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Wrote 3000 words last night without realizing it--I just started typing up ideas I'd had and before I knew it, I'd outlined most of the second half of the story. I'd been struggling with this idea that there are three characters on a journey who each have arcs--lest that sound totally pretentious, they are literally on a journey to somewhere. This is for the fantasy thing I'm writing, by the way--and they each gain something at the end. But I realized there was a slight distinction I was making--I was giving them rewards without actually having them earn it. How had each character actually changed, you know? It's sort of the difference between having a timid character shriek his way through a story and be rewarded for simply surviving vs. having that timid character find some courage inside himself and emerge a stronger person. I realized I was letting characters see too clearly too soon. Having them realize, "Oh, this is what I need to do" is going to clear up the problem too quickly. If I have them realize, "Oh, this is what I need to do, but... aw, hell, I really don't want to do that," we might have something to work with. Maybe they're not ready to change because of greed, or fear, or doubt, or physical weakness; it's different for each character, of course. So I went back through several different points and did some attitude corrections--"No, he's still got to be fairly uncooperative at this point. And drunk"--and I feel pretty good about the whole thing.

"Heaven Can Wait" star Jack Warden dies at 85. Awww, I loved him in While You Were Sleeping.

The new full trailer for The Fountain. It's amazing. I just keep watching it, and watching it...

New pictures: Scoop, The Ant Bully, Little Miss Sunshine, Casino Royale.

A status report on Neil Gaiman's roster of film adaptations.

Wrangler on a Snake:

This is the office of Jules Sylvester, Hollywood snake wrangler and behind-the-scenes star of the upcoming movie "Snakes on a Plane." A professional animal trainer for 27 years, Sylvester has done more than 330 movies, plus countless commercials and photo shoots. "Vermin wranglers is what we are," says the jovial 55-year-old herpetologist, owner of Reptile Rentals. "Everything nobody likes, we've got it."

"My big criteria on this movie was do not hurt my snakes," says Sylvester, who names all his animals but then affectionately calls them "sweetheart." No snakes were injured during the production, he says but Jackson "flogged the snot" out of the rubber stand-ins.
Radical Snake Action is, by the way, the name of my new imaginary band.

Fear of Snakes Drove Primate Evolution, Scientist Says. Damn straight.

A fun twist on the anonymous hate meme: you can only express your rage and loathing as someone else's character. "Elmo's not in the mood for your moralizing bullshit, Big Bird."

 Look at the rose... then read the description. Amazing. (Thanks, [livejournal.com profile] alpheratz!)


Late-breaking ETA: 'Pirates' salts away $321.7M over 17 days, remains #1.



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Date: 2006-07-23 07:20 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] junebugged.livejournal.com
The Fountain is going to be Hugh's Oscar movie. Darren's too.

And if not, I'll make my own Academy Awards to give them. I canNOT wait for this movie. You can probably hear my squeeing from there.

Date: 2006-07-23 07:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cleolinda.livejournal.com
I remember reading a very vague, very enthusiastic script review on Corona Coming Attractions back in the day. Corona doesn't even EXIST now. I've been waiting for this movie for--what, at least five years?--from back when it was going to star Brad Pitt and Cate Blanchett. And... I like Brad, but... no. Not after having seen the trailer. I really don't know that he has the necessary gravitas. And Rachel Weisz just seems to get lovelier and lovelier.

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Date: 2006-07-23 07:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] corkdorkdan.livejournal.com
The Fountain does look very interesting, but what is up with Rachel Weisz and bathtub scenes lately? There was a fully clothed one in Constantine, and a sudsy pregnant one in Constant Gardner. The trailer shows yet another sudsy one in this movie. Apparently it's the latest Hollywood trend, after nude scenes and bedroom scenes we will soon have bathtub scenes that define an actress's risk factor!

Not that I'm complaining.

Date: 2006-07-23 07:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] scornedsaint.livejournal.com
I am so damn excited for "The Fountain"

Congrats on your 3000 words! Pop yourself some champagne or other celabratory equivalent!

Date: 2006-07-23 07:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rebel-waltz.livejournal.com
those roses are insane.

Date: 2006-07-23 07:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] t4-flirt.livejournal.com
Hurrah on your 3000 words.

And omfg, did that character hate-meme thing make me LAUGH.
I sooooo need that type of a release right now. Maybe I'll go post on there in character. Perhaps that will help me cope with all my 'drama'.

And speaking of crack-teh-F-up, check out the awesome post made yesterday by my dear bibliotech.
http://bibliotech.livejournal.com/448494.html

It's right along that line...

Date: 2006-07-23 07:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] akathorne.livejournal.com

The new full trailer for The Fountain. It's amazing. I just keep watching it, and watching it...

I am obsessed, yo. I can't freaking wait, it looks so fantastic.

That rose is pretty freaky. And now I kind of want white chocolate...

Date: 2006-07-23 07:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cleolinda.livejournal.com
She's got a whole gallery full of roses, they're amazing.

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Date: 2006-07-23 07:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ennuiticverses.livejournal.com
omg. *Drools over the Fountain* i heard about that in passing some time last year but long since thought the concept had faded into dreamland, i am so excited!

Date: 2006-07-23 08:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lee-in-limbo.livejournal.com
The Fountain looks absolutely fascinating. I will have to see that.

L o L,
thanks you for pointing it out

Date: 2006-07-23 08:22 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] msilverstar
Your bit about the fantasy novel and charachter development rings very true to me. I'm impressed that you're going to do it right, I just read a Bujold novel which was weak in that area. (It's The Sharing Knife: Beguilement -- someone sold their review copy to the local bookstore, and it's not coming out until Ocober.)

Date: 2006-07-23 10:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cleolinda.livejournal.com
I'll be honest with you, part of what got me thinking about it was the writers' commentary on the first POTC DVD. They say at one point, "What does this character do at the end that he wouldn't have done at the beginning?" And interesting things like that. And of course I've heard other fun tips as I took writing classes over the years--"a character's got to want something, even if it's just a glass of water," etc. And I read up on the hero's journey at Wikipedia, and a lot of the things I already had fit the pattern, so I got to say, "Well, what's supposed to happen next that I don't have?" Usually I don't have to hash this kind of thing out so intellectually; it's more of an intuitive process. But this time it's gotten kind of complex--two children on a quest (to get home after a shipwreck), which is kind of easy because it turns into your basic coming-of-age kind of thing; and three characters on a quest to find those children, and I finally realized the searchers each needed to want something more than "to find the children." And then I realized I was having a hard time getting them to their secondary goals because I wasn't making it hard enough for them to achieve them. All this mental discussion started out as a way of saying, "I'm blocked because I don't know what to do. What, logically, *needs* to happen?"

Date: 2006-07-23 08:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] remys-haven.livejournal.com
The hate meme made me laugh so hard I think I coughed up a lung. :) lol.

xoxxo ash

Date: 2006-07-23 08:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] redmapletree.livejournal.com
Those roses are amazing.

Also, Cleo, a question for you--you don't have to answer if you don't want to, but I was wondering how you deal with writer's block. I used to write prolifically, and for months now I've just been feeling...stuck.

Obviously, if there's some top-secret Cleo method I can't be privy to, that's all right. :) But I do idolize you, and advice would be lovely.

Date: 2006-07-23 11:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cleolinda.livejournal.com
No problem! I think there's actually several strains of writer's block, and there is one that really is kind of incurable, and you just have to ride it out. I hate that kind. However:

Sometimes, I feel like my creativity is tied to hormonal cycles, and there's usually a week in there I don't feel like doing shit (and it's not the week you'd think, either). There's another week when I usually feel extremely creative, so I try to make hay while the sun shines and not beat myself up too hard over the off week.

Other times, I feel like I write myself out and I feel kind of empty, even though there's more I'd like to say. I've come to believe that writers need a balance of input and output, so if you feel kind of empty, maybe you need stimulation--a book, a movie, something like that. Reading biographies (queens, mostly) often helps me. Something that's in the vein of what I'm trying to write also helps--partly because you can see what's already been done, and maybe play off that and go, "What if my characters did the opposite of that? What if..." and so on.

Sometimes it's a matter of confidence, which it sounds like it might be with you, if it's been several months. I have all kinds of old tricks for getting around that--I'd write on white printer paper, diagonally, in red ink, type in Arial font--anything I had to do to convince myself visually that whatever I was writing Did Not Count. It was just notes, you see. Not Real Writing that had to be Good. And I'd write--I still write, mostly--in sort of a sketchy present tense, like "She walks down the stairs, I don't know what she sees when she gets there--maybe So-and-So?" and kind of talk myself through it. Often I'll slip into proper narrative past tense after I've written a while. Other times, it just helps me to block out what I want to describe later.

(This is why I was so up a creek writing the 15M book, by the way, because you can't do Narrative Sketchy with humor.)

In what way do you feel blocked, though? You have ideas and feel uneasy about trying to write about them? You can't think of the ideas in the first place? You have your idea but you don't know where to go next?

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Date: 2006-07-23 09:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] casirafics.livejournal.com
Oh, guh. Thank you for the Fountain trailer -- I've been looking forward to finding out more about this movie, and now I want to see it NOW.

As for the chocolate roses, I've seen things like that before, but they still amaze me every time. How anyone could actually bear to eat them afterwards is beyond me. ;)

Date: 2006-07-23 09:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] almostnever.livejournal.com
The Fountain trailer is beautiful, thanks for linking.

The Fountain website, however, is so bad it actively pissed me off. It's just a series of lava-lamp-like screens with music playing. Now, me, I have a novel idea: how about putting the movie's release date on the official website, since... that's what 90% of people will be looking for.

Whereas I don't know what percent of the potential audience is hoping for a lava-lamp soundscape, but I'd have to guess it's around 0.0000000000000000001%.

Date: 2006-07-23 11:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cleolinda.livejournal.com
Heh. I think it's coming out in the fall, so they probably won't get their ass in gear until the second trailer. Say what you want about Disney, but they make awesome movie websites--the ones for both Narnia and POTC2 had lots to do.

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Date: 2006-07-23 10:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lilychick.livejournal.com
Three things:

1) Yay for fantasy progress!

2) The character hate meme is the new best thing ever. I love it and will share it with others.

3) I think your new band name of Radical Snake Action beats mine, Robot Suicide. Shoot. Back to the drawing board.

Date: 2006-07-23 10:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theonlykow.livejournal.com
I need The Fountain more than I need oxygen.

Also: CRAZY CHOCOLATE ROSE!

Date: 2006-07-23 11:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] syneblue.livejournal.com
"flogged the snot" is now my new Favorite Thing Ever.

Date: 2006-07-24 12:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alexthedevil.livejournal.com
Those roses are insane.

Date: 2006-07-24 01:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] t4-flirt.livejournal.com
your icon is beautiful

Date: 2006-07-24 04:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-bumper-car.livejournal.com
From here, (http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/news/la-fi-disney19jul19,0,103763.story?coll=la-home-entertainment) Nina Jacobson, a.k.a. the woman who wisely told M. Night Shyalaman to take Lady in the Water and peddle it elsewhere, was, and I quote, "fired Monday morning by her boss, studio Chairman Dick Cook, when she called him from the hospital room where her partner was about to deliver their third child. Despite the record-breaking performance of Disney's current release, "Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest," she was hearing rumors and wanted reassurance that her job was safe."

Damn, that's cold. And stupid.

Date: 2006-07-24 04:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kosher-jenny.livejournal.com
From the IGN link:

-Good Omens: Terry Gilliam, who was originally asked to direct Stardust, is back on the project, though it is still in the early stages of development.

My gut reaction? YAY. But after a second thought, after how long this movie has been in Development Hell I can't even muster enough to be cautiously optimistic. :(

Date: 2006-07-24 05:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wirrrn.livejournal.com
Hey,

I'm just hoping THE ANT BULLY gets the entomology right. I *still* can't watch A BUG'S LIFE without throwing things at the screen and yelling "Just eat the $^^@#! grasshoppers! You're insectivores!" and "A baby ant?! Auuugh!"

Don't even get me started on CHARLOTTE'S WEB *g*

Date: 2006-07-24 10:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shebit.livejournal.com
Those chocolate roses are stunning. I particularly loved the arrangement with the dark chocolate leaves. You wouldn't want to eat them, they're so beautiful, but I could see them a decorations for a wedding, especially on the cake.

Date: 2006-07-24 02:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theatre-angel.livejournal.com
I can't remember the last time the world was as excited for a movie as they are for Snakes on a Plane.

Date: 2006-07-25 12:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] christwise.livejournal.com
Dude, when I watched The Fountain trailer I choked up a little.

The graphic novel is really good if you don't mind spoilers.

Date: 2006-07-25 12:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cleolinda.livejournal.com
Dude, I choke up too. It's the end with "Together, we can live forever" that gets me.

I did hear that the graphic novel is a different version of the story--the original script which has since changed, so it doesn't *completely* give away the movie. At the same time--I keep hearing that the movie/story is going to Blow Your Mind, so I kind of want to see what happens in any version of it.

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Date: 2006-07-25 02:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] greensounds.livejournal.com
I apologize for just throwing myself at your feet, but when I think "hollywood smalltalk", I think you, and thus, hopefully, you could point me in the right direction.

I've just discovered/realized that spiderman 3, shrek 3, and potc 3 are all coming out summer 07. And my head is spinning with 'what does this mean?' and 'what's going to happen?' and 'who's going to win?' and 'OMG justin better not screw up pirates!'. I would love to find some messageboard or lj comm that just shoots the shit and discusses that stuff, however, I have no idea where to look for one of those, since my pop culture expertise lies more in the socialite gossip blogs area than box office numbers. Do you have any recommendations for places that wouldn't mind a newbie?

Date: 2006-07-28 01:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gravities.livejournal.com
Oh God. The Count's comment was not there when I last read the Elmo thread. Ell Oh Ell. :D

Date: 2006-07-28 01:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cleolinda.livejournal.com
Heeeeeeeeeeeee, I didn't see that until you pointed it out!
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