Halp!

Nov. 22nd, 2009 06:43 pm
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[personal profile] cleolinda
Okay, problem: I am trying to move music from my computer to the iPhone (and vice versa, now that I think about it), and I'm not finding a way to do so without just doing a blanket sync. The problem with this is that I have music on the phone that I don't want to get wiped and would, in fact, like to transfer to the computer, but I also have music on the computer that I'd like to move to the phone. (Moving recently purchased music was not a problem. We are talking about music that iTunes does not recognize as purchased because it wasn't purchased from them.)

The thing is, I have moved music both ways before on the other computer, so I'm confused because I'm not seeing similar options on my setup. The help section did mention something about only being able to do whatever on one computer--if that's the problem, is there a way to, I don't know, "revoke" the doingness from the other computer and tell iTunes that Lizzie is the one computer my phone needs to sync with?

(OMG WHY IS THIS SO HARD)


ETA: YAY! EphPod/CopyTrans turned out to be a snap.


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Date: 2009-11-23 12:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] laura47.livejournal.com
i used a program called senuti, itunes backwards, for a normal ipod. checks your ipod music against your computer and lets you add all the non-duplicates. or duplicates if you want them.


Date: 2009-11-23 01:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hazakaza.livejournal.com
Definitely this! Senuti is awesome.

Date: 2009-11-23 01:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hexatomic.livejournal.com
Sadly, last I knew, senuti was Mac-only. I have lots of recs if Cleo were using OSX.

Date: 2009-11-23 01:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] darth-snarky.livejournal.com
(Love the icon.)

Senuti is Mac-only. I've heard pretty good things about Pod to PC (http://www.podtopc.com/) (there are reviews of it here (http://download.cnet.com/Pod-to-PC/3000-18545_4-10900147.html)), which is supposed to do the same thing.

Cleo--good luck! It was a damn nusiance getting music off my iPod and onto my new laptop after my old laptop died.

Date: 2009-11-23 12:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] metonymy.livejournal.com
(OMG WHY IS THIS SO HARD)

Because Apple?

Date: 2009-11-23 12:49 am (UTC)
elbales: (Insert brain!Four)
From: [personal profile] elbales
Pffft. I find Windows totally incomprehensible. OK OBLIGATORY WINDOWS-VS-MAC CATFIGHT COMMENT ALL DONE NOW KTHX. ;)

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Date: 2009-11-23 12:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] star98hope.livejournal.com
You can "authorize" more than one computer to play DRM files from the iTunes store; you can make the change in your iTunes account settings. Though, I'm not sure that's exactly what's causing the problem.....

Date: 2009-11-23 12:55 am (UTC)
elbales: (Geek Dualla - BSG)
From: [personal profile] elbales
Yeah, me neither, but properly authorizing Lizzie would be a good first step, I think.

Stupid DRM.

Date: 2009-11-23 12:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] byakuya-chan.livejournal.com
Not true. I managed to authorize two computers to use my iTunes account. :)

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Date: 2009-11-23 01:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cleolinda.livejournal.com
Yeah, I already authorized the computer to use the iTunes account; I'm not sure if you're allowed to do iPhone stuff in general on more than one comp.

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Date: 2009-11-23 12:53 am (UTC)
elbales: (Geek Dualla - BSG)
From: [personal profile] elbales
Cleo, try this:

In iTunes, under the Store menu, look for Deauthorize Computer. You should be able to use that selection, along with Authorize Computer (found just above it) to tell iTunes that Betsy is No Longer With Us and to authorize Lizzie as your One True iTunes Love.

Try that and see if your options make more sense afterward.

Date: 2009-11-23 12:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] particle-person.livejournal.com
This.

Also, you should be able to sync individual songs (according to [livejournal.com profile] vwlphb) by just dragging the .mp3 file to the iTunes icon while your phone is plugged in. I've never tried doing it that way, though.

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Date: 2009-11-23 03:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] diddakoi.livejournal.com
If I am on my current computer, and want to deauthorize my dead computer doorstop, will clicking "deauthorize computer" allow me to specify a computer or will it assume I mean the one I'm currently on? Because I need to keep the one I'm currently on.

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Date: 2009-11-23 01:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] divajess.livejournal.com
You will need software in order to copy from the iPhone to the computer, unfortunately. I use a Mac but I know on Windows my friends have used SharePod. It's free and lets you import stuff directly into iTunes.

http://www.getsharepod.com/

Date: 2009-11-23 01:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] salute77.livejournal.com
If you haven't already found a solution yet, Cleo, I also used Sharepod to do the exact same thing with a family member's ipod touch and was successful in transferring everything, including videos using Sharepod. (freeeee) Good luck!

Date: 2009-11-23 01:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zhymmy.livejournal.com
If you're looking to copy files each way that you've either ripped yourself or downloaded from somewhere other than iTunes store, it's actually possible and you don't need other software.

Here's what you do:
In Itunes, go to Settings and (I think it's the last tab), find the option to use your iphone/ipod as an external hard drive. This requires disabling the auto-sync function.
Also, make sure you have the "Manage my music folder" option checked.
Now, in Windows Control Panel (assuming you have Windows 7 which I think I read), find "Folder Options" (might be easiest to search on it).
Click the View tab, and in the Advanced Settings, check "Show hidden files, folders, and drives". Hit OK.
Hook up your iPhone, go to My Computer and then open the drive that Windows shows for the iPhone.
Drill down through the folders until you find the "Music" folder - you'll see a bunch of folders named something like KQMC and PRLF and such. Tada, you have found the hidden music on your iPhone.

Just drag this over to your computer's hard drive, and then use the iTunes folder import function to add everything. iTunes will automatically move the files into your music folder, and use the embedded file tags to name everything correctly in your library.

To sync from your computer to iPhone, just open itunes and select the songs you want to sync, and drag them to your iPhone icon.

Date: 2009-11-23 01:18 am (UTC)
elbales: (Kaylee  :D)
From: [personal profile] elbales
Rock! See, one place where Windows does something I wish Apple would do. There is no one true way, yo. ;)
Edited Date: 2009-11-23 01:18 am (UTC)

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Date: 2009-11-23 01:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lady-moriel.livejournal.com
I've only done this with an iPod Classic, but I assume the process with an iPhone would be similar. What you want to do is get everything from your iPhone onto Lizzie (and into iTunes there) and then you'll be able to sync with no problems, even if it replaces everything or whatever--and yeah, authorizing Lizzie and deauthorizing Betsy, if the latter is even possible at this point, would definitely help.

Anyway, for actually transferring the music files, there are a few different ways to do it. I actually wrote up a quickie article on this at Advice.com, so I will just point you there (http://www.advice.com/article/2009/07/28/Advice+on+transferring+music+from+iPod+to+computer). Like I said, I don't know for certain if it's the same with an iPhone, but...probably? I assume any of the programs like EphPod would be the same, even if the manual method isn't identical.

Date: 2009-11-23 01:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zhymmy.livejournal.com
hehe. Method two is just about what I just posted. I've used it with just about every version of the ipod and it's worked, and a friend of mine said it's the same with the iphone.

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Date: 2009-11-23 01:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fxchip.livejournal.com
You're going to need special software, and that software actually needs to specify directly that it works with iPhones because stuff that works with iPods in general is probably relying on the fact that most iPods present themselves as mass storage devices (i.e. hard drives). The iPhone doesn't do this so much on its own (or at least if it does I haven't really heard of it). Instead, iPhone and iTunes have a legitimately proprietary protocol (actually a suite of them) specifically for communicating over the wire and doing all of the things you expect them to do. There's protocols for backup, restore, syncing media, activation with AT&T, everything even right down to the nice little "sync in progress" screen.

So you're going to need a program that can either 1.) speak those protocols as well as iTunes (this is possible and I'm certain it's been done on Windows) or 2.) hijack iTunes (or a specific library of it to be precise) into speaking the protocol for it while it handles all the other crap. I'm not really familiar with any programs that might do this on Windows; I hear DoubleTwist can do it fairly well on the Mac; and gtkpod with libiphone and gvfs (GNOME) will do it on Linux, I think.

(full disclosure: I wrote a pretty decently-sized portion of the first few versions of libiphone, but most of my code has been rewritten :) the joys of open source)

Date: 2009-11-23 01:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lunakitten.livejournal.com
After my massive hard drive death, I had to add back files that I knew iTunes wouldn't like. So I loaded Winamp, and had it pull everything off my iTouch, then deleted that and loaded iTunes.

Date: 2009-11-23 02:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] angelly-bean.livejournal.com
hi, just added you! i like that you update on a fairly regular basis and ineed more reading material that is no Facebook-burps status updates!

and i see you wrote some True Blood recaps, woo-hoo! loves.

Date: 2009-11-23 02:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cleolinda.livejournal.com
I still have to finish the first season recaps, unfortunately. Maybe in the next two months or so.

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Date: 2009-11-23 02:37 am (UTC)
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Hi, this is my first time actually commenting. And I know this is completely random and off topic, but I wasn't sure if you'd seen this.

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Apparently there is one for Pride and Prejudice and Romeo and Juliet, too.

I don't know how I feel about it.

Date: 2009-11-23 02:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cherrymaryberry.livejournal.com
WHAT?!?!?!?!?!

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Date: 2009-11-23 03:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] summer-breeze01.livejournal.com
I've been lurking for a couple of months but I finally decided to add you just so I don't have to spend the extra 10 seconds to type in your URL and have it load to get to your posts. XD

And I can't help you with your current problem because I have a Mac and I manually manage my music, but I see you've solved it anyway, so yay!

Date: 2009-11-23 03:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] diddakoi.livejournal.com
I'm probably the trillionth person to tell you this, but my philosophy is to turn off syncing as soon as I buy my iPod and never do it again. It's usually not that hard to manually transfer things, and you never have to worry about anything getting wiped.

Date: 2009-11-23 03:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] diddakoi.livejournal.com
However, this is assuming that iPhones operate in the same way. I know nothing about the black magic.

Date: 2009-11-23 05:59 am (UTC)
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Completely unrelated:

My friend dressed up as Bella for Halloween. She dubs the growth "CullenSpawn" (http://photos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs097.snc3/16450_1289225832785_1294390243_30860070_3213545_n.jpg).

Date: 2009-11-23 06:19 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] elbales
OMG THAT IS SO GENIUS WRONG
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