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"Hey, where's our poster artist?"

"Uh... I think he quit. Said he was tired of doing nothing but rows of giant heads."

"Shit! We've got that new Harry Potter we've got to put out!"

"Look, no big. Just grab Stan over in TV."

THIS FALL ON THE WB...


Four sentences could change whether The Lion, The Witch and The Wardrobe is considered a "Christian" movie.

[livejournal.com profile] finniscs: "hey cleolinda! will you pimp a really cool site called Warsheep Productions-- warsheep.worldhavens.com --cuz its a really cool way to see your fictional characters (novelization, RP gaming, etc.) come to life for a really resonable price. Thanks and I love your writing!"

[livejournal.com profile] dvoid_03: "This is my first linkspam request ever and I'm not sure that this is how you do it, but, I found this site, http://glennferon.com.nyud.net:8090/portfolio1/index.html very amusing. It's a professional retouching business with a gallery of celebrity photos that they've done. When you mouse over them, you can see the original photo. Teh Funneh comes when you see how differen these models are once the retouching is done. It really opens your eyes to just how unrealistic our society's concept of beauty is."


Off to class, bein' cranky. Consider this your Lost discussion entry in case I forget later this afternoon.



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Date: 2005-10-05 06:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shempskaya.livejournal.com
That poster makes Miss Granger look like she should be haunting a truck-stop in Jersey.

Date: 2005-10-05 07:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] genepool23.livejournal.com
And Cedric looks kind of...uneasy. It's like he knows the only reason he's on the poster.

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Date: 2005-10-05 06:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] megalion.livejournal.com
When I first saw the Retouching link... someone posted a comment about having gone with someone to a photo shoot...

"One of the most enlightening experiences of my life had was going on a shoot for the cover of Cosmo with my little sister (the cover model). I saw how really terrible she looked---just gaunt, sick, awful... so skinny that the bones on her rib cage were showing. The stylist explained to me how it was easier to airbrush out the skeletal look than to hire a model who weighed more than sister did...

So, um... yeah... Real models are so skinny that it's scary to look at them & you think you might break them if you hug 'em... So skinny, that they look sick... but it's easy to airbrush that out."


Scary shit eh?

Date: 2005-10-05 06:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] achipiquonque.livejournal.com
It's those few lines in The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe that make me cry, which really is saying something, as I don't cry easily.

That's one of the most uncreative movie posters ever. Not that I'm offended, as I'm not enthused about the movie. I'll see it, but a series changes for you after one of your favorite characters dies and the other goes all wrong. And they use the Prophecy which is used in every single fantasy series ever written, most notably Robert Jordan.

Date: 2005-10-05 07:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mybelle1975.livejournal.com
No offense, but I'm honestly curious. I don't understand people who have lost interest in the HP series after book 6. (Especially the militant H/Hr shippers but we won't go there.)
As for Dumbledore dying, well, I agree with JKR - he had to. It's Harry's story and Harry's journey, and he needs to complete it on his own. The cliche would be in bringing him back to be able to help Harry, a la Gandalf. And I'm guessing you're upset about Snape being the one who "goes all wrong." You can't really say he went all wrong if he was all wrong the whole time. I think there's a possibility Snape may still be keeping us guessing and will do so until the end, and there's a possibility we may never be able to say for certain "Snape was evil," or "Snape was good," or "Snape was just covering his own butt" - I'm not really sure what to think of him yet.
As far as the prophecy, I don't read a whole lot of fantasy books, not anymore anyway, but I like JKR's take on it - the whole self-fulfilling aspect and the fact that it doesn't HAVE to be so - that if they both walked away the prophecy wouldn't come true. Anything else that I have read that included a prophecy didn't really have that take on it, so it's not cliche in that sense. Also, it's a magic world - inhabited by Seers and Centaurs and Time Turners - so to not have prophecies or some sort of knowledge of the future would be rather dubious, wouldn't it?
Basically, I can't imagine the story any other way at this point. Anything that JKR can come up with is so much better than anything I've thought of. This late in the series, there needed to be answers, action, and closure on certain things, and we got those. I like not being able to predict what's to come - I like being so shocked and angry at a character that I scream out loud and nearly launch the book into the furthest wall. That's what makes a great story, IMO.

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Date: 2005-10-05 07:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lotusbiosm.livejournal.com
That poster is so very WB. I was sad that there was no Harry Potter trailer before Serenity. There was Narnia, but no Harry Potter.
Which reminds me- do you, or any of your readers know if they're going to do one movie per Narnia book, if this is the only movie, or if this movie does all the books in one?
Also, Lost, yay!

Date: 2005-10-05 07:13 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] fleurrochard
This movie should only have the story of "The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe". As far as I know Disney has the rights for at least "Prince Caspia" and "The Voyage of the Dawn Treader", but I'm not completely sure about that.

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Date: 2005-10-05 07:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] scornedsaint.livejournal.com
Why does Hermione look like she's wearing Tina Turner's old hair in that poster?

Date: 2005-10-05 08:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] notquiteestella.livejournal.com
I'm more worried about her face. What's with the bloated weird-shadowy look? She looks kind of *cringes even as she says it* pastede on yay.

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Date: 2005-10-05 07:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] serizawa3000.livejournal.com
Looking at the poster and now it's stuck in my head...

"SOMEBODY SAAAAAAAAVE MMMMMMMEEEEEEEEEEE..."

Date: 2005-10-07 04:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] adoresixtyfour.livejournal.com
Oh great, not it's stuck in my head...

"DON'T CARE HOW YA DO IT JUST SAAAAAAVE ME..."


www.adoresixtyfour.com (http://www.adoresixtyfour.com)

Date: 2005-10-05 07:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] word-herder.livejournal.com
It is SO WEIRD to read a Times article that quotes the Bible accurately. This Christian is nonplussed.

Date: 2005-10-05 08:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kookaburra1701.livejournal.com
Ditto. Even if they did reference it oddly. (Letters? The hell? I have NEVER heard the Epistles referred to that way, and I'm about to graduate from a religious college.)

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Date: 2005-10-05 07:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mybelle1975.livejournal.com
You know, the saddest thing about those retouched photos is that a lot of the "before" pictures looked good just the way they were. And some of the airbrushing is so sever that the "afters" just look like cartoon characters.

And the HP poster, well, I'm not thrilled about the photoshopping they did with Hermione - her face and neck are two different colors. When you blow up the poster to full size, it's SO OBVIOUSLY a bad job, even moreso than at the smaller size. Regardless, I'm completely stoked for this movie, it's going to be the best of the first 4 by far.

Date: 2005-10-07 04:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lissa-quon.livejournal.com
I agree, the guy who did those model touch ups is a maniac. Half of those don't even look like photos anymore much less individual people.

And as for the Harry Potter poster...urgh, painful...Hermione's face looks pasted on rather badly.

Date: 2005-10-05 07:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] edda.livejournal.com
The model-pic-retouching thing is both disturbing and addictive.

And I really don't see why TLTW&TW can't be seen in a Christian light without those specific sentences in it, but that's me.

Date: 2005-10-05 08:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] all-ephemera.livejournal.com
there's a retouching link? I'm missing something.

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Ick

Date: 2005-10-05 07:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mouseykins1.livejournal.com
That poster is ick. Literally, they were just like,
"Can we get a wind machine in here?"
"Sorry, we broke it with the last batch of Harry Potter posters."
"Well, we have gel and Photoshop, don't we?"

And I am seriously disturbed by those retouched photos. A lot of the girls look seriously ill. Like, cancer ill.

Date: 2005-10-05 07:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] t4-flirt.livejournal.com
linkspam request...super-addicting helicopter game i found in my husband's games folder last night.

http://www.hurtwood.demon.co.uk/Fun/copter.swf

Date: 2005-10-05 08:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zikade.livejournal.com
*wham* *wham* rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr *wham*

I think I crashed that helicopter five times already, lol

Date: 2005-10-05 07:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] auzrais.livejournal.com
Cool poster. :D

Went to that warsheep-site, page didn't come up.

Interesting pics. They all look all right to me before... but seeing the touched up ones of Vivica Fox and then seeing the original... there's nothing wrong with the original, but the transition makes her look creepy for a split second. :)

warsheep

Date: 2005-10-06 03:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] finniscs.livejournal.com
sorry. try this:

http://warsheep.worldhavens.com/

Re: warsheep

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Date: 2005-10-05 07:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] koritsimou.livejournal.com
That retouching thing made me feel seriously bad for the models. How must it be on your self-esteem when you are gorgeous and they still want to change you?

Plus, Beyonce does have armpit hair. And Vivica Fox is waaaaaay older than anyone suspects.

Date: 2005-10-05 07:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] all-ephemera.livejournal.com
I still think it's worth quite a giggle to hear people discuss if this will be Christian or not. Did anyone read The Screwtape Letters??

Date: 2005-10-05 08:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] koritsimou.livejournal.com
The answer is, "no". Our society, read? Even worse. something thought-provoking? Millions are stickign their fingers in their ears and marching off to watch TV as we speak.

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Date: 2005-10-05 07:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] allthelivesofme.livejournal.com
That is a definitely WB-looking poster. lol I want a wind machine, too, darnit. Just because. ;-)

And it made me do a double-take to see finniscs in a post-- she's my writing partner. LOL

Date: 2005-10-05 08:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theatre-angel.livejournal.com
What happened to Emma's faaaaaaaaace? I am enjoying the typical Nervous Rupert look there, though. And I love the line, "Everything's going to change now, isn't it?"

...This was, essentially, a very pointless comment. XP

Date: 2005-10-05 08:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mybelle1975.livejournal.com
Not to mention, they used pretty much the same line on the Prisoner of Azkaban poster - where it didn't actually belong, IMO.

Date: 2005-10-05 08:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] piscean-warfare.livejournal.com
Hehe... I'm not knocking the show, but I can all too easily imagine that poster saying "Harry Potter and the Vampire Slayer" at the bottom. He does have that "Chosen One" thing going on ^_~

Date: 2005-10-05 08:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kookaburra1701.livejournal.com
If they don't have those lines in Wardrobe, how are they going to explain Aslan's sacrifice and resurrection? That's what I want to know.

Date: 2005-10-05 08:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xlearntoflyx.livejournal.com
I really want to see that model retouching site, but it keeps saying the link is wrong. It's driving me nuts now! It sounded pretty cool. :(

Date: 2005-10-05 09:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mybelle1975.livejournal.com
http://glennferon.com/portfolio1/index.html

That link works.

Date: 2005-10-05 08:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] boarderbunny.livejournal.com
teeheeheehee, you can make their butts dance!

Date: 2005-10-05 08:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] iamthemoon.livejournal.com
Hermione looks FUGLY in that poster.

Date: 2005-10-05 09:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] reannaremick.livejournal.com
Who got Hermoine addicted to heroin? Seriously? Gah. *hides eyes*

Off topic, but IMPORTANT

Date: 2005-10-05 10:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mouseykins1.livejournal.com
OMG KATIE HOLMES IS PREGNANT! Completely off-topic, but I just heard about it. Duuuuude.....weird.

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Date: 2005-10-05 10:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] foresthouse.livejournal.com
Is it Tom's? B/c if so...that's...um...ew.

Date: 2005-10-05 10:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] foresthouse.livejournal.com
On the LWW article:

"But if these key ideas are muddled, the film may be a classic, but never a Christian classic. And its revenues, large as they may be, will reflect that."

I just have to say...um,...WHAT? Like, now to succeed and have repeat viewings the movie has to be Christian??

"Repeat viewings from conservative Christians" may be all well and good, but I know I went to see Charlie and the Chocolate Factory twice and almost three times, and my repeat viewing certainly wasn't because of the religious messages in the film!

*rolls eyes at journalist*

Date: 2005-10-06 12:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dramedy.livejournal.com
I totally agree--I saw C&tCF thrice(and one time was on Imax), and it had nothing to do with my religious affiliation(more to do with my sister's obsession with squirrels...).
if it's a good movie--MORE money will be made than if it's a Passion wannabe.

Date: 2005-10-06 12:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dramedy.livejournal.com
NaRNIAAaa.
*dances*
I saw the trailer in front of serenity, and my sister and i kept hitting each other and squee-ing.
so...do narnia fans have a catchy nickname yet?
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