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Jul. 4th, 2006 11:55 pm
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ZOMG, TEH KRAKEN.

Just acquired and still listening to the POTC2 soundtrack; will have to get back to you as to relative quality as compared to the first movie. It uses a lot of the themes from the previous score, but it's more complex and more richly orchestrated and... as a result, I kind of don't like it as much so far. Like, it's not the stupidcrackearcandy that the first one is. LESS ATMOSPHERE, MORE ACTION! I know, I'm a philistine.

(I still can't quite get over the Baby Pirate song. "And that's a peg below me knee!" Maybe it's because I'm imagining my stephew singing it.)

(Speaking of baby pirates, the "Davy Jones" track reminds me a lot of a baby crib mobile at the beginning and end. It's... odd.)

Keira Knightley plays down anorexia rumors. I love how, after our discussion today, this article appeared at, like, the speed of thought. However, as discussed here, I think I believe her on this one--anorexics are underweight, but if you're underweight you're not necessarily anorexic. That said? EAAAAAT SOMETHIIIIIIING.

Keith Richards to Be in 'Pirates' Movie. As we have heard many times. And they do keep saying, "It's not certain until he's actually on the set," I imagine because rock-star wrangling is hard. I'm also not entirely sure how this is going to work, as I thought that sunlight killed vampires. (Aw, Keef. I kid. Seriously, the old--early '90s?--episode of SNL where Mike Myers played Mick Jagger and Mick Jagger played Keith Richards makes me laugh just thinking about it. Can't find it on YouTube, though.)

Depp dazzles again in 2nd "Pirates" escapade. Basically, this is a review--with same spoiler that pissed me off in the other one, i.e., what's actually in the chest, because apparently I live under a rock (AND I LIKE IT).

Meanwhile, there were some family tensions earlier in the evening, but frequent applications of barbecued ribs to the afflicted persons improved the situation somewhat. Also, there were brownies. I got a teensy bit of writing done today, but was interrupted (by said dinner) and didn't get back to it. I feel creative yet scattered, like I can't quite focus, but I'd like to.


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Date: 2006-07-05 04:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lezopez.livejournal.com
Heeeeeee I love that song! Last time I was at the movies they showed a trailer for PotC and I audibly squealed at Teh Kraken, which confused the hell outta my friends. "Uh... what's with the giant squid?" "ZOMG ITS A KRAKEN!"

Damnit, I may have to actually shell out for this OST. I'm digging it way more than the first one (which I actually loved, a lot)


Icon love! ;-)

Date: 2006-07-05 05:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cleolinda.livejournal.com
[livejournal.com profile] ostnotes. Go to "tags directory" on the sidebar. I'm just saying.

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Date: 2006-07-05 05:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tabbyclaw.livejournal.com
And they do keep saying, "It's not certain until he's actually on the set," I imagine because rock-star wrangling is hard.

Also 'cause they have to clear all dangerous palm trees from a 20-mile radius around the set.

Date: 2006-07-05 05:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] julianelupin.livejournal.com
As for that spoiler (which hit me by surprise as well)... maybe mention that it's revealed in Rolling Stone (http://www.rollingstone.com)'s interview with Johnny Depp as well (available online here (http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/10714717/the_last_buccaneer). It's a great article. Just avoid the second page of it if you don't want to run into that terrible awful no-good very bad spoiler. ;)

Date: 2006-07-05 05:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cleolinda.livejournal.com
Man, that's a good interview.

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Date: 2006-07-05 05:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] butindreams.livejournal.com
I got the same spoiler (what's in the chest), along with few couple others in a Tribute (http://www.tribute.ca/) KIDS magazine! It was just like, little tidbits about the movie, except not just little tidbits, but major plot points (presumably). So not impressed.

Date: 2006-07-05 06:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] boundandchained.livejournal.com
Well damn. This computer has NO SPEAKERS. *facedesk*

Date: 2006-07-05 10:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shebit.livejournal.com
I was interested to see on the PotC2 poster that Zimmer had been promoted to composer this time, rather than just supposedly producing Klaus Badelt's score, as the credits for the first film suggested.

About six years ago - on whenever it was that Gladiator came out - Hans Zimmer was promoted into my list of favourite film scorers - knocking Horner off the list, because he gave up doing anything remotely interesting some time in the 90s.

I liked the score for PotC, but though that the orchestrations were a little ... the best may I can describe it is that at times it almost sounds like sampled instruments or even midi at points. I don't know who was to blame for that, as Baselt, Badami and Zimmer all had a hand in the music.

Anyway, what this is leading to - in a long-winded way - is saying that I'm really looking forward to hearing the ways in which Zimmer has reworked and hopefully improved on what were already really good themes.

Date: 2006-07-05 12:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cleolinda.livejournal.com
Well, what they say on the DVD is that the movie went from idea to finished in a *year*, which is *nothing.* I think at one point on the commentary Johnny Depp says, "Who ended up doing the music?" And Gore Verbinksi says (direct quote), "Uh, like six people." Apparently they were all frantically working simultaneously, and while he gives the credit for the major theme composition to Badelt, it seems like they had a crew of people working as fast as they could to finish the music. And apparently they'd record each instrument separately--the strings would come in and record, the brass would come in and record--just because that was the only way they could schedule them. It *does* have a bit of an artificial, slapdash quality (despite the awesomeness of the themes on their own), and I think that's why--and it's why the second soundtrack sounds so different, because it's clearly had the hell orchestrated out of it.

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Date: 2006-07-05 02:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] all-ephemera.livejournal.com
I still giggle when I think of the liner notes on the soundtrack from the 1st movie: "Score overproduced by..." and it goes on to list everyone. Dude, they admit it right there! Right up front. That's love.

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Date: 2006-07-05 11:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pescivendolo.livejournal.com
Underweight=/=anorexia, but new and sudden underweightness often = cokehead.

Just sayin'.

Date: 2006-07-05 12:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cleolinda.livejournal.com
Yeah, I was saying that over on Snarkfest. Didn't she have some wild 21st birthday party a couple of months back? I mean, it would break my fannish heart, but I think coke is far more likely than clinical anorexia.

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Date: 2006-07-05 12:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bubosquared.livejournal.com
Re: Keef--I just really, really want them to introduce his character by having him fall out of a palm tree. Because that would be awesome.

Date: 2006-07-05 12:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bubosquared.livejournal.com
ALSO! (Sorry, braindead over here.)

That said? EAAAAAT SOMETHIIIIIIING.

And don't wear dresses that emphasise just how thin you are. Actually, don't wear that dress ever, whoever you are, because cleave down to the waist? Damn, and I thoguht my pirate outfit would be walking the line.

Date: 2006-07-05 01:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] naeelah.livejournal.com
but frequent applications of barbecued ribs to the afflicted persons improved the situation somewhat.

I have to say, the first thing I thought of when I read this was that you'd been showing off the picture of Keira Knightly... although I didn't see how that would improve any situation, except to distract people with horror...

Date: 2006-07-05 05:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cleolinda.livejournal.com
No, but I daresay Keira could do with a few applications of barbecue.

Date: 2006-07-05 01:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] missmp.livejournal.com
The "OMG, Kiera's anorexic!" stuff has been bugging me b/c my best friend is slim like that, and whenever she got the flu and lost five pounds she had to deal with people asking her if she was anorexic.

Then again, she never went out wearing a glorified scarf as a top and acting shocked that people found it disturbing that her sternum was showing. Anyway. I still love Kiera, so I'm going to stick my fingers in my ears and sing la la la until she eats some burgers and this blows over.

I'm glad your writing is going well. You sound really happy, which is always cool. :-)

Date: 2006-07-05 02:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] quenbolyn.livejournal.com
The "OMG, Kiera's anorexic!" stuff has been bugging me b/c my best friend is slim like that, and whenever she got the flu and lost five pounds she had to deal with people asking her if she was anorexic.

Same here. Though I have a suspicion that people wouldn't feel the need to be so concerned if I/Keira had breasts.

Then again, she never went out wearing a glorified scarf as a top and acting shocked that people found it disturbing that her sternum was showing.

Hell, I used to pad my clothing to look curvier. I KNOW that wearing a glorified scarf in public would just open a whole can of trouble for me.

Date: 2006-07-05 01:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] adoresixtyfour.livejournal.com
The mention of Mike Myers as Mick and Mick as Keith reminded me of Tim Curry as Mick on an earlier SNL. He winds up tongue-kissing Sheri lewis and Lamb Cop (yes, the puppet). Don't ask.

I don't think Keira has an eating disorder. Hasn't she always been skinny as a broomstick? But she is wafer-thin, no question 'bout that.

Date: 2006-07-05 02:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] undying-rose17.livejournal.com
What I find amusing is that in all the reviews I've read, they misspell "Kraken." The one you just posted there spelled it "Kraker." And I think the last one spelled it "Kracken."

Seriously. It's not a difficult word to spell correctly.

Date: 2006-07-05 05:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cleolinda.livejournal.com
I know! I saw both of those. On this one, I was like, "He named his giant octosquid 'Cracker'?"

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Date: 2006-07-05 02:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] all-ephemera.livejournal.com
I'm in such spasms for another POTC soundtrack and movie. I almost don't care if the movie isn't as good because the one line from all the previews of Jack Sparrow talking about waving at moments as they pass by is sweet, sweet music. Heh.

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Date: 2006-07-05 02:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] scornedsaint.livejournal.com
My Study of Shakespeare class had this bizarre infatuation with the Kraken (I cannot remember why; I think it's because one guy could draw a really funny cartoon one) that completely took over by the end of the year. We even have Khronicle of the Kraken in our yearbooks (Zoolander!Kraken! Brokeback!Kraken! Pirate!Kraken!). I am so damn excited for just the kraken-related parts of this movie it is not even funny.

Date: 2006-07-05 04:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] demented-pants.livejournal.com
From that second review:
This imagery gets repeated in his pet sea monster, Kraker, a giant version of his head.
Did he name the thing, or is the writer just a dumbtard?

Date: 2006-07-05 05:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cleolinda.livejournal.com
The latter, I fear.

Date: 2006-07-05 05:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aliaspiral.livejournal.com
Just in case you havent seen it, because, really, DANCING PIRATES.

Pirates of the Caribbean Dance Competition (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HE_BMbPBY2I)

Dancing! Pirates!

Date: 2006-07-05 06:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_stormthesea/
You posting about Keira Knightley is a nice complement to my friends page, since we've been discussing (http://community.livejournal.com/ed_ucate/686539.html) the whole keira!anorexic rumors over at [livejournal.com profile] ed_ucate. Honestly, I have ED-NOS and have been both restricting and purging type (at different times), and, honestly, if someone asks you on a red carpet if you're killing yourself to be beautiful, you don't respond with, "Oh, yeah, sure! Not eating is my hobby!" Also, EDs are trivialized when it is implied that they are all about weight. If Keira Knightley gained twenty pounds but was throwing up every meal she ate, people wouldn't accuse her of having an eating disorder so long as she didn't look underweight.

But (less) seriously, that dress she wore at the premiere was mad fug.

Date: 2006-07-05 07:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cleolinda.livejournal.com
Yeah, my understanding is that pure bulimics are usually five pounds *overweight*, so people don't tend to call them out the way they do anorexics. And, seriously, that's an excellent point--what's she going to say? "Actually, yes, I am. All I've eaten for a month is celery. *sob*"?

She did say in a later version of the article, though, "I'm not, but if it gets the issue out in the open so that people are talking about it, that's good." Which I thought was classy, but also indicated that she's probably not anorexic.

And I know what you mean by trivializing the issue by making it about weight--I was never diagnosed per se, but when I was 13-15, I had a starving/binging routine (no purging; I'd basically starve for a few days until I was too hungry to stand it anymore) and I lost a lot of weight. But a lot of it was me being in a very bitter/rebellious teenage phase, and wanting to have *something* I could control. A lot of times, "I'll show YOU" was at the back of my mind--and directed towards my mother, not towards my peers. Like, she could make dinner, but she couldn't make me eat it. I truly believe that on a large level it was not about my weight, because if I'd only been doing it to lose weight, I'd still be doing it, and I seriously cannot bring myself to starve like that anymore. And I think it's because I don't have *those* control issues now.

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Date: 2006-07-05 08:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] troubleinchina.livejournal.com
I'm actually going to watch the first Pirates movie tonight so I can at least know what's going on in the second one tomorrow. I is very excited. :)

Could I trouble you to do a linkspam? It's superheroes and stuffs, a podcast called Orphans. I talk about it a bit (http://troubleinchina.livejournal.com/62256.html) in my LJ, but the interesting stuff is on their splash page (http://www.fishclock.ca/orphans.html) for the podcast.

Date: 2006-07-05 08:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yarha.livejournal.com
That would be the notorious 'Phil McKraken'?

Yarha, Just..Just Kiddin'

Date: 2006-07-05 09:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] spooke.livejournal.com
If only overweight people could transfer their fat-energy to the needy. We'd be thinner, they'd be more plump, we'd all be happy. We could dedicate eat-a-thons to the starving people in Africa.

My theory is that anything that can be imagined can be done, with the proper technology. COME ON, JAPAN!

Date: 2006-07-06 04:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] serizawa3000.livejournal.com
Okay, so I'm listening to "The Kraken" track over and over, trying to figure out what I think of it. I collect movie soundtracks, but I haven't picked up the POTC soundtrack. I think about getting it every so often but well, I still don't have it. I'm thinking I might pick up this one just for "The Kraken" alone... and I'm curious about the "Davy Jones" theme as well...

"The Kraken" sounds, um... well, it's all over the place, it seems. Which might be the point. Flying tentacles and all that. It starts out sneaky, then I dare say it goes into "AIIIEEEE! GODZILLA!" mode. And then there's that bit that sounds like an orchestrated version of a rock guitar solo... I like the brass best, along with the percussion accompanied by the (just barely audible) voices... and then there's the Halloween-sounding organ...
I wonder if these bits I'm hearing are meant to be thematic elements for characters or whatever... or just trying to convey in music the chaos of Kraken attack...

I dunno, what's the music for a pirate movie usually supposed to sound like?

Date: 2006-07-06 05:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] boundandchained.livejournal.com
Not like a video game, which is what that snippet sounds like to me.

*cries*

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