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Okay, I have seen The Da Vinci Code, which has already grossed more money worldwide on its opening weekend than Revenge of the Sith did. It was... less boring than I expected. Actually, since we're talking about Star Wars already, I spent a good deal of the Obi-Wan Fights a Coughing Sith Droid While Riding a Chinese Dragon sequence hoping for death, since sleep was impossible at that noise level. It just seemed to go on and on and on, lightsaber fight after lightsaber fight and where are we, again? Why are we here? Why do I care? Well, The Da Vinci Code did not make me pray for death. I stayed awake the whole time. I liked the score, because I have a weakness for Hans Zimmer (and it reminded me of the score he did for Hannibal, actually, although with less lovelorn cannibal opera). The movie is, however, talky as all hell; pack a lunch for the scene where Ian McKellen goes to town on The Last Supper. I guess I'd heard so much about it that I was expecting it to be far, far worse. I would be perfectly happy never seeing it again (as opposed to MI3, where I actually did want to see it again, particularly on a big screen), but I don't feel like I wasted my money. You could wait for this one on DVD and not miss much. Spoilers, in case you want to satisfy your curiosity: McKellen/Teabing is the Teacher. He collaborated with "the enemy," Opus Dei, which was trying to kill off the guardians of the Grail secret--members of the Priory of Sion--so that no one would ever find out that Mary Magdalene was Jesus's babymama. Except that Teabing does want everyone to find out so that the world will be freed from the oppression of the Catholic church. So he was using Opus Dei to get his hands on the cryptex which reveals where the tomb of Mary Magdalene (aka "the Grail") is, which would provide "empirical proof" of who her descendants are. Now, how they're going to prove they're Jesus's descendants, I don't know. The solution to the cryptex is APPLE--I think I heard that in the book it was actually SOFIA--because Sir Isaac Newton member of the Priory of Sion lots of orbs apple fall on his head blah blah blee. Langdon tricks Teabing into thinking he (Langdon) guessed the wrong combination--therefore destroying the parchment inside the cryptex--but removes it first, and he and Sophie go to the church of Ros[e]lin[e] to discover that... the tomb ain't there, but Sophie's the last descendant of Christ, and Langdon's all like, "Well, shit, I can't tap that now," and he suddenly realizes apropos of nothing in particular ("I cut myself shaving! Blood line! Rose line! I know! THE LOUVRE!") that Mary Magdalene's tomb is hidden under the Louvre pyramids, where... pretty much no one will ever get to it. Woe.

"Idol" sends "Lost" to new ratings low. Well, shit, people! Look, Taylor's going to win. And I'm not just saying that because we're both from Birmingham; I can't even figure out how he got this far. But we all know he's going to win!  This is not a big surprise! Tivo Idol and watch Lost, for God's sake! Our favorite Scirishman will be back! Also, there will be robot pirate ninjas. Well, I don't actually know that there will be, but of the two shows, which one do you think would be able to deliver on that promise?

Elizabeth: The Golden Age. These are on-set shots from--Thursday, I think? I am stupid excited about this. Also, please notice what has got to be Clive Owen (playing Walter Raleigh) laying down his cloak for Her Cateness. Also, Geoffrey Rush appears to be back as Barbossingham Walsingham as well.

Question: I know that the ruffly-pleaty thing around her neckline is called a ruff. But what do you call the transparent veily thing on the giant heart-shaped frame behind her?

Excellent V/15M text icons from [livejournal.com profile] madamtorsion.

Dreamgirls clips set Cannes on fire.

And then they made him their chief: more POTC2 stills.

More stills: Miami Vice, Superman Returns, Lady in the Water (plus a poster).

And now I'm off to write up my notes, of which there are many, because it was a long damn movie.


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Date: 2006-05-22 03:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anne-jumps.livejournal.com
Hold up; there's a sequel to Elizabeth? My dad will be so excited.

Date: 2006-05-22 03:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cleolinda.livejournal.com
Yes! Same director, even! I'd heard about it for so long but they are finally making it! eeeeeeeeee.

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Date: 2006-05-22 03:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lezopez.livejournal.com
You know, I'm pretty sure in the book Langdon hits that shit anyway. Wouldn't you?

Date: 2006-05-22 03:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cleolinda.livejournal.com
Amelie Christ? Hell yeah.

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Date: 2006-05-22 03:51 am (UTC)
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Dreamgirls link is wonky.

Date: 2006-05-22 03:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cleolinda.livejournal.com
Of course it is. I'd had one whole entry free of hinky links. (sadface)

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Date: 2006-05-22 03:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wildcatlizzie.livejournal.com
There are actually two cryptexes in the book. The solution to the first one is SOFIA. The second one is APPLE.

And in the book, the Rosslyn Chapel actually leads them no where other than to Sophie's remaining family. Langdon realizes later that the solution to the riddle was the Louvre pyramids.

I've read the book three times and written a couple papers on it. I know a lot of these things off the top of my head now.

And Ian McKellen totally made this movie for me. I adored it when he was going to town with The Last Supper. In fact, a display/projection system like that would way fun. Or at least I think it would.

Date: 2006-05-22 03:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lezopez.livejournal.com
Teabing totally had mad Photoshop skillz

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Date: 2006-05-22 04:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kilted.livejournal.com
UGH. I had to put together this giant cardboard stand-up for Miami Vice the other day at work. Pain in the butt...

Date: 2006-05-22 04:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] auraesque.livejournal.com
There might be robot pirate ninjas, but what about robot pirate ninjas riding dinosaurs?

I liked the movie Davinci Code better than I liked the novel, but I hated the book...so I suppose that's not saying much. But Audrey Tautou = love.

Date: 2006-05-22 04:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] arielchan.livejournal.com
The text icon links lead to the Superman screencaps.

Date: 2006-05-22 04:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cleolinda.livejournal.com
I hate Semagic.

Date: 2006-05-22 04:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] outinthestorm.livejournal.com
I am having no end of trouble with your links. Are the V15m links supposed to go to Superman returns? And the POTC2 link goes to Cate Blanchett's site, as does the Miami Vice link.

Date: 2006-05-22 04:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cleolinda.livejournal.com
It's a Semagic issue. I'm trying to get all of them fixed.

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Date: 2006-05-22 04:19 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] reynardine.livejournal.com
Not for sure, but I think that veil-thing on the frame is supposed to be a cloak of some kind, except the designer is really using artistic license. But then, the costumes in Elizabeth weren't totally authentic either--the bits of silk wrapped around sari-style and that sort of thing? Nope. The Tudors were downright dowdy--reference Lady Jane (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0091374/), which WAS good on its costumes.

I think the wire frame is so it'll show correctly for the camera? Anyway, actual info about Elizabethan clothing can be found here (http://www.elizabethan-era.org.uk/elizabethan-clothing.htm).

(Not to say I have a problem with Elizabeth--that's part of the designer's role, to make historical costumes interesting to modern viewers, yet keep them recognizable as historical).

Date: 2006-05-22 04:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cleolinda.livejournal.com
Nah, I actually have a jpg of a Mary, Queen of Scots painting with a very similar veily thing. I've seen them in portraits from the era (i.e., painted from life); I just don't know what they're called.

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Date: 2006-05-22 04:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sapphires13.livejournal.com
I've solved the Lost-Idol crunch by simply hoping for a Lost commercial break at just the right time, and flipping over. Really, only a few minutes of the results show of American Idol really matter, at least to me.

Date: 2006-05-22 04:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alpheratz.livejournal.com
So do they come across a Mysterious Script that turns out to be backwards writing, but they only figure it out half an hour later?

Date: 2006-05-22 04:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cleolinda.livejournal.com
Actually, they recognize it immediately.

No, I am not kidding. "I know! I'll encode this by having it engraved backwards, because NO ONE will have a mirror! GENIUS."

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Date: 2006-05-22 04:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] almostnever.livejournal.com
Sophie's the last descendant of Christ

That's hilarious! Some movie critic who hadn't read the books or seen the film yet guessed that would be the main plot twist, and I was all: "...Oh man. Of COURSE she is. How else would she rate being on the poster with His Hankitude?"

Date: 2006-05-22 04:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cleolinda.livejournal.com
Also, I'm not sure how people didn't guess the villain sooner, given that you can HEAR HIS VOICE when people talk to him on the phone. That, and there's the theory of limited characters--an unidentified character will almost never be someone you've never seen before. Descendant of Christ? Gotta be Langdon or Sophie, and more likely to be Sophie because she's French, if that's where MM is buried.

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Date: 2006-05-22 04:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sawcat.livejournal.com
the ruffy thing might be a wing collar or a hybrid of the two, according to This book here (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0500277915/qid=1148270456/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/102-9653112-7755336?s=books&v=glance&n=283155)

Unless it's an open ruff and the heart shape is a wing collar. It's like these in Shakespeare In Love (http://www.costumersguide.com/shakespeare/gold15.jpg), whatever they are

Date: 2006-05-22 04:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cleolinda.livejournal.com
Wing collar, is that what it's called? Here's another example--open ruff and then the heart shape, transparent, behind it: http://www.tudor-portraits.com/Elizabeth14.jpg

Date: 2006-05-22 04:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] caitlen.livejournal.com
I have to agree - Taylor's gonna win. As I sat down and watched all the prelims months ago, I remember talking them over with the woman I was watching them with and when it came to Taylor, we disagreed. I said he'd make it through to the end, and she didn't.

GO TAYLOR!!!!!

Date: 2006-05-22 02:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] georgie21.livejournal.com
I'm torn between Catherine and Taylor. But Catherine is a professional singer, and I don't think anyone really knows what she's doing there - so, yeah, Taylor's going to win.

(You know what would be really funny? If Catherine was already voted off. I haven't watched American Idol lately.)

Date: 2006-05-22 04:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] apocalyptically.livejournal.com
I love Cate and Clive, but I'm having a hard time picturing them onscreen together. She's so ethereal, and he's so... earthy.

I didn't really like Tom Hanks as Robert Langdon. Also, he had no chemistry with Audrey at all. There was more energy between her and SILAS, for Christ's sake (teehee).

Date: 2006-05-23 01:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] suitcasegnome.livejournal.com
Well, when it's between Paul Bettany and Tom Hanks, I know who *I* would be more inclined towards... :)

Date: 2006-05-22 04:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] particle-person.livejournal.com
Have you seen the Dialect Survey (http://cfprod01.imt.uwm.edu/Dept/FLL/linguistics/dialect/maps.html) of North American English? Very, very, very cool.

What word(s) do you use to address a group of two or more people? (http://cfprod01.imt.uwm.edu/Dept/FLL/linguistics/dialect/staticmaps/q_50.html) (Percentages and maps at the link.)

a. you all
b. yous, youse
c. you lot
d. you guys
e. you 'uns
f. yins
g. you
h. other
i. y'all

Did you know that some 0.02% of the U.S. says "peenie wallie" instead of firefly/lightening bug?

Date: 2006-05-22 05:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] particle-person.livejournal.com
Okay, 0.02% = 6 million people. What if Joss Whedon had made a show called Peenie Wallie?

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Date: 2006-05-22 04:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] txvoodoo.livejournal.com
I lack your academic credentials, but have had an unhealthy obsession with historical costume for about 30 years ;) (do NOT tell but about 25 years ago I stole a book from a library because I COULDN'T BUY IT ANYWHERE. If the library hadn't closed, I would rebuy it on alibris now :D)

In any case, I'm pretty sure it's called a neck wisk (or possibly whisk)? As with many of the accoutrements to gowns at the time, it was attached independently of the dress, formed of stiffened gauze, sometimes silk gauze, and the more elaborate ones shaped with wires. They only emerged later in the Elizabethan era, along with stiff ruffs, as prior to that time, they didn't have starch.

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Date: 2006-05-22 04:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] txvoodoo.livejournal.com
HOLY SHIT HOW DID I MISS THE ENTIRE THING ABOUT THEM MAKING AN ELIZABETH PART 2 OMG OMG OMG *RUNS IN CIRCLES DIES*

*revives*

It's called a Neck Wisk.

Date: 2006-05-22 05:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cleolinda.livejournal.com
I KNOW! I AM SO EXCITED. I'd heard about it for years but never thought they'd actually do it, because it was TOO AWESOME TO BE CONTEMPLATED.

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Date: 2006-05-22 04:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bigfatgreek.livejournal.com
Would LOVE to see your "Mary Magdalene is Jesus's babymamma" transformed into in icon.

My photoshop skills = laughable.

Date: 2006-05-22 05:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] takekammuri.livejournal.com
Cleo, i'm a huge fan of you, but i have one piece of criticism reg. your review of the 'Da Vinci Code', and that is:

OMG TOTAL REMY-SILAS HOYAY IN LONDON LIMO AND YOU DON'T EVEN MENTION IT - WHY!!!

Was i the only one who thought that Silas was absolutely beyond hotness? My friends said that i was a drrrty perv with a medieval soul because i told them that while he was going at himself with the cilice and whip, but, like, he hawt, yo!

Date: 2006-05-22 01:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] delurker.livejournal.com
Well, Paul Bettany *is* hot, yo. *g*
Not having seen the movie, though, I cannot comment as to his hotness as Silas. Flagellation ow.

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Date: 2006-05-22 05:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bibliotech.livejournal.com
Cate and Clive! I need this movie. I need it now

Date: 2006-05-22 05:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cleolinda.livejournal.com
And with any luck, it'll be just as historically inaccurate as the first movie! And we ALL know what that means.

(However, the Alison Weir bio of Elizabeth does mention that Raleigh was once spotted having his way with a maid of honor against a tree in the park, and that she apparently cried out, "Oh, my sweet Walter!" IT'S FACT, YO.)

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Date: 2006-05-22 05:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eruvadhril.livejournal.com
Elizabeth: The Golden Age
Whoot! I saw the first one because it has Ecclescakes in it and it was cool.

Date: 2006-05-22 05:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cpip.livejournal.com
Le sigh. While I'll go see the second Elizabeth movie, I know it'll make me weep because I'm a history nut, and the movie abuses history so viciously it's not funny.

Date: 2006-05-22 07:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fluffers.livejournal.com
But what do you call the transparent veily thing on the giant heart-shaped frame behind her?
It's definitely not a whisk.
And it's not historical costuming without historical disagreemnet on what to call it!
See, the thing about it is that it's not fundamentally the same thing as what's in that Mary picture, or the Shakespeare in Love picture posted above, because there's nothing...to it. Like, there's no fabric covering the heart shaped part, like there is in the aforementioned pics. From the side, it looks like O/| (l-r head, frame, fabric). Now, if the fabric was pulled forward and attached at the base of the frame structure, we'd be in business. So from the side, it would look like O/ Those are called Shell Collars (or Elizabethan collars, and I'm not sure about the Wing Collar name someone above mentioned, though it's likely the same as well...and speaking of comments above, you or someone called an 'open ruff' what is actually called a 'standing ruff'). Anyhootie, to get to the point (finally), I do believe it is sadly just called a veil. Veil on a wire frame if you want it to sound fancier. It was a style that evolved to accomodate the growing size of ruffs.

If you could see all the hand gestures I used to explain that, you would have totally understood it.

Date: 2006-05-22 12:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sea-of-tethys.livejournal.com
Hee! The Golden Age is currently filming in Cambridge; there's a fence you can peek through at St. John's College and see everybody standing around in their funky costumes. It's very cool altogether.

One of my friends is an extra and apparently he's wearing Joseph Fiennes' old hat. His buddy got Colin Firth's old wig.
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