Okay, I'm curious--since the movie is getting such mixed reviews in the press, I'd like to get some numbers on what actual people think. Not that my journal is by any means a scientific sampling, but you go to poll with the population you've got, if you see what I mean.
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Date: 2006-07-07 04:57 pm (UTC)You should've just called the last option "Lisa Schwartzbaum."
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Date: 2006-07-07 05:11 pm (UTC)(I still maintain that the first one is sort of a classic in its own time because it basically deconstructed the wheel and then reinvented it, as the genre goes. Unless there's a way to deconstruct "pirate sequels," and I don't know that there are enough of them to really do so, they were pretty much doomed to just make a straightforward pirate movie this time.)
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Date: 2006-07-07 05:14 pm (UTC)> The film felt incomplete, as though its only reason for existing was to set up the next one. No plot arcs got resolved, which left the ending unsatisfying. Note to Jerry Bruckheimer: learn from JK Rowling.
> They made so many references to funny jokes in the original that they failed to make any new ones.
> All the action sequences got exhausting. How many times did we really need to fight the kraken?
> The whole first bit with the canibal tribe was extraneous. Funny, but extraneous. And LONG.
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Date: 2006-07-07 05:34 pm (UTC)The tone of DMC, too, was markedly different from the first movie. Things have changed, so the situation wasn't quite as cool and linear as it had been back in CotBP. I can see why some people might find it jarring. It's a bit like comparing the tone of A New Hope - a movie that could easily stand on its own - to the darker, more desperate, chaotic tone of The Empire Strikes Back. Some people might hate it, some people might like it. For my part, I liked it a lot. I just have a difficult time getting really excited over villains who are composed mainly of pixels. The Coleridgian-undead pirates felt more real to me than pixellated-barnacle people. But the undead pirates don't have a kraken at their disposal, so that makes Davy Jones and his crew okay.
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Date: 2006-07-07 05:45 pm (UTC)I thought it was better than the first, IMNSHO, and I was incredibly enamored with the first one (Eight times in theaters, what?) I mean, I was honestly worried it wouldn't live up to the first, and it did. I generally loathe the second film in a series, but I really enjoyed this.
I liked the character changes, the love triangle (good LORD, Jack Sparrow should just whore out his services: he has chemistry with everyone), the references to the first film. Basically, like Lord of the Rings, this film was totally for the fans. And I like how it wavers between parody and honest-to-goodness action flick. I love Jack Sparrow more than I did for the first film! (Near impossible, that.)
So yes. 3.5 stars of awesomeness.
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Date: 2006-07-07 06:00 pm (UTC)I really liked Jack Sparrow, as I always do, and I think Jonny does an excellent job of BEING the character much more than, say, Orlando or Keira do at PLAYING the characters. The plot was a little ehhh but I didn't care because JONNY.
And the two pirate guys from the first one were hilarious, I love them so much.
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Date: 2006-07-07 06:28 pm (UTC)I've read a lot of the reivews, and I can see where the reviewers are coming from. I didn't think it was as good as the first and they were trying way too hard. Everything felt a bit forced, whereas the first felt more free-wheeling. It's not orginial - as we've seen Capt. Jack and his swagger once before.
It feels like a sequel, made to extract more money from the pockets of people who loved the first. I think it's lost it's heart and, as a result, the comedy is more stillted and not as amusing.
It is entirely possible that everything will come together with the third one, so that's what I'm waiting for.
Like I said, I thought it was good, and it was tons of fun, but it is a shadow of the orginial. I think if you enjoyed the first, you'll most likely enjoy the second, though it's possible you'll be disapointed.
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Date: 2006-07-07 06:55 pm (UTC)The self-referential recycling of jokes also started to bug me. No, guys, you're not that cute.
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Date: 2006-07-07 07:20 pm (UTC)I will probably see it again. It had old favorites and at least one new character who rocked my local sector of the space time continuum, so I am well pleased.
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Date: 2006-07-07 07:40 pm (UTC)I knew there was something that kept me from being totally 100% in love. And it was the STUPID CANNIBAL ISLAND.
Lolz @ the krakken saliva.
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Date: 2006-07-07 07:26 pm (UTC)but i did enjoy it and i would see it again just so i'm not sitting on the edge of the 3rd row.
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Date: 2006-07-07 09:22 pm (UTC)That being said, I did enjoy DMC immensely. Norrington... the gypsy queen... Bill Nighy... fighting the urge to punch that little pip-squeak (Mr. Collins in Knightley's P&P)who was causing all the trouble... the two pirates from the first film... Davy Jones...
When you think about it, we're complaining a lot, but as far as sequels go this was a lot better than what Hollywood usually delivers. And I'm sure the film is going to grow on people over time. Right now it's just the shock of seeing something that - ZOMG! - isn't EXACTLY like the first film.
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Date: 2006-07-07 10:15 pm (UTC)Went to the midnight showing, and there were people dressed up like pirates. They even put a mast (2x4) on thier car and put a Pirate Flag ontop. That was pretty hardcore.
I'll see it again in theaters with my friends, and we'll bring Lamby from
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Date: 2006-07-07 10:36 pm (UTC)recycledself-referential jokes, too many confusing plot twists with no actual plot to back them up.no subject
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