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Some very interesting personality-type tests--I got them off [livejournal.com profile] hawleygriffen's journal while I was desperately trying to catch up with my f-list. Basically, the premise is that women are wired to empathize and men to systematize. The weird thing is, I scored above average on the reading faces and empathy tests--and above the male average on the systematizing test. But then, I find sorting things--papers, computer files, pictures--to be very relaxing. It's probably more of an obsessive-compulsive thing than anything related to autism--and trust me, I usually get convinced that I have whatever the test is on. But autism and/or Aspberger's is one of the few things I can be dead sure I don't have--I was awkward as a child and a teenager, but I grew up to be way too much of the family diplomat for that, and once I got into college, I had this weird social blossoming. Like, I'm not all that great at parties, and I'm still a little awkward when I first meet you, but I basically forced myself to learn how to have a conversation with strangers. It's easy, actually: keep asking the other person about himself. (I find this works really well with guys. A little too well, if you inadvertently show too much interest, as I did one time at a niddle-school church social with this one guy and his fixation on model airplanes. Yikes.) If you're not familiar with what they're talking about, ask them. Seriously, I've talked to people I didn't even know that well for hours with this technique in mind. Anyway. If I could stop freezing up every time someone asked, "How are you?" ("I'm... uh... you know ... tired... busy... HOW ARE YOU??"), I could rule the world.


Reading the mind in the eyes

Your score: 31
A typical score is in the range 22-30. If you scored over 30,
you are very accurate at decoding a person's facial expressions
around their eyes. A score under 22 indicates you find this quite difficult.


Systematizing quotient

Your score: 31
0 - 19 = low
20 - 39 = average (most women score about 24 and most men score about 30)
40 - 50 = above average (most people with Asperger Syndrome or high-functioning autism score in this range)
51 - 80 is very high (three times as many people with Asperger Syndrome score in this range, compared to typical men, and almost no women score in this range)
80 is maximum


Empathy quotient test

Your score: 56
0 - 32 = low (most people with Asperger Syndrome or high-functioning autism score about 20)
33 - 52 = average (most women score about 47 and most men score about 42)
53 - 63 is above average
64 - 80 is very high
80 is maximum


Autism Spectrum quotient

Your score: 15
0 - 10 = low
11 - 22 = average (most women score about 15 and most men score about 17)
23 - 31 = above average
32 - 50 is very high (most people with Asperger Syndrome or high-functioning autism score about 35)
50 is maximum

In other news--well, after that little tangent, it should not surprise you to find out that I have a Phear of Phones. In fact, the last time we discussed this, I discovered that tons of y'all have similar Phone Phreakouts. This weekend I ended up having to have extended conversations with my grandmother (which is fine; it's more of a struggle to keep talking) and my great-aunt, so that was sort of practice. (Great-aunt is Cindy the set decorator's mother, btw; Cindy is between jobs at the moment, having just finished that Bruce Willis movie--Hostage?--but her husband is apparently in Mexico working on The Mask of Zorro 2. I have an unholy affection for the first movie, so this is v. v. exciting.) Anyway. I am expecting at least one major business phone call this week, maybe two, and--PHEAR. PH34R!

You have to remember, prior to this, my idea of a "business phone call" was "Thank you for calling Movie Gallery, how may I help you?" And now I'm expecting a call from friggin' London. Hi, I'm a scared little white Southern girl, how can you help me?

Date: 2004-06-13 10:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wintersweet.livejournal.com
Your scores are the closest to mine I've seen so far. Very random.

I made a bunch of icons by the same artist you have here. I really wanted to get an artbook of hers while I was in Japan, but I never found one.

Date: 2004-06-13 10:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cleolinda.livejournal.com
Reiko Shimizu? I want her Miracle tarot SO BAD. In fact, I think that's what the icon's from--the Queen of Swords, I think. I've seen a lot of her work online and I love love love it.

Re: Ask and you shall recieve

Date: 2004-06-13 10:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] iczer6.livejournal.com
http://www.tarotgarden.com/database/dbsearchengine.php?search_type=instock&pageenter=51

I don't know if it's in stock but it's worth a shot.

Date: 2004-06-14 09:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wintersweet.livejournal.com
Yeah, she's amazing. I tried to make icons from some of the tarot cards but the sources I had were too low-res. Ah well.

Date: 2004-06-13 10:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/___destijl/
This has nothing to do with anything, but do you have any screencaps of PoA when they Gryffindor boys are doing their animal thang? I have a Seamus/Ron OTP that needs to be satisfied.

Date: 2004-06-13 10:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cleolinda.livejournal.com
You know, I wish I did. You might try [livejournal.com profile] cap_it and see if they have any.

Date: 2004-06-13 10:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/___destijl/
Ahh, thanks so much. Will do.

Date: 2004-06-13 10:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] iczer6.livejournal.com
I got a 24 on that test...

Is that bad?

No offense but why are you scared of phones?

Date: 2004-06-13 10:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cleolinda.livejournal.com
It's a social phobia, basically--I'm not afraid of the physical phone, like the receiver would eat my face or something. I mean, I am totally fine if my cell rings and it's family or friends. I'm just really weird about having to call or talk to people I don't know well--having to make cold sales calls is pretty much my idea of hell. Phone calls just make me nervous in general, I think.

Date: 2004-06-13 10:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] iczer6.livejournal.com
I understand that, hell I feel the same way, I hate it when people want to me to talk to relatives I haven't seen in years.

What am I supposed to talk about?

Date: 2004-06-14 04:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kotszok.livejournal.com
I read something about that in some random text we were preparing for classes... do you have a problem with answering machines? Because I read that some people just freeze when they get the AM.

Date: 2004-06-14 08:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] word-herder.livejournal.com
I often find it a relief when I get the answering machine. I hate talking to people on the phone, even family members. The only person I'm really comfortable talking to via phone is my sister. My husband thinks I'm decidedly odd.

Date: 2004-06-14 08:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kotszok.livejournal.com
LOL! I'm always scared I'm going to sound weird on the answering machine and I jumble up what I say!!

Tho it is in a way better than talking to someone. Depends who, of course. Official call are the worst. Yech.

Date: 2004-06-13 10:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] takekammuri.livejournal.com
You know... I've been reading your journal for some period of time now and, like, YOU'RE FROM THE SOUTH?

Wow, yet another opportunity to remind myself that to every stereotype there are some outliers.

Date: 2004-06-14 06:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cleolinda.livejournal.com
Hee. How'd you miss that one? I mention it every couple of entries. Birmingham, Alabama, in fact--Deep Deep Deep South.

I've said for a long time that I don't want to leave and go someplace "better" once I get my master's, because that's why things suck the way they already do--we need creative, talented people (of which we already have several--only there aren't as many outlets for them as there could be) to stay and keep working here.

Date: 2004-06-14 08:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] takekammuri.livejournal.com
I was thinking... Birmingham, United Kingdom... *embarassed*

Date: 2004-06-14 08:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cleolinda.livejournal.com
Ah! At least that makes sense. That's happened more than once. :)

Date: 2004-06-13 11:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rexmanning.livejournal.com
60 in Empathy! I am so way empatheticer than you!

Actually, I was surprised by how low that was, because people tell me all the time that I'm empathetic to a fault.

Date: 2004-06-14 06:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cleolinda.livejournal.com
Whoa. 60 is *high*--I don't know how you manage to make it through the day, man. I can't even go into pet stores or shelters anymore because seeing all the animals makes me cry, and I got, like, half your score.

Date: 2004-06-13 11:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ringwraithe.livejournal.com
MIGOSH, there's a Mask of Zorro 2? Aieee! I had an unreasonable obsession with the first one, I'd get up at any hour if it was on HBO...heh. Egad, I had no idea there was a sequel! *squeedance* does it have Antonio Banderas?

...now that that's out of my system...

Gah, talking to aunts/great-aunts/whatevers can be a royal pain if you don't know what to say. Funnily enough, I have no problem at all talking to more obscure relatives from Australia, France etc...or my uncles. Come to that, I'm not very good at talking to most girls on the phone. Comes from spending three years with guys.

*rambles*

Date: 2004-06-14 01:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alitaorg.livejournal.com
working as a customer service type for four years totally taught me that. i've learned how to placate total strangers by carrying on with idle banter. so, as a rule, if i don't care who someone is i can have a nice conversation with them. however, if it's someone i really want to impress, i do still get retarded. yay.

Date: 2004-06-14 01:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] edda.livejournal.com
I'm a scared little white Southern girl, how can you help me?

And do all those floods of books by/about Southern women--excuse me, belles--and how we're just always glammed up and full of pluck and grit (and grits) and fire and sass and practically a sub-nation of Scarletts just make you feel a stranger in your own region?

I'm not a belle, and I'm not fearless, and I'm not an adult about my fearlessness, either. I'm a big wailing kid. I'll hold your hand while you're on the phone, metaphorically speaking, at least. Phone calls don't worry me per se but I have plenty of my own freakouts.

Date: 2004-06-14 01:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] regina-terra.livejournal.com
Systematizing quotient

51 - 80 is very high (three times as many people with Asperger Syndrome score in this range, compared to typical men, and almost no women score in this range)


Um, I'm a woman and I got a 53 on this one. Should I be worried? Or just accept this as further proof that I'm slightly off my rocker?

Date: 2004-06-14 06:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cleolinda.livejournal.com
Hmm. Well, what kind of questions did you identify with? Mine were things like, "I want to know the names of the plants I see," "I like games involving strategy" (because I'm no good on timed or hand-eye coordination things), I notice how things are structured, etc. Given that I'm a writer and I'm prone to nosing around and researching things, it seemed perfectly normal to me.

What was your empathy score? I wouldn't be worried about Aspberger's unless you *also* scored very low in social skills.

Date: 2004-06-14 07:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] regina-terra.livejournal.com
I didn't take the empathy one, the link didn't work right. But considering the fact that I'm a music major with a chemistry minor, and something of a recovering child prodify where math is concerned, I suppose I really shouldn't be all that surprised. Structure is a big thing in all three disciplines.

Date: 2004-06-16 05:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bobjanova.livejournal.com
If you go to 'Return to the home page' from any of the other tests, you can get to the emp test (LJ by cut-and-paste is responsible for this one I reckon!) I wish I hadn't discovered that, cos I got 24 on the emp one, lol!
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Date: 2004-06-14 06:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cleolinda.livejournal.com
What? Is she afraid he's going to fall into the lion pit or something?

I'm sure you have a lovely mother. But between that and the baby in the supermarket... she may be the one with the unusual reactions. I don't know that it's you at all.

Date: 2004-06-14 02:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] seraphina-pyra.livejournal.com
I too ph34r phones. I hate having to answer the phone.

Pyra

Date: 2004-06-14 03:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] katiefoolery.livejournal.com
They'll love your accent, you'll love theirs, you'll all be bathing in a lovely warm tub of mutual accent affection and all will be well.

Date: 2004-06-14 07:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hawleygriffen.livejournal.com
Speaking as a brit, what [livejournal.com profile] buneater said. Of course, I don't know what your accent is like, [livejournal.com profile] cleolinda, but I bet it's lovely.

Date: 2004-06-14 07:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cleolinda.livejournal.com
Awww. Well, I'm from Alabama, so you can imagine.

Date: 2004-06-14 09:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hawleygriffen.livejournal.com
Well, my most recent experience of Alabama was a Reese Witherspoon movie, so I really can't. But, if it's anything like that, I go back to what [livejournal.com profile] buneater said. *g*

Oh, and total sympathy on the important phone thing. Maybe a little stress toy/ball would help during the call. Hold the phone in one hand and that in the other. :)

Of course, it being London, a very culturally mixed up place, you never know, you might ending up talking to a fellow southerner.

Date: 2004-06-14 11:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cleolinda.livejournal.com
AHHHH, GOD, THAT MOVIE. Well, as long as you're not imagining the accents from Steel Magnolias, I guess we're okay. I'd love to do a phone post, but there aren't any numbers up for my part of the country. Dammit.

Maybe a little stress toy/ball would help during the call

*squeeeeeeeeeze*

Date: 2004-06-14 12:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hawleygriffen.livejournal.com
AHHHH, GOD, THAT MOVIE.

*cackles*

Well, as long as you're not imagining the accents from Steel Magnolias, I guess we're okay.

I think when I last saw that movies, some ljers were not even born, yet. :)

Date: 2004-06-14 04:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ceciliadoll.livejournal.com
I too suffer from the phone phear. When I was younger I wouldn't even go near the phone. Now I can, but only if I absolutely must. Horrible things!

Date: 2004-06-14 05:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wock.livejournal.com
Before you get too concerned with your scores, consider that (1) it's not a well-controlled test and (2) college students score VERY high on scales having to do with this sort of behavior.

When I was in grad school- yes, studying psychology- we learned that grad students typically go off the scale on the MMPI Hs ("hysteria") scale. That doesn't mean that grad students are classic hysterics; it means that that sort of behavior is adaptive if you're in grad school.

Date: 2004-06-14 05:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fuchsoid.livejournal.com
I'm with you on the phone thing - I tend to put off any calls to strangers that aren't absolutely vital for ages. Maybe it's because you get no visual clues from the person on the other end, so the conversation has to start completely cold.

Date: 2004-06-14 05:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wock.livejournal.com
One other note:

I went back and looked at the individual items on the tests and I strongly suspect that a very few of the questions have the highest item validity. For instance, consider this item:

"When I talk on the phone, I'm not sure when it's my turn to speak."

Most of us have no problem with that task. Agreeing with it would be a very strong marker for autism.

Almost all the questions were fairly transparent. The ones that woould coirrelate with autism would be those that indicate an inability to do "mind reading"- that is, an inability to read the mental states of others, something we all do every day in social interaction.

Date: 2004-06-14 08:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] word-herder.livejournal.com
I'm not all that great at parties, and I'm still a little awkward when I first meet you, but I basically forced myself to learn how to have a conversation with strangers. It's easy, actually: keep asking the other person about himself.

This is exactly how I survive social situations. I don't know why, but I can't seem to allow myself to be easy and open when I'm around people, even ones with whom I'm acquainted. There are only a few people who could claim that they know me well.

Date: 2004-06-14 10:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vaguelyweird.livejournal.com
Hey well, apparently I am like an avaerge man (http://www.livejournal.com/users/vaguelyweird/37891.html).

Date: 2004-06-14 06:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kvschwartz.livejournal.com
I am aphraid of phones too.

*kicks phone*

Date: 2004-06-14 06:57 pm (UTC)

Phone Phear

Date: 2004-06-14 08:55 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I too have a phear of phones. Bad thing is, part of my job (band/orchestra instrument sales) requires me to call people renting instruments from us and strike up conversation. Just a 'hi, how's it going, does little Joey/Janey like playing their trumpet/cello/whatever...' Theoretically (not sure if I spelled that right - my apologies to the Grammar Gods), this builds a relationship that leads to them buying better (read: expensive) instruments on down the road.

But I hate cold-calling people, so I wait for a reason to call (end of school, for instance). Still, it's mildly awkward. I do find my awkwardness helps break the ice - they know I'm not trying to be slick and sell them anything.

Changing subject: I found out today my lil' sis might need dialysis, so I needed cheering up some. Thanks!

Lori

Re: Phone Phear

Date: 2004-06-14 08:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cleolinda.livejournal.com
Awww--glad I could do something, then. Best wishes for your sister.
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