneko.livejournal.com
The same thing happened with some Christian author who published something online a few Christmases ago, and was shortly thereafter told that a lot of people recognized the story from a "Chicken Soup for the Soul" book, by another author, and yet his fans defended his plagiarism as some sort of valid reinterpretation of the original (e.g. he changed the name of the child to that of his son). People are just weird. Sadly, I think it comes back to the comment above; writers' ownership is just no respected by a lot of people.

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Date: 2009-11-11 03:17 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] corinnethewise.livejournal.com
::Hugs:: Hope the day gets better. I totally know the feeling of being really pissed about something that maybe I shouldn't be spending so much energy on. Especially when tired. Go you putting in a full day on Vampires though! I'm super excited to read it when you've finished.

Date: 2009-11-11 03:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nicolars.livejournal.com
"So they might be able to "impress" their immediate circle of friends, but someone's going to call them out before it gets passed around too widely"

Yeah, try to keep that in mind. The only people she might be impressing is her room temperature IQ clique. And even then, they seem too dumb to really get many of the jokes.

Date: 2009-11-11 06:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] emmaorgana.livejournal.com
...her room temperature IQ clique.

My god that is a magical sentence. So much meaning in so few words. I applaud you.

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Date: 2009-11-11 03:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jennawaterford.livejournal.com
Well, I'm definitely a lot stupider than I was before I read that thread. Urge to slap was nearly overwhelming.

Date: 2009-11-11 03:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bkwyrm.livejournal.com
It's been my experience that there's a certain subset of entitled asshats that get reeeeeeeeeeally defensive when confronted with their plagiarism. I wrote a funny little essay on "TwinkiePagans" about ten years ago that got lifted, changed, mis-attributed, and plagiarized all over the place. The justifications that people came up with for swiping it and claiming they wrote it were mind-boggling.

Date: 2009-11-11 03:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nicolars.livejournal.com
I think it's part of the download mentality -- "If I have the ability to download or copy something, then I should be able to do it without any legal/moral/ethical ramifications! The person being stolen from should feel flattered!"

I mean, I have a friend who is a musician and his fans are often angry or bewildered when he tells them that he's not cool with people downloading copies of his music for free from torrent sites.

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Date: 2009-11-11 03:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dachelle.livejournal.com
It's not stupid to get upset. Heck, her stupidity and assiness upset me, and I'm not even the author!

Date: 2009-11-11 03:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cleolinda.livejournal.com
Yeah, I think it's the assiness that has raised it to an entirely new level of unable-to-ignorability.

Date: 2009-11-11 03:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wondersheep.livejournal.com
The Littlest Edward is over there playing his violin just for me.

Dude. He is so not, and you know it. He may be aiming it in your general direction, but I'd say that 45% of it is aimed at you, TOPS. The rest is aimed at The Littlest Bella.

I'd lend you my cane to shake at these goddamn kids all over the goddamn Internet lawn, but I need it to walk this morning.

Plus, I need to get to work and so do you because I am waiting with baited breath* for VAMPIRES ebook. I have been saving my beer allowance pennies. *nods*

---
*for values of animal attracted to a doughnut as bait...

Date: 2009-11-11 03:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mellymell.livejournal.com
That sounds a little bit like an "AW ROSALIE HALE NO!" to me. ;)

Despite the taxation on your emotions and energy level (which is totally understandable), I'd say you're handling this rather well.

It really sucks that ass haberdashery such as this ruins the internets for the rest of us. It seems no matter what you put out, if it's the least bit clever, someone, somewhere, is going to swipe it and call it their own. Fuckwits, I tell you!

Date: 2009-11-11 03:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icecreamprincss.livejournal.com
I have someone with A Twin Lightsaber of Cease and Desist who's willing to handle it

Can I just applaud this person? Well done, and thanks for having Cleo's back! I'm really hoping it gets taken down. Snarky, link-less credit isn't the same as respecting your stated wish that people not repost your work in its entirety.

Date: 2009-11-11 03:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erinlin.livejournal.com
That really sucks. *sends you good vibes*

Date: 2009-11-11 04:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kaelajael.livejournal.com
One click and you get her facebook page with her name...In this day and age, where prospective employers often run checks through the internet, she is doing herself a major disservice carrying on like this.

Date: 2009-11-11 04:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tygress.livejournal.com
Things like that are my one comfort in this day and age of over indulged asshats. :)

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Date: 2009-11-11 04:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] notashamed.livejournal.com
Of course you CARE about it Cleo. It's your work, your time, your energy, your humor. No one wants someone else to get credit for their work! Honestly, that happens to me at work quite often and I want to shoot people in the foot for it. Maybe that's excessive, idk.

Anyway, my point is this: don't beat yourself up for caring. There is absolutely nothing wrong with being protective of your work. I'm sorry that you are feeling so crummy and unable to fight. But you can know that there are scads and scads of people here who've got your back.

Date: 2009-11-11 04:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thelittlebudgie.livejournal.com
Weren't you doing the summaries over the spring and summer? I'm just wondering how she found it on a bulletin a year ago...

Date: 2009-11-11 04:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cleolinda.livejournal.com
They were summer of last year.

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Date: 2009-11-11 04:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aravynkenobi.livejournal.com
Wow, this sucks. I'm really sorry you're having to deal with this on top of everything else. You being upset about it is completely understandable. You worked hard on it and now someone else is taking the credit? I think your icon sums it up nicely. (It also has the added effect of making me wish LOST was already back on)

I'm glad someone has your back on this. And I'm sure all your readers respect you enough to keep all this polite and respectful. Even if this girl didn't.

Date: 2009-11-11 06:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wondersheep.livejournal.com
Hm? Oh, I have nothing really to add.

Except the icon.

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Date: 2009-11-11 04:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kws136.livejournal.com
I shall think bad thoughts about this random person. Also, keep in mind that WE like you and WE like your style, and should WE see something that looks like you wrote/did it at all, we're probably gonna speak up. So I know this is a long day, but you do have people behind you.

Date: 2009-11-11 04:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fiducia.livejournal.com
It is a no win situation and I'm SURE it chaps your hide. At the same time she isn't trying to get money for it so from a purely practical POV she's not doing you any real harm other than being an ass about things.

I know you're tired. *hug* We love you and support you, hon.

Date: 2009-11-12 01:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] maramala.livejournal.com
Just because it doesn't involve money changing hands doesn't mean no harm was made.

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Date: 2009-11-11 04:35 pm (UTC)
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I would say definitely allow someone else with A Twin Lightsaber of Cease and Desist handle it for you if you're unable to handle it yourself.

Because, see, in my mind, it's the principle of the thing, and it's also the idea that the more we're complacent about it, the more we allow people like this to do it, the more they'll be convinced they can, and that it's okay, and more, that nothing whatsoever will happen to them and there are no consequences. That's why intellectual property theft is treated so casually, because there's little known about the consequences thereof, and there's very little readily available knowledge about those consequences or enforcing them.

If I had a collection of links to information about what the penalties are, and even better, to news articles or other stories about people who've actually been caught and punished for this sort of thing, that's what I would link to in a comment to this person. Right now the biggest known story I can think of is the whole Rowling vs. The Lexicon deal.

I will have to work on that. Hmmmm.... ::ponders::

Date: 2009-11-11 05:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amelia-petkova.livejournal.com
I do really wonder how much she knows about plagiarism and its side-effects.

This bit is especially for everyone. How many of you have ever been told, either at school or by another authority figure, and told specifically what plagiarism is and why you shouldn't do it? I really can't remember if that happened at any time in either high school or college for me. I was always more-or-less aware of it just because I picked up on the message somehow, but I'm not sure if I was ever directly informed. I'm thinking that students should be informed about plagiarism earlier than ever (as soon as they start being assigned papers) to make certain that they at least know the word "plagiarism" before it can get them expelled from college. And that yes, it still counts if it's on the Internet.

(As well as being an aspiring author, I'm currently in grad school to earn a Master's in Library and Information Studies. I'm just starting to dip my feet into the ocean of copyright, open-access, and how letting everybody take out the same copy of a library book is different than letting them just photocopy it.)

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