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I'm done with the entire [livejournal.com profile] niamhstar thing. Apparently it "all makes sense now" because "things happen." Maybe there are "explanations" to be had and she'll "crack her code" for us, but I, personally, have better things to do.

In happier news, Sister Girl is now out of bed and back at work. Apparently they had to actually cut into her jawbone and take one of the teeth out in pieces, which is why recovery was so hard for her (I don't think she spent an entire day out of bed until yesterday). My mother and my aunt are out on their bikes, because my aunt's off from teaching for Good Monday (yes, I know it's not Good Monday. Birmingham City Schools: We Maek Yer Kids Smrt!). Me, I've been doing a lot of writing lately and feeling pretty good. I've mostly been working on the Fantasy Opus, whose details I am guarding so closely that I would rather give it a lame-ass nickname like "the Fantasy Opus" rather than actually tell you the title. Good times. I'm mostly still in the drafting phase, where I sit down and freewrite and sort of describe to myself, in present tense, what I see happening. This way I get down dialogue and plot details--and, occasionally, actual turns of phrase--without having the pressure of Writing with a capital W. Half the time I slip into my narrative voice (dead giveaway: past tense) anyway, and usually by the time I get to a revision phase, I discover that there's not all that much I have to change, other than verb tense and a bit of cleanup, anyway. The freewriting/describing is more about tricking myself into thinking that no one's looking, if that makes any sense.

Meanwhile, my mother (who is still off work) and I were having lunch a couple of hours ago, and we got to talking about The Second Book. The second book is not coming along so well. I think what's stressing me out is that I set myself a premise--big movies of 2005--that's pretty much already outdated. I mean, by the time it would hit shelves, it would probably be 2007, and this kind of year-in-review thing can't be more than a year old at the most. And then, if you've done one year, you've basically committed yourself to doing several unless you want to have one lame year-in-review all by its lonesome, and this does not, after some consideration, seem like a good idea to me.

But I hated giving up on the book entirely--one of the things I liked about that selection of movies was that it was chock full of franchise movies: Narnia, another Star Wars, another Potter, etc. So we're sitting there eating takeout from Panera, and it finally occurs to me: Why not just do a book of recent franchise movies? Batman Begins was already on the list, and there is a sequel confirmed for that; in the next three months alone you've got new X-Men, Superman, Mission: Impossible and Pirates of the Caribbean installments. Throw in, let's say, Sin City (another confirmed sequel), and you're already up to nine. And since POTC2 is in July, you've already set aside a good three or four months in which you cannot finish, because even if you do, you're waiting on a new movie to come out. So there's scheduled downtime and less pressure. I like that.

Which reminds me: I always swore I'd never do Pirates of the Caribbean, because it was already funny. Same reason I won't do The Princess Bride: it's just redundant at that point. But we watched POTC with my grandmother last week, and... it's really not... quite... the movie I remembered it being. I still love POTC, and it's a good movie, but after three years, the creakiness shows in places. The entire last, I don't know, forty-five minutes of the movie, with the endless battling of the undead? Yeah. And watching the Jack Sparrow scenes was a little like watching Casablanca again: you've heard all of it repeated and parroted so many times that the gleam of novelty's pretty much gone. I think a sequel would be doable, is what I'm saying, and I wouldn't mind doing the original to put online if time allowed.

(Tenth movie for the book? I don't know. I'd be willing to do any movie from late 2004 to mid 2006 that is part of a confirmed series. Well, I say "any," and that's not true. Any movie from that period would be eligible, let's put it that way.)

Another thing that bothered me about the old configuration of the book: it basically took all of the 2006 movies people wanted parodied and trapped them in print format. That is, none of them could be posted online, and I was too tired--from the first book, and trying to work on the second--to write up anything else. Honestly, V for Vendetta got written because I was just that burnt out on everything else; January to March tends to be a bad time for me, seasonally. So what would happen now is that anything originally destined for the book that wouldn't go in the new series-only version could be written, time allowing, and put online. (As far as that goes, I had DVDs for Constantine for the Reeves-Swinton factor, Serenity, King Kong (on which I have a lot of notes), and Kingdom of Heaven that I could do. Again, time allowing, and anything that would help pay bills would, of course, come first.)

So I'd get one good book of franchise movies out of 2005-2006, maybe wait a couple of years for another slew to come out (Prince Caspian! The Golden Compass! Spider-Man 3!), and in the meantime be able to work on my children's book ideas and the Fantasy Opus and Black Ribbon, and not have to worry about squeezing paid funny out of a yearly turnip. Or something.

So I'm probably going to throw Narnia and Goblet of Fire back in the DVD player and work (some more) on those first, for the book, and get them locked down. Thoughts?

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Date: 2006-04-24 07:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sigma7.livejournal.com
Apparently it "all makes sense now" because "things happen." Maybe there are "explanations" to be had and she'll "crack her code" for us, but I, personally, have better things to do.

Hell, I'd lost track of that whole dramallama a few days back. My original empathy was with her, but if she's going to be OMG en1gmat1c about it (not that I can blame her with the Internet Furies breathing down her back) then, yeah, not going to break out the decoder rings and polygraphs. Besides, the few things she does say outright don't compel me any further.

As for book two, sometimes magic happens (like V), but the greater part of writing is hard hard work -- which is the way it is for lesser mortals 99% of the time. But you've got enough going on that I can understand needing writing as a diversion more than work -- pastimes lose their luster when they become necessities. Would just rather you still found magic in the writing, and hope that it never devolves into a chore for you. That's...that's just no good for anyone.

Just hang in there.

Date: 2006-04-24 07:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cleolinda.livejournal.com
Well, that's why I'm trying to divide it up and space it out a little more so that I get to do some of it for fun and some of it as work. The way I'd scheduled it before, it was all work, and nothing to post online.

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Date: 2006-04-24 07:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] koritsimou.livejournal.com
It's Good Monday for us Orthodox peeps (Kali Anastasi, y'all!), but unless you guys are like, 80%+ Orthodox down there, I'm going to guess that that fact's been ignored like everywhere else in the country.

Date: 2006-04-24 07:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cleolinda.livejournal.com
Yeah... it's mostly Baptist/Methodist country down here.

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Date: 2006-04-24 07:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mary-re.livejournal.com
I'd like to think that [livejournal.com profile] niamhstar is just out of it on painkillers, because if not, she's just purposefully being really confusing. And if I read that entry correctly, she has recently spoken with the guy who kicked her in the face, and she... understands his motivation? Wha?

Whatever. I wash my hands of it all as well.

Date: 2006-04-24 07:31 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] aberrantangels
And if I read that entry correctly, she has recently spoken with the guy who kicked her in the face, and she... understands his motivation? Wha?

O_O I don't think I want to read any entry that can be summed up in those words.

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Date: 2006-04-24 07:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] spectralbovine.livejournal.com
Dude. I didn't realize you had, like, a bona fide book deal. How many do they want you to crank out? That's so cool that you're frickin' getting paid for something you'd been doing for fun anyway.

Also, go [livejournal.com profile] zombiequill with the Neptune Navigator pimp! I hope your vast readership is teeming with potential VM fans with Nielsen boxes.

Date: 2006-04-24 07:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cleolinda.livejournal.com
Well, I mean, there was the first book. I don't have an actual deal for sequels in writing, but they had expressed interest in getting to see anything I worked on in the future, and I think part of what's stressed me out is that I had this tiny window in which to write a 2005-oriented book and still have it be marketable. Widening the parameters would make it a much easier sell, in terms of getting it published.

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Date: 2006-04-24 07:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] skyblade.livejournal.com
Sadly, I don't find the niamhstar deal very surprising.

Fantstic Four is getting a sequel (though I don't know if you consider it to fall under the "comedy" banner) but how about the new James Bond movie? There's another Rocky and that's rife for parody. A third Fast and the Furious is being released...when's Hannibal 902010 coming out?

Date: 2006-04-24 07:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cleolinda.livejournal.com
I don't know--I think Casino Royale is slated for November, and it's on my list, but I don't know if that's too late in the year or not. Theoretically, I might want to have the manuscript turned in by then. Fantastic Four is a thought, although it's... not all that fantastic. But yeah, it would count. When was that, 2004 or 2005? Same year as Batman, right?

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Date: 2006-04-24 07:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elyim.livejournal.com
The book ideas sound great :D

There's also the Eragon/Inheritence Trilogy due, which would probably be those kind of films.

Date: 2006-04-24 07:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cleolinda.livejournal.com
Heh, this is true. Is it coming out this winter? I think the cutoff point needs to be the end of this summer season, but... I have a feeling Eragon would get into a theoretical third book.

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Date: 2006-04-24 07:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] claddagh812.livejournal.com
I like the idea of the franchise-movie book much better than "big movies of 2005." To be honest, though, I'd read whatever you ended up writing and thoroughly enjoy it, whether it's franchise movies, big movies of such-and-such year, or anything else that you come up with.

Date: 2006-04-24 07:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] marciamarcia.livejournal.com
Huh. I'm really surprised that isn't causing more vast internet wank considering all the energy people put into trying to track the guy down. I'm really kind of sad/disgusted to see a face-stomping be worked out and understood and so few people questioning that...though I suppose there's not a whole lot of good internet strangers are going to do for someone if they want to buy into "getting face stomped=not a big deal now".

Date: 2006-04-24 07:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] allthelivesofme.livejournal.com
Recent franchise movies sounds like a great idea! :-) And I haven't seen Sin City for a while, but the thought of a M15M for it makes me a gleeful little person. lol

And as for linkspam, forgetful me has been neglecting to mention these things:

There's a writing contest called the First Adventure Writing Competition (http://deryka.livejournal.com/54135.html#cutid1) going on . . . first prize is a character portrait. :-) Not sure if it's something you specifically would be interested in, Cleo, since you're busy (I can't imagine why. Heh), but someone might be.

Also, I just found out about this neat little charity called Donors Choose, which lets teachers explain what their classrooms need, and people can search through and donate to specific schools/causes. I'm sponsoring a Challenge there (http://allthelivesofme.livejournal.com/132277.html). No idea how it'll work out, but worth a try. :-)

Date: 2006-04-24 07:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] allthelivesofme.livejournal.com
((and the deadline for the writing competition has been extended to June 1, btw))

Date: 2006-04-24 07:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amberdulen.livejournal.com
Would you consider doing old classics: Citizen Kane in 15 Minutes? Or top 10 movies from the 50s, or 60s, or 70s...?

Date: 2006-04-24 07:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] allthelivesofme.livejournal.com
Casablanca in 15 Minutes. ::snicker::

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Have you thought about...

Date: 2006-04-24 07:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mustang-bex1126.livejournal.com
Best Picture winners in 15 Minutes. Or even some of the other categories... Like "Haley Berry movies in 15 Minutes" or some thing like that...

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Date: 2006-04-25 12:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] robyn-ma.livejournal.com
'Best Picture winners in 15 Minutes'

That'd be a fine idea actually, until she got to Schindler's List, which might prove a little awkward to M15M-ize:

NAZIS: WE KEEL YOU!

JEWS: *are dead*

LITTLE GIRL IN RED COAT: *toddles around symbolically*

SCHINDLER: *is emo*

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Date: 2006-04-24 07:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sweetdaddydavid.livejournal.com
Call it "the worst of m15m" and do the Razzies nominees and winners for the past 3 years. Plenty of unintential humor fodder there.

Date: 2006-04-24 07:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wumbawoman.livejournal.com
I think that's a great idea about doing franchise movies. I think the key would be to group the movies so that you are limited to only those that are blockbuster hits or done in a certain time frame.

Here are some suggested categorizations:
Seasonal movies: Christmas M15m.
Genre
Director: Steven Spielberg alone I would think gives you enough material.
Actors
Based on Comic Books
Based on Best Seller books
Based on TV shows

I have to admit, Hubby and I were watching "Star Wars" (Episode IV) and Hubby caught himself saying, "I can't wait until Cleolinda puts this movie in her book." But I think, at least psychologically, a limit needs to be set on the number of books to this subject. While we all LOVE m15m, do you really see this growing to the size of a Brittanica Encyclopedia set?

Well, there is my op ed.

:)

Date: 2006-04-24 08:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cleolinda.livejournal.com
do you really see this growing to the size of a Brittanica Encyclopedia set?

Well, y'all are the ones listing all these themes I should do...

Date: 2006-04-24 07:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] robingal1.livejournal.com
What is "POTC"?

Date: 2006-04-24 07:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] michellerz.livejournal.com
Pirates Of The Caribbean. ;)

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Date: 2006-04-24 08:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] drpeprfan.livejournal.com
That's a really good idea about the franchise movies for your second book (which I would buy, without hesitation, because you are that amazing at this). The only ideas I could think of for movies to do would be maybe the Zorro movies (The Legend of Zorro recently, I have no idea if there's going to be another) and Ocean's Eleven/Twelve (yeah, I hear there's going to be a Thirteen, woe). I thought about Shrek, but that's already funny, so yeah. I hope either of those helps you. :-)

Date: 2006-04-24 08:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cleolinda.livejournal.com
Hmm, the Zorros are actually good suggestions. I thought the first one was really cute, although the second one, which would be eligible, apparently sucked (didn't see it, don't know). And the Ocean's, yeah, completely eligible--I've managed to get through life without seeing them so far, but they're completely reasonable suggestions. : )

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Date: 2006-04-24 08:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] oohasparklie.livejournal.com
So...what the hell? She's going to get the whole internet riled up and then go, "Teehee just joking!" ? I don't get this at all.

Of course it's none of my business, but it's just supremely asshattish of her to be so cryptic about it when she caused such a fuss.

Date: 2006-04-25 12:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xyla82.livejournal.com
Aye, no matter how she tries to reassure people on her journal, I can't help but feel that we've all been had, or at the very least, there's something supremely dodge going on.

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Date: 2006-04-24 08:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] scotchwhisky.livejournal.com
I love the idea of the franchise movies. I hear there's a sequel in the works for Lemony Snicket, but I don't know; I don't check regularly enough.

And Clerks II is coming up, but I'm not going to suggest that for parody.

Good idea on the niamhstar thing. I'll probably check back to see wtf is up with it, just cause I'm confused, but the whole situation is has been getting way out of hand for a long time now.

Date: 2006-04-24 08:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cleolinda.livejournal.com
Yeah, theoretically Snicket was going to be a series, but it apparently didn't make the kind of money they were expecting. Given that they've made no move to jump on sequels like the Narnia people have--which is important, because they've got ever-aging kids on their hands--I suspect they won't bother. Also, the way they spoiled plot points from future books and rewrote some of the motivations/revelations near the end makes me think they knew they were only getting one shot, so they made a movie that could stand alone.

Do you know, I have actually never seen Clerks (but I feel like I have)?

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Date: 2006-04-24 08:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] redmapletree.livejournal.com
Are they honestly making a movie of The Golden Compass?! That'll be...interesting.

Also, excellent idea about franchise movies. You're brilliant. :)

Date: 2006-04-24 08:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cleolinda.livejournal.com
It's coming out December 2007--apparently a week before Prince Caspian, which, AWKWARD. Although I've heard some rumblings that Caspian might be pushed back to 2008, so I'm not sure. (And I know the religious stuff, or anti-religious as the case may be, has been a big factor in holding the movie up, but they're going through with it now. Last bit of news I saw was a Lyra casting call a couple of weeks ago.)

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Date: 2006-04-24 09:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elvensapphire.livejournal.com
You know, I understand what you mean about Pirates. Honestly, I think it's because it HAS been quoted and parroted back ad nauseam, and thus it's lost a bit of its luster. Not that it isn't still brilliant (particularly Johnny) and a lot of fun, but it has lost a little somethin' somethin'. Still, I'm really looking forward to the sequel.

You don't have to mention this if you don't want to, but this week is Yom Hashoah - Holocaust Remembrance (http://www.adl.org/education/edu_holocaust/default_holocaust.asp), and tomorrow is Holocaust Remembrance Day. I think we're at a place in the world where, more than ever, we ought to pay attention to the eradication of needless prejudices and focus where we can on solidarity.

Date: 2006-04-24 09:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cleolinda.livejournal.com
Yeah, it's lost the sparkle it had when I saw it (three times, shut up) in the theater. I kind of cringe every time I hear him say "Savvy?," but mostly because I've heard so many people try to do the character themselves. But of course, that's useful for me, because it's not sacred anymore.

I will say, someone does have a brilliant icon of Jack looking into his compact compass that says, "Maybe he's born with it--maybe it's Maybelline." I still laugh every time I see that.

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Date: 2006-04-24 09:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ona-tangent.livejournal.com
[livejournal.com profile] niamhstar needs a lawyer to convince her to stop talking. Period. I understand a traumatized mind going to great lengths to make sense of something like that and I understand how painkillers and shock would cause her to be cryptic and weird, but she needs to internalize the words "how would this look in front of a jury" if she really does want to do the "court thing".

Date: 2006-04-24 09:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ona-tangent.livejournal.com
And now...I didn't know you had a second book in the works. Congrats! I love the franchise movies idea.

Date: 2006-04-24 09:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cleolinda.livejournal.com
Yeah, I kind of mentioned it in December or January, but I was trying to lay low about it, and... it still didn't work out. Psyching myself up or out is a full time job, I'm telling you.

Date: 2006-04-24 09:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kalliopeia.livejournal.com
I sit down and freewrite and sort of describe to myself, in present tense, what I see happening. This way I get down dialogue and plot details--and, occasionally, actual turns of phrase--without having the pressure of Writing with a capital W.

....oh my god.

I..I never thought of doing it that way. You mean you imagine the story, and instead of actually like, writing it, you just say (if you were JK Rowling), "Harry is lying in a flowerbed underneath the Dursley's living room window so he can listen to the news for any info on Voldemort, and thinking of how he's been cut off from information about the wizarding world and getting upset about it" etc etc? Kind of like that? And so yo trick yourself into thinking you're not really writing it but you really ARE writing it and then you just go back and pretty it up later?

oh my god! That might work! Oh. My GOD.

You may be my new hero.

Date: 2006-04-24 09:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cleolinda.livejournal.com
Hee. Exactly. I actually get kind of chatty sometimes--"(and this is going to come back later when Harry feels left out later in the blah blah blah)." That way I get to work through the plot and the logic and the emotional psychology, if you want to get that heavy about it, without forgetting what I'm trying to get down because I'm so busy picking the right word. And if I just absolutely get stumped on a concept, I'll just throw in some brackets, like, "he says [menacingly]." Like, don't actually use that word; find something that means that and sounds better in context.

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Date: 2006-04-24 09:28 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] annlarimer.livejournal.com
I like the franchise thing, or just a set of blockbusters from then 'til now like the first book. This would, f'rinstance, give you an excuse to go back and do Men in Black notthatI'mpartialoranything. (On the other hand, I wouldn't make another human being suffer through MIB2 for anything. 'Cause, damn, it sucked.) You could even go back to Jaws and CE3K. After all, the jacket designer parodied The Man with the Golden Arm.

Date: 2006-04-24 09:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] christigilly.livejournal.com
Oh please, oh please, oh please do Serenity!

PS Have you watched any of the Firefy series? If not, you can probably get it online for like 25 bucks (which stinks, because I got it a few months ago for $50). Soooooo funny. I think you'd lurv it.

Date: 2006-04-25 08:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] inner-critic.livejournal.com
Yeah, I was just thinking that you'd like Firefly. Also, Serenity in 15 minutes would be just... wonderful. I'd so love to see that.

Date: 2006-04-24 10:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lily-handmaiden.livejournal.com
I must say, I just saw King Kong for the first time a few days ago, and it must be parodied. Because first they're in Titanic, and then they're in Lost, and then they're in Jurassic Park, and then... she is in love with a giant gorilla.

Date: 2006-04-24 10:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cleolinda.livejournal.com
Yeah, it was an absolute given in my mind that I would do it at some point. : )

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