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Okay, so, first of all, Shelby escaped yesterday. A little before five, these two Charter Cable guys show up at the door. They're both my age or younger, and one of them looks like he's ready to mow a lawn--that is, dirty t-shirt, no official Charter insignia of any kind. I wasn't even sure they were Charter employees at first, quite honestly, never mind that nothing was wrong with our cable. But, you know, it's hard enough to get people to come work on things, so I'm not going to chase them away if someone really did call, so I go hunting around the house to find my stepfather and ask him. I check my parents' room--he's just gotten home--and he's not there, and as I come back into the hall, I see that these two guys have OPENED OUR GLASS DOOR AND LET OUR THREE DOGS OUT. What THE FUCK. These are indoor dogs, mostly because they will RUN AWAY if not leashed up, and two of them are puppies that don't yet have the sense that God gave a breath mint. I don't care if they're playing with them, I yanked those dogs back in so fast I think everyone's head spun.

So I go find my stepfather. He has no idea why the Charter guys are there. He stands out there on the porch and calls my mother. She has no idea why the Charter guys are there. "[House number]?" asks Charter Guy Actually Wearing an Employee Shirt. "Yeah, that's us," I say. It's about that time that Casual Wednesday Guy goes, "Oh, we're supposed to be across the street." You know... even though they had the right number. So they saunter back to their van, and as my stepfather's trying to get back into the house--and bear in mind here that I am actually leaning down and holding the dogs by the scruffs of their necks at this point--Shelby slips between his feet and bolts out into the front yard.

I have some pictures of them I'm going to post sometime, but the thing you need to know is that Shelby has these long coltish legs. "She's all arms and legs," as my mother is fond of saying (to which I usually reply, stealing from L.M. Montgomery, "Well, they have to be long enough to reach the ground"). The other thing you need to know is that, as I have said many, many times, I am built like a hobbit. A particularly unathletic, slothy hobbit. Actually, now that I mention it, I wasn't wearing shoes, either. So while my stepfather goes to find a leash, I'm out in the front yard screaming and flailing because Shelby is heading almost directly for the street, and all I can think is, Those two guys are such morons that they will probably run her over.

The third thing you have to know, however, is that I can tear it up when shit is on the line. I remember evading a third baseman (basegirl?) during my softball days--I think she chased me down all the way to home plate, and she missed me by about an inch. I know, because she ran into me after I'd crossed the plate. And then there's the time I was on a school trip, waiting in a dinky Bahamian airport for our plane, and our professor assured us that it had been delayed another twenty minutes. So I stroll over to the restroom, and when I come out, the concourse--which was previously wall-to-wall with antsy passengers--was dead cold empty. I saw my professor standing at the very end of the concourse. I was weighed down like a packhorse with a large suitcase and a backpack. All I remember to this day was sheer terror that I would be left behind--the first time I had ever been out of the country--and cheap carpet pounding beneath my feet. I booked it like Carl Lewis, is what happened. Later, my professor told me--laughing--in her Slovakian-accented English, "I never saw anybody run that fast before."

So here I am, six years later, double-timing it around the yard and shrieking. Shelby is what my stepfather grimly calls "a free spirit," and she is having the time of her life--I can actually see the grin on her face when she wheels around to get away from me. She knows when she's being bad, and she will duck and feint with the best of them if you try to grab her. I think she got near the street twice, but I was sprinting after her so hysterically that both times even she knew to back off. It ended up that George went "Hey, Shelby! Treat!" and leashed her up pretty easily. You know, after I'd done all the hard work for him.

Meanwhile, Sister Girl came across me grimly watching X-Men 3 for the third or fourth time on cable a couple of weeks ago and asked--particularly in light of the fact that I didn't like the movie--"How many times are you going to watch that?" "Until it gets funny," I said. So at the moment I'm watching the first two POTC movies, not so much until they get funny, but until I get familiar with them on a macrocosmic level, if that makes any sense. Which is to say: until I start seeing the forest instead of the trees. Because I have a feeling that the only way to parody the POTC movies will be to do all three as a single parody, keep it very short, and focus on the plot convolutions, the whole "Wait, what are we supposed to be doing now?" idea. As I've said before, I feel like The Prestige is a little bit my model in that regard; I condensed almost every single scene with Borden's long-suffering wife into a single segment. Let's put it this way: I think it can be done, but it'll have to be done more as a small treat than the centerpiece of the book. Emphasis on small.

To that end, I listened to a few of the commentaries (again) on the first two movies, and noticed a few things that only now make sense:

>> The writers talk about how Jack is treated as "a god in human form" on the cannibal island, and how that echoes something in POTC3--as we know now, Calypso.

>> The point of that whole sequence, by the way, was apparently to explain "why Jack couldn't just stay on land": No matter where he goes, he gets into trouble. Now, what the point of the fruit kabob was relative to that, they did not say.

>> The reason that a lot of people have been so confused and frustrated by the two sequels--seriously, I've heard from a number of people who are actually angry about them--can probably be pinpointed at an exact moment in the POTC2 commentary when one of the writers says that they went out of their way to do as Billy Wilder once advised and "Give the audience two plus two, but not four." Letting the audience do the math on their own (rather than forcefeeding them exposition) is great and all, but I'm not sure it's the best idea when you've got a storyline that can already be, to use the technical screenwriting term, Hella Confusing at times. I mean, I can follow the plots, but I can see how they'd frustrate a lot of people. I'm just saying, Two Plus Two is a great way to stop treating your viewers like morons, but sometimes you need to go back and make sure that the audience realizes numbers are there to be added up in the first place. Or, in other words, they did go out of their way to make the movie intentionally puzzling at times, in the best sense of the word--to make it a puzzle for people to play with. They do specifically mention that they wanted "discussion of the movie[s] to be a community experience." So, you know, go us, I guess.

>> I don't know if they intended this as any kind of foreshadowing, but Jack saying "You know, as a captain, I can perform a marriage" seems to have added significance now.

>> The writers do, however, point out that Wyvern--the Flying Dutchman crewmember who is already part of the ship--saying, "Stab the heart--no, don't stab the heart! The Dutchman must have a captain!" does, in fact, hint at the idea that the curse is more complicated than Will currently thinks it is.

>> I had never quite understood what the hell was going on with Jack and his compass, because I couldn't think what he was confused about wanting; for some reason, I thought that he wouldn't really think about Elizabeth until she actually showed up on the docks, maybe because he'd told her "It would never work out between us" at the end of the first one. Not because he believed that, of course--more in the sense of sour grapes, you know, she played me for a fool so I was the one who didn't want her, I'm moving on. I understand him going after her again once she shows up, but apparently the original order of the scenes--Jack escaping from the prison in the coffin, then the interrupted wedding--was supposed to show you the progression from "What's wrong with Jack?" to "Oh, he's got Elizabeth on the brain." I like it better the way they ended up cutting it, with the almost-spooky not-wedding up front, but as with the third movie, information gets lost as a tradeoff. So apparently all these references to Jack not knowing what he wants most, or "being afraid to claim it for himself," or "Why is the rum always gone?," or him being the one to answer, "A woman," when Tia Dalma asks what vexes a man most--these are all supposed to be references to Elizabeth. Well, I are not smart, because I didn't catch that.

>> The thing that does crack me up is how Rossio and Elliott repeatedly intone "THE LOOOOOCKEEEEET" every time one shows up.

>> Somewhat oddly, someone mentions musicals on the first movie's commentary--something like, "What's next for Johnny, musicals?" And then on the second movie, the writers actually mention Sweeney Todd, but in the context of Norrington and his sword. Weirrrrd.

Linkspam:

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Medics fear fliers exposed to TB superbug. Do you ever see a headline like this and wonder if our own personal apocalyptic Michael Crichton thriller just started?

$1M gold tub stolen from hotel in Japan. ... How?

Microsoft unveils new Surface computer.

Man described as a top spammer arrested.

Zoo: Rare rhino death leaves 13 in world.

I love the idea of unionized lolcats.

Today In Soft Outings: Actor You Long Believed To Be Gay Is Confirmed As Gay.

The Summer Tv Wasteland: Mark Burnett Slaps Eye-Patch On 'Survivor,' Resells It As New Pirate-Themed Show.

Yahoo Picks: The best of craigslist.

Annette Bening and Eva Mendes Join 'The Women.' I love the 1939 version, but I'm actually really excited about this.

Deschanel is Happening for Shyamalan.

K-Fed Lands Movie Role Opposite Keanu Reeves. Why? Whyyyy?

Hi-Res Dark Knight Photos.

Sin City 2 Still on, But It Will Have to Wait. *sob*

First Snaps of Leo DiCaprio From 'Revolutionary Road' Set.

Reese Witherspoon Will Remake Claudette Colbert's 'Midnight.'

'I Am Legend' Trailer Reportedly Attached to 'Ocean's 13.'

Gaiman writing and directing adaptation of Death: The High Cost of Living?

'Half Nelson' Team Will Write 'Special Topics in Calamity Physics.'

Aronofsky's Ark.

New "Wizarding World of Harry Potter" Theme Park Announced for Universal Studios.

"Check out Dominic Monaghan in period grave-robbing flick, I SELL THE DEAD!!!" Well... that's a headline you're not going to see every day.

And now, I have to go back downstairs and make sure the puppies haven't set the house on fire.



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Date: 2007-05-31 07:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] supersyncspaz7.livejournal.com
For everyone's sake, I hope your puppies aren't pyros.

Another case of TB (http://www.star-telegram.com/news/story/119493.html), except this one's at a high school. About 500 students and teachers are being called back for testing. Oh, and that's my alma mater right there. [groans]

Date: 2007-05-31 08:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] biomekanic.livejournal.com
All we have here is a guy who brought measels (http://www.kmtr.com/mediacenter/local.aspx?videoId=10124@video.kmtr.com&navCatId=5) back as his souveniour from Japan.

Date: 2007-05-31 07:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] arielchan.livejournal.com
See, this is actually why I love Pirates of the Caribbean. Because they're popcorn movies and you can sit there and enjoy the blood and the clash of steel and the explosions and the one-line jokes.

But you can also sit down and watch them repeatedly and think about them and the more you watch it, the more interesting it gets. Because when you start to look past the crazy action sequences you see more of the characters and more and more things that are implied but not said and you realize that while this is by no means masterpiece film-making, the movies are in fact an ocean, not just a tidepool.

Date: 2007-05-31 07:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] laddical.livejournal.com
But you can also sit down and watch them repeatedly and think about them and the more you watch it, the more interesting it gets.

Exactly!

I don't mind people not liking the movie. Nothing is everyone's cuppa. But the way some people react to this movie is directly counter to the complaint, "Summer movies are so dumb!" Well, here's a smart one, and it's still not what you want.

Date: 2007-06-01 12:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nimlotbradamant.livejournal.com
Exactly. I appreciate that so much now--they're really food for thought, much more so than most movies. Do I write thousand-word entries in my journal dissecting the motivations of Spiderman characters (though I adore Spiderman)? No! I say "ZOMG SPIDEY WAS GREAT GO SEE THE MOVIE!". With Pirates, though, you've got to fill in the blanks--and they give you lots of blanks. People are milling around saying, "Wait, so if the FD always has to have a captain, how's Will going to get free of his curse?" Well, because someone else becomes the captain...duh.

A lot of things got left on the cutting-room floor, in particular exposition about the curse being ended. But I think I like the ambiguous version. Be interesting to see the DVD--and hear the commentary thereto; I loved the previous comentaries.

Date: 2007-06-01 02:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cleolinda.livejournal.com
I just want to hear Keira Knightley and Jack Davenport goofing around again. And maybe a Geoffrey Rush/Bill Nighy commentary, if they can squeeze it on there, because you know they'll have the writers and probably the director as well, with or without Johnny Depp.

Date: 2007-06-01 12:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] derangeddarling.livejournal.com
"when you start to look past the crazy action sequences you see more of the characters and more and more things that are implied but not said and you realize that while this is by no means masterpiece film-making, the movies are in fact an ocean, not just a tidepool."

I agree with that whole heartedly. I have seen AWE four times now, and i just this last time noticed a whole bunch more stuff. And it just blows my mind how I enjoy and appreciate these movies more every time, as opposed to most movies where i either enjoy it just as much or less than the first time i saw it.

Date: 2007-05-31 07:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sigma7.livejournal.com
I think we can summarize the genesis of the LJ-spasm in three simple words: "Brad's on vacation."

Date: 2007-06-01 01:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cleolinda.livejournal.com
He is, but at Brad's own journal, he said that he doesn't even work for Livejournal anymore, which is something of a shocker.

Date: 2007-06-01 03:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sigma7.livejournal.com
Oh, I'd be saying the same thing after the last three days.

Date: 2007-05-31 08:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jigglykat.livejournal.com
See, now I just need to re-listen to the commentaries. I haven't listened to the DMC one since I bought the DVD and the first one a year or so before that. But the writers' commentaries are fascinating, I'll admit! Those are interesting points, and now that you mention them, I can remember them talking about it!

I also like when they talk about level of sword abilities, where Will is at the top, Barbossa and Norrington are evenly matched, and Jack is at the bottom.

Date: 2007-05-31 08:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] camisado.livejournal.com
I'm so glad for your entries on POTC3 because I really didn't get some of the major plot points. I know I'm not the sharpest knife in the drawer, but I still think they could've made a few things more clear -- like how your tenure as captain of the Flying Dutchman is over if your true love is waiting for you at the end of those 10 years. I thought the ending was sad at first because I was under the impression that Will would be captain for eternity (or until someone stabbed his heart and took over his position*) and would only get to visit Elizabeth one day every ten years for the rest of their lives. Sure, it seems obvious to me NOW, but I didn't get that until you explained it. :-/

*Does that mean he'd die? Did Davy Jones die from that, or from falling into Calypso's Womanly Vortex Of Doom?

I was kinda disappointed they dropped the whole Elizabeth/Jack storyline. I thought that was much more interesting than her romance with Will. And if the foreshadowing of a woman vexing Jack was really all about Elizabeth, that makes it even sadder that he doesn't get the girl in the end.

Date: 2007-05-31 08:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] clodia-risa.livejournal.com
I think that they could have made the whole curse thing more clear. Period. I could keep up with everything but everything to do with the curse. Which was a lot, darn it.

Date: 2007-05-31 08:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] laddical.livejournal.com
like how your tenure as captain of the Flying Dutchman is over if your true love is waiting for you at the end of those 10 years

Well, it's not that that is unclear, it's that it's not in the movie at all. From the character's perspectives in the movie, Will will not be set free. So while this bit of "cut" info has been circulating by people who want Liz and Will to have a happy ending, it is not the view of the final cut of the film.

Date: 2007-05-31 08:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] camisado.livejournal.com
Yeah! I thought Davy Jones was upset at Calypso just because she wasn't there on his ONE day of shoreleave. I had no idea it had anything to do with his curse or his job as captain of the Flying Dutchman. I thought he was just pissed off at being a jilted lover.

Date: 2007-06-01 12:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lederhosen.livejournal.com
I thought Davy Jones was upset at Calypso just because she wasn't there on his ONE day of shoreleave.

I'm still going 'WTF' over the bit where a ship's captain and a sea goddess need to wait ten years for his one day ashore before they can get together. Without the curse-breaky-aspect it makes no sense at all, and even with the curse-breaky bit it doesn't feel right.

Date: 2007-06-01 02:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cleolinda.livejournal.com
Yeah, I kind of wondered a little about that too. Maybe her human form is the one he wanted, and her human form couldn't go on the Dutchman?

Date: 2007-05-31 10:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mycenae.livejournal.com
So that is not to be considered canon? Suck. The end of the movie really annoyed me, what with the whole tragic end for Will & Elizabeth. I didn't really care all that much about them during the course of the moives, but I think that was partly just because I assumed their happy ever after was a done deal. When AWE took that away I was left going "Wut...?" Not to be overly dramatic, but I felt like the rug had been pulled out from under me. Then reading the whole 10 year true love escape clause thing gave me hope. But now that's not real either?? Lame. It would have made the whole part where Davy Jones wants Calypso dead make a lot more sense, too. Like, "I hate you for abandoning me and dooming me to an eternity of supernatural servitude" rather than "I'm pissed cause you went and made other plans on my one day off."

Date: 2007-06-01 01:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cleolinda.livejournal.com
See, the writers were apparently surprised that the explanation wasn't left in, and nothing was actually put in to contradict it; it's just omitted. I think that if you know what they originally wrote, and that they intended it to be in, you can believe it if you want, but if you prefer the more bittersweet ending, you can also go with that one because it is, after all, what's in the actual movie. I guess my feeling is, it's more canon than something fans got together and made up or "figured out"; it's something that was, at least at some point, actually intended and never outright contradicted. And apparently Will's white shirt and the green flash at the horizon are supposed to indicate it as well.

Date: 2007-05-31 10:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cleolinda.livejournal.com
that makes it even sadder that he doesn't get the girl in the end

I guess I look at it, though, as that he did get the girl--because I don't know that he was *in love* with her, although they obviously had a mutual attraction going on; Jack's true love is, after all, the Black Pearl--and lived (or didn't) to regret it. Basically, he learned to be careful what you wish for, as they say, because you just might get it--at the end of the movie, he's all like, "Once was enough, thanks." And then he's free to go back to slutting around with Giselle and Scarlett (and fifty other someone-elses) and yearning after the Pearl.

Date: 2007-06-01 12:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] derangeddarling.livejournal.com
I agree with the appreciating Cleo because she explains things well.

If it weren't for Cleo, I wouldn't use LJ anymore.

I love this journal because I get news, I get entertainment, I get accessible explanations of both...

*<3s Cleo*

Date: 2007-05-31 08:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lauramcvey.livejournal.com
Wait . . . so the Sparrabethers actually have a case? *insert mind blowing here* Well, I'm both confused, and glad I never took part in those Sparrabeth/Willabeth debates on IMDB (except for clarifying the kid's paternity) so now I won't have to go back and eat crow.
The two plus two thing would work well, except for the audience members (i.e. me) who are morons.
Oh, and I keep hearing rumours of a Pirates 4, and a girl on one of the messageboards I visit says the movies are filmed where she lives, and they've already started production on another one. Does anyone know about this?

Date: 2007-05-31 10:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cleolinda.livejournal.com
My understanding is that they're very waffly on it--they keep saying they might do one if they come up with a good idea/script, but the news stories keep going back and forth on varying shades of maybe. So, not to put too fine a point on it, this girl is full of shit. Or at the very least, misunderstanding something.

And actually, I don't think the Jack/Elizabeth people have a "case," per se--I mean, those two were obviously het up over each other, so they have a case in that sense. I mean, it's not like it's subtext; there are several scenes of those two characters playing barely-PG-13 headgames with each other. But in terms of ending up together forever or true love or whatever--which is what most shippers seem to be after, regardless of fandom--I think the movies have made it pretty obvious that Will and Elizabeth are the One True Pairing, and whatever happened between Jack and Elizabeth was either a game, or a temporary/friendly temptation, or a mistake, or something. (On the commentary, the writers quote a novelist who summed it up as Elizabeth "getting to slake her lust and drown her guilt" at the end of DMC.) To me, the nail in the Jack/Elizabeth coffin was "Once was enough." I mean, he'll get personal with a goat but he's too spooked to kiss Elizabeth goodbye?

Date: 2007-05-31 10:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] everstar3.livejournal.com
Knowing Jack, he probably just decided Elizabeth was more trouble than she was worth, and the Pearl at least, would never handcuff him to, uh, itself or become King of the Pirates, and would certainly never ever leave him again.....

Unless he left Barbossa on board while he went ashore. GG, Jack.

Date: 2007-05-31 08:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cuddlycthulhu.livejournal.com
Neil actually announced that negotiations for a Death movie had begun years ago at San Diego Comic-Con (I think it was 2003 or 2004) when he began talking about MirrorMask. I'm glad that something might finally be happening.

Date: 2007-05-31 09:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] particle-person.livejournal.com
They's in ur housez, releasing ur houndz.

Date: 2007-05-31 09:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sapphires13.livejournal.com
"Apparently LiveJournal can't tell the difference between what a pedophile community is and a Harry Potter fan-fiction community despite being told months ago which is what."

Well, at least we know now that Perverted Justice approve of Harry Potter fanfics =P

Date: 2007-05-31 10:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cleolinda.livejournal.com
Yeah, that was the part that cracked ME up.

Date: 2007-05-31 09:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theatre-angel.livejournal.com
Oh man, I will basically guard the front door like a hawk when people are leaving it open and the dog and cats are about. HOW ARE PEOPLE SO DUMB. HOW.

Date: 2007-05-31 10:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cleolinda.livejournal.com
Well, you see why I was convinced they'd also run her over, if they were that stupid. Also, because she was bolting straight for the house they were supposed to be at, IDIOTS.

Date: 2007-05-31 10:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] clodia-risa.livejournal.com
I once had a bunch of my cast-mates over, and when everyone was leaving, they just hung around the front door, leaving it open, talking, against my express wishes. Due to that, my cat got outside, nearly got into a fight with another cat, which I stopped. Because I stopped the fight my cat bit me, my hand got infected, and I am still scarred to this day.

I don't blame my kitty, I blame the idiots that left the front door open and didn't notice that he was walking outside.

Date: 2007-05-31 09:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sharpenedyaks.livejournal.com
K-Fed Lands Movie Role Opposite Keanu Reeves. Why? Whyyyy?

Or rather...WHOA.

Date: 2007-06-01 05:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] brittastic14.livejournal.com
More like

oh...dear...GOD!!! WHY!?! *shakes fists at the sky*

Date: 2007-06-01 06:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] r-a-black.livejournal.com
With a bit more of:

*bangs head repeatedly on desk while screaming aforementioned "Why, GOD, WHY?!?!"*

Date: 2007-06-01 01:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sunni-sideup.livejournal.com
Reading that story about your dogs made my day. ^^

I have yet to watch the POTC commentaries... although I've watched all the extras. Commentaries have to wait until I'm REALLY bored.

Date: 2007-06-01 03:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cleolinda.livejournal.com
For me, it depends on the commentary; some of them are mumbly or dry. The Keira Knightley/Jack Davenport commentary on the first movie is fun, though ("The quality has arrived!").

Date: 2007-06-01 01:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sualocin.livejournal.com
I'm at a point where I am excitedly nervous about The Women remake.

Also, I have a question, if the captain can marry people, and Elizabeth was made captain by [dead guy whose name I don't know], why couldn't she marry Will & herself? Is it because you can't marry yourself, or you have to be on your ship, or what?

Date: 2007-06-01 03:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cleolinda.livejournal.com
I think it's because you can't marry yourself. Technically, when Jack brought it up, I don't think he was really thinking of a "marriage," ahem.

Date: 2007-06-01 04:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kismeteve.livejournal.com
Do you ever see a headline like this and wonder if our own personal apocalyptic Michael Crichton thriller just started?,/I>

All the time, Cleo, all the time.

Date: 2007-06-01 06:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] k-joy.livejournal.com
Sin City 2 is on hold again?! :(

First it was supposed to come out this year, then we had to wait another year, so that makes it 2008, and now we have to wait again?! At this rate I'm going to be 35 before it's released! :-/ There's only a number of times that one can watch Sin City without paying more attention to the goofs and un-smoothness of the transitions. I need me some new Dwight...

Date: 2007-06-01 06:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] r-a-black.livejournal.com
Hm, to be honest I never really got the impression that Jack had his mind stuck on Elizabeth. I dunno, maybe I wasn't paying much attention to those bits, or maybe it's because I'm really not a fan of the love triangle type of story. Even now, when he says "It would have never worked out between us" at the end of the first movie, I see it as merely a side joke. I didn't think it would lead up to anything, and even with him being all flirty on the ship in the second movie, I still figured it was just Jack Sparrow being, well, Jack Sparrow. I never really got the impression he was really into her.

Still, the little clues you mentioned do make some sense.

As a devout compass watcher

Date: 2007-06-01 08:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 7tree-hugger.livejournal.com
I was picking up on the navigational confusion from the start. But then I am a Jack/Elizabeth shipper (I'm getting better now). Persuading friends was harder. You really have to watch where the compass points all the time.

Yay for writers giving us something to chew rather than just the eyecandy. Though yay for the eye candy as well.

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