Re: Children of Men
Jan. 5th, 2007 11:21 pmWow, so... Children of Men. That was... wow. "Intense" might be the best, non-spoilery word to describe it. I would definitely say go see it; it's one of the best "visions of the future,” as they always say in the Movies Set in a Dystopian Future trailers (“FROM THE DIRECTOR OF [BLAH] COMES A VISION OF THE FUTURE LIKE YOU’VE NEVER SEEN BEFORE”), that I think I've ever seen in a movie--precisely because it looks like the present. Alfonso Cuarón takes images from today, the kind of chaos you see happening on CNN in someone else's country, and says it's happening now, but it's happening to you. It's 2027, but there's no lasers, no robots, no flying cars. Just 24-hour news channels and Starbucks and flip-flops. There's a few bits of "future" technology here and there, but they're mostly glossed over; the movie is mostly about the way the things we're doing right now, as nations, as people, is going to bite us in the ass if we don't open our eyes to what we're doing to each other. It's almost like there's two movies going on--a movie about a man drawn against his will into a journey to get a pregnant woman, perhaps the last pregnant woman, to safety, and a movie in the background, in the periphery and the corner of your eye, about human rights injustices--the shit that we're doing to each other--today. And in that respect, the movie pretty much doesn't pull any punches--Cuarón signals about half an hour in (and I'll get to that behind the cut) that this may be a movie but it's not going to play by the rules--the safe clichés and formulas we’re used to. No one is safe, because that's life. In conclusion: Go see it.
Seriously, giant spoilers, I'm not kidding. Turn back nowwwwww.
So there's that first scene, the one you see in the trailer where Clive Owen buys his coffee and suddenly a storefront blows up behind him. Right before we cut to another scene, there's a woman staggering out, screaming, and she's got no left arm. It's been blown off. Now, it went by so fast that I'm not sure, but I think she may have been holding the arm in her other hand. This is the movie telling you what you can expect: shit is going to happen when you least expect it, and the gore might stay in the background, but it's going to be there, and it's going to be realistic, and it's going to be bad. And then, I don't know how far in exactly, but I'd guess maybe 30 minutes in: Julianne Moore dies, in pretty much the most sudden and shocking way possible. This movie is telling you at this point that absolutely no one is safe, and in fact, I turned to one of the friends I was with and muttered, "Oh, shit. Everyone's gonna die, aren't they?" The movie is telling you that life is short and senseless and unfair, even as it dangles this one thread of hope, and it's pretty much going to keep telling you this, and here's why that's brilliant from a filmmaking point of view: you spend every single second waiting for the other shoe to drop. You figure that whatever the worst that could happen at that particular moment is, that's what's going to happen. And a good bit of the time? It does. There was a point where I was actually like, "Yay! [Someone]'s going to use the suicide kit! Thank God." This is also the kind of movie where, two minutes later, you find yourself mentally shrieking, "Fuck! Why didn't you use the suicide kit! I'm sure there was enough for both of you!" Hell, this is the kind of movie where suicide kits are advertised on TV like allergy medications ("You Decide When It's Time"); you half expect the ad to end with a soothing "Ask your doctor!" My point is, after Julianne Moore took a bullet in the throat, we spent the rest of the movie expecting bombs to go off during any momentary lull and whoever was currently onscreen to get shot in the head in the middle of his next sentence. Cuarón didn't even have to build up any kind of suspense--we did all of that for him. The camera just charges through the movie like a war correspondent; there's a fairly long sequence following Owen in a dash from ruin to ruin where there's three drops of blood on the lens for the whole scene. And while there's some really beautiful framing in a scene where Jasper talks about Theo's son--and apparently some "unprecedented" camerawork in the car/death scene, the camera mostly just watches or follows, dragging you with it. Most of the horrors happen in the background--keep an eye out for some Abu Ghraib-esque imagery when Miriam's taken away--which ratchets the tension up even higher; you feel like you're being assaulted from all sides, and you never know when any of those horrors are going to charge in front and center.
At the same time, there's a surprising amount of humor in the movie. As awful as the first car chase is, the second--possibly the slowest car chase ever filmed--is hilarious. And you will never hear "Pull my finger" quite the same way again, I promise you that.
Two reactions I want to note, for some reason:
1) Clive Owen is trying to get away from a minor character who is both 1) heavily armed and 2) deeply pissed off, and takes him out with a brick to the face. Like, a really graphic, squelchy brick. We hear about three rows' worth of guys in the front of the theater all simultaneously wail "OHHHHHHHHHH." Seriously, they may have all been together. For some reason, I think that was the most visceral reaction from the audience in the entire movie, and it wasn't anywhere near the most graphic or harrowing.
2) We were sitting through the credits trying to process what we'd just seen (well, technically, I was trying to screw my glasses back together, as they decided to fall apart at precisely that second), and a middle-aged couple passes us going down the stairs. The woman, who has reddish grandma hair (you know the style I'm talking about) stops, looks at us, and says "Did you like that?" We sort of stare at her, and she laughs in this Yeah, me neither way, and kind of swats her hand and says, "Nahhhh." Guys? It's not the kind of movie you "like." It's a great movie. But you're not gonna want any popcorn, if you get what I'm saying.
Also, I can’t get rid of this nagging feeling that “children of men” is a famous phrase or a quotation of some sort, but I can’t place it, and searches aren’t turning anything up. Anyone? ETA: Ahhhh, Psalm 90. There we go. ETA: Okay, folks are coming up with multiple Biblical references. Interesting.

Seriously, giant spoilers, I'm not kidding. Turn back nowwwwww.
So there's that first scene, the one you see in the trailer where Clive Owen buys his coffee and suddenly a storefront blows up behind him. Right before we cut to another scene, there's a woman staggering out, screaming, and she's got no left arm. It's been blown off. Now, it went by so fast that I'm not sure, but I think she may have been holding the arm in her other hand. This is the movie telling you what you can expect: shit is going to happen when you least expect it, and the gore might stay in the background, but it's going to be there, and it's going to be realistic, and it's going to be bad. And then, I don't know how far in exactly, but I'd guess maybe 30 minutes in: Julianne Moore dies, in pretty much the most sudden and shocking way possible. This movie is telling you at this point that absolutely no one is safe, and in fact, I turned to one of the friends I was with and muttered, "Oh, shit. Everyone's gonna die, aren't they?" The movie is telling you that life is short and senseless and unfair, even as it dangles this one thread of hope, and it's pretty much going to keep telling you this, and here's why that's brilliant from a filmmaking point of view: you spend every single second waiting for the other shoe to drop. You figure that whatever the worst that could happen at that particular moment is, that's what's going to happen. And a good bit of the time? It does. There was a point where I was actually like, "Yay! [Someone]'s going to use the suicide kit! Thank God." This is also the kind of movie where, two minutes later, you find yourself mentally shrieking, "Fuck! Why didn't you use the suicide kit! I'm sure there was enough for both of you!" Hell, this is the kind of movie where suicide kits are advertised on TV like allergy medications ("You Decide When It's Time"); you half expect the ad to end with a soothing "Ask your doctor!" My point is, after Julianne Moore took a bullet in the throat, we spent the rest of the movie expecting bombs to go off during any momentary lull and whoever was currently onscreen to get shot in the head in the middle of his next sentence. Cuarón didn't even have to build up any kind of suspense--we did all of that for him. The camera just charges through the movie like a war correspondent; there's a fairly long sequence following Owen in a dash from ruin to ruin where there's three drops of blood on the lens for the whole scene. And while there's some really beautiful framing in a scene where Jasper talks about Theo's son--and apparently some "unprecedented" camerawork in the car/death scene, the camera mostly just watches or follows, dragging you with it. Most of the horrors happen in the background--keep an eye out for some Abu Ghraib-esque imagery when Miriam's taken away--which ratchets the tension up even higher; you feel like you're being assaulted from all sides, and you never know when any of those horrors are going to charge in front and center.
At the same time, there's a surprising amount of humor in the movie. As awful as the first car chase is, the second--possibly the slowest car chase ever filmed--is hilarious. And you will never hear "Pull my finger" quite the same way again, I promise you that.
Two reactions I want to note, for some reason:
1) Clive Owen is trying to get away from a minor character who is both 1) heavily armed and 2) deeply pissed off, and takes him out with a brick to the face. Like, a really graphic, squelchy brick. We hear about three rows' worth of guys in the front of the theater all simultaneously wail "OHHHHHHHHHH." Seriously, they may have all been together. For some reason, I think that was the most visceral reaction from the audience in the entire movie, and it wasn't anywhere near the most graphic or harrowing.
2) We were sitting through the credits trying to process what we'd just seen (well, technically, I was trying to screw my glasses back together, as they decided to fall apart at precisely that second), and a middle-aged couple passes us going down the stairs. The woman, who has reddish grandma hair (you know the style I'm talking about) stops, looks at us, and says "Did you like that?" We sort of stare at her, and she laughs in this Yeah, me neither way, and kind of swats her hand and says, "Nahhhh." Guys? It's not the kind of movie you "like." It's a great movie. But you're not gonna want any popcorn, if you get what I'm saying.
Also, I can’t get rid of this nagging feeling that “children of men” is a famous phrase or a quotation of some sort, but I can’t place it, and searches aren’t turning anything up. Anyone? ETA: Ahhhh, Psalm 90. There we go. ETA: Okay, folks are coming up with multiple Biblical references. Interesting.
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Date: 2007-01-06 05:37 am (UTC)The only reference I immediately think of is the Psalm--Thou art fairer than the children of men: grace is poured into thy lips: therefore God hath blessed thee for ever.
(Between this and Pan I really need to get to the cinema.)
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Date: 2007-01-06 05:45 am (UTC)Children of men--I'm pretty sure it's biblical, and Google has it showing up in Psalm 107 (http://www.bartleby.com/108/19/107.html) but I don't know if that's it or not. (The phrase also turns up in the book of Daniel and also Samuel, but in those cases I don't know how you could relate it to the movie at all.)
Of course, it could be something entirely different.
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Date: 2007-01-06 05:51 am (UTC)my favorite humorous bits were the baby names. and our entire theater made one unanimously shocked noise when theo (clive's character?) did the head-smash bit with the car batter(?)
but the best part was turning to my friend at the end and going, "Hm...the last big thing that Alfonso Cuaron made before this movie was...Harry Potter." makes you wonder a bit.
yeah - really incredible movie. not a movie to see "for fun".
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Date: 2007-01-06 05:54 am (UTC)That scene where Mirium is taken away and when Kee + Theo are walking out of that building and everyones just silent and staring, just... wow.
Julianne Moore getting killed off so quickly absolutely shocked me. As bad as it was, I love it when a movie sort of just throws something like that at you, so completely unexpected, and like you said, "This movie is telling you at this point that absolutely no one is safe".
And that whole pull-my-finger thing, holy crap. I pretty much hid behind my hands during that part. (Did we find out what happened to the dog? I can't remember)
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Date: 2007-01-06 05:58 am (UTC)I just ordered my copy of m15m!!!
I'm so excited!
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Date: 2007-01-06 05:58 am (UTC)I'll wait for the DVD. I think If I saw this in the theater, I'd go looking for one of those Suicide Kits after.
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Date: 2007-01-06 06:33 am (UTC)Another shot that I found beautiful was when the two characters were in the old children's school, and the other character was sitting on the swings outside. The two inside characters were on the left of the screen looking out the window, and you could see the third through the holes broken in a window a few meters down the wall just left of them. I don't want to give ANYTHING away, so I didn't even use names :P
I think I'm going to see it again tomorrow. It's definitely the greatest movie I've seen at the theatre in a long while.
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Date: 2007-01-06 07:09 am (UTC)"Intense" is definitely the word I heard more people using to describe it when we were leaving the theater. I was so shocked when Julianne Moore died but that really seemed to cement the tone of the whole film. It was just so sudden and so... holy crap did she just die? Even though things are just getting started? I was sitting in the second row and when Clive Owen pwned that guy with the brick, me and everyone around me practically jumped out of our chairs. And I cry at the drop of a hat and was crying during the whole scene when Kee was walking out of the building with the baby and everyone was kneeling down. The best part of that scene was how the soldiers all stopped shooting because they were witnessing a miracle and then just as fast they picked up their guns and started shooting again.
Did anyone else expect that giant inflatable pig to explode? I felt so anxious during that scene and kept waiting for it to happen. I guess those sort of scenes put you in the right mindside of living in a world where even the powerful cities are no longer safe and bombs can go off at any time. I mean, I know many places in the world are like that now but I don't think most people in the US for example wake up everyone morning and go about their business with the fear of terrorist attacks at any moment.
I feel like volunteering or doing something useful now.
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Date: 2007-01-06 09:44 am (UTC)I kind of know how people who were seeing Psycho in the theater for the first time felt now.
And I cry at the drop of a hat and was crying during the whole scene when Kee was walking out of the building with the baby and everyone was kneeling down.
I did too.
I mean, I know many places in the world are like that now but I don't think most people in the US for example wake up everyone morning and go about their business with the fear of terrorist attacks at any moment.
Interestingly, the theater was packed (apparently it's the local high school hangout, and showings of We Are Marshall were selling out, for some reason), so we had a long, long walk back to the car. And we talked about how the whole time we kept feeling like a storefront was about to blow out or something. For at least a little while afterwards, you're kind of keyed up to expect violence, and you start to understand what it would be like to live in a conflict zone.
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Date: 2007-01-06 09:54 am (UTC)The weird thing was, when the movie started out and it was all like THE WORLD COLLAPSES, BRITAIN CARRIES ON, I started having weird flashbacks to V for Vendetta ("ENGLAND PREVAILS!"). And there's two movies for you that are so incredibly different both in style and substance, and yet about similar things.
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Date: 2007-01-06 10:04 am (UTC)Has the Biblical Reference to Jesus being referred to by others as the Son of God and by himself as the Son of Man come up yet?
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Date: 2007-01-06 07:35 am (UTC)My cousin kept saying that she didn't like how dirty things were, the pollution and all that. I repeated, "They don't care, they're all going to die, it doesn't matter." I absolutely hated it when Jasper's end came, but I'm glad I heard he used the suicide kit on the dog too, at least I assume so from what one of the guys said, "A dead woman and a dog". My favorite scene: When they're walking down the stairs after Clive gets shot, and all the soldiers are just stoppping in their tracks when they hear/see the baby, and they let them walk on with some soldiers kneeling and crossing themselves. I love that scene.
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Date: 2007-01-06 09:53 am (UTC)PRECISELY.
I kept wondering 'wait, how did we end up like that?' and then I turned the TV on and... 'remembered' which kind of world I'm living it and it's no different. *shudder*
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but I think she may have been holding the arm in her other hand.
She most definitely is.
Julianne Moore dies, in pretty much the most sudden and shocking way possible.
I got spoilered on that point (in that I actually saw it before watching the rest of the movie), so I wasn't as shocked as visually mesmerized by the gorgeous(ly dramatic) composition/camerawork of that scene. Aww.
Maybe that's the reason I didn't find the movie very suspenseful. I knew, pretty much, that the characters that were going to die (Theo, in particular), would. It was just a matter of where, when and how. *sigh* :(
there's a fairly long sequence following Owen in a dash from ruin to ruin where there's three drops of blood on the lens for the whole scene.
I usually am not a fan of the blood/dirt on camera effect -- but the way Cuaron uses it, it's hardly (ever) accidental. It's... I don't know, very 'in the watcher's face'. The whomping willow shakes snow off its branches and you jump on your seat a little because 'hey! that's just rude' and you can almost feel the colid semisolid washing off your skin. Same with the blood that splatters all over the (back of the) car, when Julianne is shot (or in the abovementioned scene(, and... you got some in your eyes, too, for a while. It's very appropriate, and amazing.
"Fuck! Why didn't you use the suicide kit! I'm sure there was enough for both of you!"
But the Fishes would've reprised their hunting a lot earlier/quicker, had said person used the suicide kit too!
For some reason, I think that was the most visceral reaction from the audience in the entire movie, and it wasn't anywhere near the most graphic or harrowing
I too reacted kind of strong(er)ly to that; I think it's because Theo is such a positive (and quiet) character, and that's but the second 'act of violence' that you see him perform on another human being.
Oh, sorry for the longish re:comment. I really enjoyed reading yours, and it got me furtherly pondering over my own reactions to the movie. Thanks for sharing your thoughts. :)
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Date: 2007-01-06 10:12 am (UTC)But the Fishes would've reprised their hunting a lot earlier/quicker, had said person used the suicide kit too!
See, we were talking about that, and I was like, "Except for Theo WASTING THE TIME he was buying them by watching the whole thing!"
I too reacted kind of strong(er)ly to that; I think it's because Theo is such a positive (and quiet) character, and that's but the second 'act of violence' that you see him perform on another human being.
I think also that Theo serves as the audience substitute--most heroes do, being drawn in to some kind of mission or quest, and plunging into some new world they and the audience have to struggle through. So really, it probably gets a visceral reaction because it's the first time (or the second) that "you" get to strike back.
Maybe that's the reason I didn't find the movie very suspenseful. I knew, pretty much, that the characters that were going to die
This is why I went in trying to avoid as many spoilers as possible--I'm still not sure how I did it, because I usually get spoiled even when I'm not trying to. This is probably the first movie in a long, long time where I literally knew nothing except what I had seen in the trailer. I could still extrapolate that, you know, Kee and Theo weren't going to die at that moment because we hadn't gotten to the part in the boat yet, but I also sat there thinking, "Yeah, they spend a lot of time running around by themselves in that trailer. Shit, everyone's going to die, aren't they?"
I got spoilered on that point (in that I actually saw it before watching the rest of the movie), so I wasn't as shocked as visually mesmerized by the gorgeous(ly dramatic) composition/camerawork of that scene.
I have to say, the moment in the trailer where the Molotov cocktail hits the--front window? I can't remember which way the car is turned at that point--but it's timed in the trailer so that you're not expecting it at all? That was the moment when I said, "I have to see this movie." I mean, I was going to anyway, just because of Cuaron and Owen and Moore, but that's when I got a glimmering of the kind of experience it was going to be.
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Date: 2007-01-06 11:34 am (UTC)A friend of mine went to see it twice and he said he noticed a lot more detail, both in the plot and adverts/graffiti the second time. I'm sorry too it's not being noticed more during awards season. Clive Owen gave a great performance.
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Date: 2007-01-06 02:39 pm (UTC)But I am so going to go see this.
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Date: 2007-01-06 04:56 pm (UTC)me as much as it did on you, though. I went to see it mostly for the incredible and pertinent premise (not having read the book), so it was slightly disappointing to see it deteriorate into what was, essentially, a "villains chase heroes" plot. I loved Cuarón's style, his vision of the future, and the great cinematography, but, for such a great premise, I found the last 2/3 of the movie a very stylish, but ultimately hollow action flick. Not much is made of that terrifying background that rings so close to home, and it made me wonder about why they bothered to set it up so carefully if it was just a pretext for saving the damsel.
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Date: 2007-01-08 11:00 pm (UTC)But, I would love to know why they couldn't have kids.
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Date: 2007-01-06 05:55 pm (UTC)Anyway I'm glad I was able to read your review because you hit on pretty much everything that I had been feeling.