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Okay, as I mentioned to someone else I was talking to, this may just be the week that I get unnecessarily worked up about things, but: I feel like this is something that has to be done, and that y'all are probably going to be with me on this.

I mentioned a detailed list of changes to The Dark Is Rising The Seeker in the linkspam Monday evening. To recap my experience with the books, I read The Grey King in grade school not knowing that it was part of a series, liked it but was very confused, and never got around to reading the other books even after I knew. So I'm not a pissed-off fan talking here, although I do know what the books are actually like, in part. I know enough to know what a travesty this movie is, basically. Let's also recap some of the major points from [livejournal.com profile] kiandra_fire's list:

1) Arthurian legend does not play a part.

2) Will is a thirteen-year-old American with neglectful parents and bullying brothers.

3) "Will goes to the mall and is accused of shoplifting by security guards, who take him to their office, demand the signs, then turn into rooks and chase him around the mall."

4) The Walker is young and the Rider has a white horse.

5) "Merriman relies on a mace... Miss Greythorne is rocking her swordcane on two fully-functional legs."

6) Will has a crush on Maggie Barnes and Max is working for the Dark.

7) "Will is Superman, Jr., with super strength and a bunch of other powers. He just can't fly. Alexander Ludwig says in his interview that he regrets he doesn't have this power as well, but — what was it? Ah, yes — 'It would totally change the whole story though.' " OH, WELL THEN.

8) Ian McShane: " 'I think the one thing I wanted to bring to this was reality,' he says. 'It was written in Old English.' "

9) Will has a twin.

10) OLD ENGLISH? ARE YOU SHITTING ME?

I just realized that this is coming out this Friday, so I'm going to say something, I have to say it now. Let me explain why I care about this, and why you should, even beyond the obvious suggestion that I'm a writer and I feel horrified for Susan Cooper. No, first and foremost--nothing has made me happier than the fantasy movie renaissance of the last seven years, and given y'all's responses to things I've posted, I'm pretty sure most of y'all are fantasy fans as well. And so far, miraculously, we've gotten by with extremely respectful adaptations. In the beginning, LOTR and HP (both in 2001) set excellent precedents for faithful book adaptations making shitloads of money, and most subsequent productions have followed in their footsteps. (And yes, the Harry Potter movies have made tons of changes and omissions over the years, but--go back up and read that Dark Is Rising list and see if you don't look at the Harry Potter changes in a totally different light now.) The Lemony Snicket movie changed a few things, including more of a wrap-up at the end, but they all worked, and the rest of the movie was so obviously trying to capture the books. The Narnia movie was fantastic, the Dark Materials people are obviously trying to be as faithful as possible despite the religion issue, Stardust made some majorish changes but was still a lovely adaptation--the only other really, really horrible travesty I can think of off the top of my head was the Earthsea miniseries, and it bombed, so, you know, faithful = money was still being upheld.

What if The Dark Is Rising adaptation ("adaptation") is a hit?

Oh, the studios will say, you can still make a ton of money, but you can do whatever you want? You can change the story and put in pointless but trendy family conflicts, love interests, younger characters? You can squeeze action into bizarre places and completely miss the point of the story? You can whittle it down until it hardly resembles the original at all? Wow, this is really convenient! All this time, we were busting our collective ass for nothing! Why bother actually trying to do the work of translating a beloved property to a different medium? We can just use a known title to sell people a completely different story, and it doesn't even have to be any good!

You see why I'm getting concerned here.

Think of any book series they haven't put on screen yet--because they will, particularly now that Harry Potter has run its course and there's only two movies left. Think of any series you love. The Seeker: The Dark Is Rising is what could happen to those books. In fact, I've heard that they're just calling it The Seeker now, which, as people have pointed out, is a term also used in... Harry Potter.

So what I'm asking is this: please, please do not go see this movie. Wait all of three months for it to come out on DVD, if you just need to see Christopher Eccleston the carnage. If you're talking to people about what movies you're all thinking of seeing, but they're not familiar with the books, "Oh, I've heard it's terrible. Basically, a really lame Harry Potter rip-off" ought to suffice. If you're actually talking to Susan Cooper fans, make sure they know that The Seeker is, in fact, a Dark Is Rising adaptation, despite all indications to the contrary. Make sure that people know how flippantly they've massacred the whole thing, and talk as many people out of seeing it as you can. Meanwhile, I'm going to go get the actual books--probably for Christmas--and try to support Susan Cooper that way. If you love the books already, now would be an excellent time to get a set for a young relative, for example, and try to pull in new readers. What I'm basically asking you to do is vote with your wallet--even if you don't want to spread the word, not seeing a movie is a pretty easy thing to do. This shit cannot be allowed to stand, y'all.


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Date: 2007-10-03 12:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] malhablada.livejournal.com
Ugh. That balks the writer in me.

But, then, the fan in me loves Stephen King and is thus quite accustomed to movies that are related to the original story in title only.

Date: 2007-10-03 01:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] count-01.livejournal.com
You, and every other Stephen King fan, should throw yourself in front of one of his awful movie "adaptations."

I hseitate to say "bus" because I really do admire the guy, he's a prolific (if awful) writer and a damned decent fellow, but seriously, we could have saved a whole lot of trees if he'd remained as obscure as he should have. I have yet to read anything by him that's remotely worthwhile, yet people buy them by the millions, so naturally he keeps crankin' 'em out...ughhhhhh.

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Date: 2007-10-03 12:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amaelamin.livejournal.com
Will has a twin?

Funnily enough, that was the part at which I went most WTF, even despite the Old English (?) and the rest of it being generally terrible. Why a twin? Would he like, you know, Mary Sue wings and a half-elf heritage as well?

Date: 2007-10-03 12:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] padawansguide.livejournal.com
The commercials for The Dark Is Rising The Seeker look so horrifying I'm almost glad they changed the name. I hope it's a bomb, it looks so bad.

Date: 2007-10-03 12:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] padawansguide.livejournal.com
And I should have used my new favorite icon to show my disgust:

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Date: 2007-10-03 12:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sound-of-bells.livejournal.com
I read those books years ago. I don't even remember them particularly; I don't think I even LIKED them very much. But this is just offensive. I mean -- no Arthurian legend? Please, people, please.

ALSO. I JUST. OLD ENGLISH. I DON'T EVEN. *speechless*

Date: 2007-10-03 12:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] akathorne.livejournal.com
Old English? Oh, fuck that noise.

Date: 2007-10-03 01:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] akathorne.livejournal.com
Ok, so I'm replying to myself, but I went and read some of the interviews with the people making this, and THEY SHOULD BE ASHAMED. They seem to think that 1. No one read the books, so it doesn't really matter anyway, 2. Anyone who DID read the books is hopelessly geeky and total losers and should shut up about how much they changed, and 3. the changes are AWESOME AND NOT AT ALL STUPID, because people can't really understand all that literary shit anyway. SO MUCH FAILING FAIL.

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Date: 2007-10-03 12:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] auralan.livejournal.com
*gapes*

Not seeing this one is going to be really easy.

Date: 2007-10-03 12:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gaaneden.livejournal.com
I am absolutely not seeing this moving. I don't feel like having a favorite childhood series ruined. Just watching the trailer for it pisses me off.

Date: 2007-10-03 12:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stringertheory.livejournal.com
I've only read one of the books in the series (quite some time ago, truth be told), but I remember loving it and planning (still am) to read the rest.

I barely got 5 points in on that list before my stomach turned and I had to stop.

This is ridiculous.

Damn commercialization.

Date: 2007-10-03 12:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theatre-angel.livejournal.com
Oh, hell no.

Date: 2007-10-03 12:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] redcoast.livejournal.com
That list might make more sense if I knew anything at all about Dark is Rising.

Date: 2007-10-03 01:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lauramcvey.livejournal.com
Basically, think the Les Miz adaptation. Only worse.

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Date: 2007-10-03 12:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] greenwitch.livejournal.com
Might it be a good time to point out this banner I found a few weeks ago? :)

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I am boycotting The Dark is Rising movie (http://shanaqui.livejournal.com/498459.html)


(I did not make the banner, disclaimer, but feel *quite strongly* about this buisness and gacked it as soon as I saw it.)

Date: 2007-10-03 01:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] greenwitch.livejournal.com
Addendum -- I've just dugg (http://digg.com/movies/Dark_Is_Rising_In_depth_Analysis) the initial [livejournal.com profile] authorblog post, if anyone cares to join in.

Date: 2007-10-03 01:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] claidissa.livejournal.com
Christopher Eccleston? I am so there.

Date: 2007-10-03 02:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cleolinda.livejournal.com
That... that was not the reaction I was hoping for.

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Date: 2007-10-03 01:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] conejita-diabla.livejournal.com
Your plea/rant has been ganked with credit to spread the word. FUCK THEM.

Date: 2007-10-03 01:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] felisdemens.livejournal.com
It will be extremely easy to avoid seeing this terrible crap cornucopia. After all, I prefer not barfing extravagantly as Hollywood anally violates my childhood.

Thank you for this post.

Date: 2007-10-03 01:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nc-bookworm.livejournal.com
But I want to see Christopher Eccleston! What if I go to a matinee?

Date: 2007-10-03 01:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anonymisty.livejournal.com
You could watch ExistenZ, Gone In Sixty Seconds and the first season of Doctor Who instead. *smile*

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Date: 2007-10-03 01:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anonymisty.livejournal.com
I have a tentative plan to go sit outside the theater with all five books, and read.

Date: 2007-10-03 01:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] incogra.livejournal.com
Ian McShane: " 'I think the one thing I wanted to bring to this was reality,' he says. 'It was written in Old English.' "

Oh, Ian McShane.

I do think that, fortunately, there's a very, very good chance that this will bomb and bomb hard. Especially if it's being released this Friday--there's not much buzz about it besides the pissed-off-fan kind.

Date: 2007-10-03 03:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eruvadhril.livejournal.com
*points to icon*

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Date: 2007-10-03 01:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lauramcvey.livejournal.com
*recalls the righteous rage felt upon watching the 1998 version of Les Miserables*

*ponders how I would feel if my cherished characters were ripped to shreds by some money-hungry director and a scriptwriter who didn't care*

Yeah, I'm out. I think the movie looks like shit anyway.

Date: 2007-10-03 01:11 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] sandelwood
I could say something to similar effect about why you shouldn't see the Golden Compass as someone who loves the the faithfulness of the fantasy renaissance being due to people like Peter Jackson's sheer tenacious determination and NOT the fact that New Line's money-grubbing, bookcooking, pity-me-I-was-in-a-coma ASSHAT of a CEO is banking on GC to determine the fate of whether or not Time Warner dissolves New Line altogether, but something tells me you don't want to hear it.

Never mind that the religious connotations are so glossed over in GC that stupid people won't even notices it's about religious tyranny and not cute fuzzy animals and talking polar bears. Chances are the next two films will be so brutalized you'll fall into a plot hole as soon as the opening credits roll.

Date: 2007-10-03 01:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] earendilgrey.livejournal.com
Yea, I'm on the second book right now and if it ever gets made they will horribly butcher it. Thought I already know that one of my fave scenes will be cut out of the first one, or at least be shown in a different way(the bear fight).

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Date: 2007-10-03 01:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tinuviell.livejournal.com
Thank you, Cleo, for stating the sheer awfulness, and the danger, of this travesty of a movie far better than I have been able to when warning people away. I'll be borrowing some of your reasons next time I talk to someone about this movie. As a fantasy fan hoping one day for a proper adaptation of Lloyd Alexander's Chronicles of Prydain, seeing what they've done to Cooper's work (which I've loved and admired for years) scares me. It's just so sad to see no one involved with the movie caring about the story at all.

(I am a frequent lurker on your LJ but I think this is my first comment. I'm Luthien at SF and have always found your journal to be one of the most reliable sources for movie news around).

Date: 2007-10-03 01:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] therecklesslady.livejournal.com
YES. Though after the WTFery that was "The Black Cauldron" I don't want anyone touching those books in the movie world ever ever again.

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Date: 2007-10-03 01:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crimsonclad.livejournal.com
That series was VITAL to my early formation as a fantasy reader, and I can't even THINK about this travesty without getting furious.

UGH. UGH. UGH.

Date: 2007-10-03 01:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] queenofattolia.livejournal.com
Thank you for posting this. You're absolutely right - the total arrogance of these filmmakers is staggering. I understand that certain things have to be cut, compressed or slightly changed from the original material in order to do a viable, commerical film, but this is too much, especially in light of the HP and Narnia adaptations.

These guys should be forced (a la A Clockwork Orange, itself an admirable and respectful film adaptation) to watch the film version of To Kill A Mockingbird on a loop for 24 hours straight. Not that it would do any good, really, but it might hurt them to finally realize how moronic they are.

Boycott The [FEH] Seeker.

Date: 2007-10-03 02:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wendyzski.livejournal.com
I caught the tale end of a commercial for it yesterday and it's only called "The Seeker" in it.

Pleh.

Date: 2007-10-03 02:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] prncssaurora.livejournal.com
Man, I read The Dark is Rising back in... elementary school? Junior High? and quite liked it, but didn't ever get around to reading any of the other books in the series. So I'm not even really invested in this movie, but I'm still hella pissed about all the changes they've made. The trailer looks crap, and the only buzz I've heard about it has been negative, so here's hoping it bombs.

Old English? Bahahahahahaha!
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