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Second thoughts and questions:

[livejournal.com profile] ginmar: Who the hell is that goober, anyway? I mean----huh? He's going to do one Bond movie to cries of sheer outrage, and then he's going to be tossed into the dustbin.

[livejournal.com profile] cleolinda: Well, here's the impression I'm getting from the comments on [the previous] entry (or what I've read so far): he's actually quite charismatic and attractive in his own way. My question is, why did they pick someone that people are going to initially look at, as most of us just did, and go, "Who? WHAT? WHY??" Why did they pick someone that it would be an uphill job to sell?


I would love to see this guy's audition tapes, I guess is what I'm saying (she said, watching Gladiator on a continuous loop from her bed).



And now Daniel Craig may not be doing it anyway. Bond franchise, you have called wolf on us too many times.



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Date: 2005-04-06 07:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] brittanygrace.livejournal.com
mmmm...graham crackers =D

Date: 2005-04-06 07:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ayn-rand-fan-13.livejournal.com
I always picture James Bond as being instantly labeled as "sexy". Charasmatic is good, but it's not James Bond.

Date: 2005-04-06 07:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crumpeteer.livejournal.com
He just looks so un-Bondish to me. I mean I could actually see him more playing a Bond villain than Bond himself.

Frankly I'm sort of hoping Clive doesn't take the job. He seems to be doing fine on his own without getting typecast.

Date: 2005-04-06 07:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] marcusisabadass.livejournal.com
You should go to NotComing.com, Rumsey's website. He has a feature recently on the James Bond movies, featuring a few reviews by, *cough cough*, this kid you know from college *cough cough*

Date: 2005-04-06 07:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meredith-mae.livejournal.com
Seriously, if Timothy Dalton had stuck around longer, he probably wouldn't be remembered as the worst Bond. The Living Daylights is actually a pretty decent movie, but License to Kill is just awful. Probably my least favorite Bond film ever. So, he only did two movies, they were in the mid-late 80s, so the cheesiness quotient was at its zenith, and he ended on such a down note. Then Bond went on hiatus for 6 years and returned with Goldeneye, which was really good, and everyone thought, "WTF did we see in that last guy?" So, moral of the story, is that he shouldn't leave, even if everyone hates him at first. That would be the worst thing he could do.

But I *do* hope he gets some prosthetics, hair dye, and a razor.

Date: 2005-04-06 07:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cleolinda.livejournal.com
This is a good point.

Date: 2005-04-06 07:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cpip.livejournal.com
I thought the twit -- Lazenby? -- the one who did In Her Majesty's Secret Service was generally regarded as the worst of the lot, no?

Date: 2005-04-06 08:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kosher-jenny.livejournal.com
I don't think Lazenby was the worst Bond, he just was mediocre and had poor timing in coming to the franchise right after Connery left, which would be hard for anyone.

But yeah, he has a bad rap, but I think he's better than Dalton -_-.

Date: 2005-04-06 09:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meredith-mae.livejournal.com
No. Bond fans are pretty split on OHMSS. To some, it's the best of the series, and some don't really like it at all. Especially die-hard Connery fans, like my mom. I'm under the impression that if you like Bond, you're pretty partial to whoever is in the role as you're growing up and discovering the Bond series, which is why I like Brosnan a lot, although it's time for him to retire. No one really "grew up" on either Lazenby or Dalton, since they weren't around long. But overall, OHMSS is a better film than Dalton's work, hans down. Of course, it may have been better with Sean Connery, but you never know.

Date: 2005-04-06 09:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] skyblade.livejournal.com
Yeah, which is saying something, since unlike with Dalton's luck, OHMSS is really a very good Bond movie-it takes the character and settings in a new direction. It gives depth to the mythos, lends Bond some actual character development.

Craig would be an interesting Bond...he has that glint of menace to him that 007 would actually need (remember, Jimmy has a body count that would send most men to the chair several times over, and these deaths did not tend to be either necessary or merciful.) I'm just surprised the Broccolis would even consider going that route.

Date: 2005-04-06 09:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] skyblade.livejournal.com
It should also be noted Lazenby was primarily a model before landing the Bond role.

Date: 2005-04-06 08:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] marcusisabadass.livejournal.com
I agree about Dalton. As for License to Kill, well, I'll let this speak for me:
http://www.notcoming.com/reviews.php?id=416

Date: 2005-04-06 09:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sprunkle.livejournal.com
I actually quite liked Dalton. He came off as a more desperate, edgier Bond, which is something I thought such a character would become over time. But, as you said, he was stuck with some of the worst material.

Date: 2005-04-06 10:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ter369.livejournal.com
I liked Dalton in the role, too; particularly in his first Bond film. Of all the actors to take on the part, Dalton was most like the Bond in the books.

Date: 2005-04-06 07:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lauconfidential.livejournal.com
i remember when they swore -- for about 4 hours -- that dougray scott was supposed to be bond. ugh, i dont know which would be worse.

and i really hope clive owen gets the part. that would just be awesome -- he seems like hed make a great bond.

although i have to say ive always secretly been pushing for jeremy northam, who i believe IS cary grant (they do look scarily alike, admit it), and they did model bond after grant so...

Date: 2005-04-06 07:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crumpeteer.livejournal.com
*throws hands in air*

That's it. I give up. They can get whomever they like, but I don't want to hear about it any more. End the madness.

Date: 2005-04-06 08:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_skye_/
Ewan McGregor...yum!

Date: 2005-04-06 08:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/lorien__/
maybe they got it all mixed up and he's supposed to play the bond-bad-guy and not bond himself ;)

L.

Date: 2005-04-06 08:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yetra.livejournal.com
Well, having seen a LOT of movies with Daniel Craig, I can testify that the man *is* sex. He's got this amazing masculine presence, an amazing body, piercing eyes, etc... The first few moments he is on screen, he doesn't look like much, especially in movies where they make him a bit shaggy or bearded, but after a few minutes, once you see him move and speak and even more, just look with that face, those eyes, and, wooooosh. It's unexpectedly hot.

Although, honestly, I've felt Clive Owen was the best person for the job for years now. I'd prefer it if he didn't, I'd rather see him in smaller, more interesting films (never really been into bond) but he would kick ass. Daniel Craig would just kick ass in a different way, but would be fine.

I also think Clive would have been a MUCH better Constantine.

Date: 2005-04-06 09:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meredith-mae.livejournal.com
I'm not sure if anything could have saved Constantine, even Clive.

Date: 2005-04-06 09:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kosher-jenny.livejournal.com
I've given up. They can cast Robsen Green* for all I care at this point. Golden Eye was the last great Bond film anyway, and the franchise's biggest problems since that have been the scripting and directing (both were crap) which I don't see getting better anytime soon.

And is it just me, or do some people tend to jump on Pierce Brosnan and blame him a bit unfairly for the last few movies sucking? Maybe I'm biased, but I think he's one of the best Bonds (after Connery, that is), although he could probably stayed after he was too old to play the part.


*According to imdb, his middle name is Golightly, and I find that amusing.

Date: 2005-04-06 09:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fox-gloves.livejournal.com
Dude, this guy is ugly!

I expect James Bond to be all suave and super sexy!Scottish man who likes martinis a certain way. I don't want him looking like an ex-soccer hooligan who used to drink bitter and then chase people through the streets as they shouted "Arsenal 4-evah!" and he chasing after them and flying the traditional obscenities whilst declaring that Machester United is the best and then there's the fight in the streets

Date: 2005-04-06 09:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] saint-kat.livejournal.com
*rolls eyes on recent Bond news*

At this point, I would be screaming at the Powers That Be for the Bond franchise to just pick any actor in the world, hire a dialect coach, and make sure he knows how to order martinis and drive an Aston Martin. Cut and dry.

Besides, I really cannot imagine Daniel Craig in the Bond role. No way in hell.

Date: 2005-04-06 09:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] coconutzo.livejournal.com
Ya know what? I'v enever watche da full Bond movie either =/

Date: 2005-04-06 09:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] k-joy.livejournal.com
I've seen his performance in Layer Cake annd loved him! He's very good, and quite attractive. Maybe it was the perfect jeans and leather jacket that did it. Mah!

Anyways, I was surprised though cos he doesn't really strike me as Bond-ish. Thing is not even Clive Owen does. I mean Pierce Brosnan (and Sean Connery, of course) was perfect for the part, and I'm finding it hard to picture someone else. Although Hugh Jackman does have a certain appeal... ;)

Though what strikes me as odd is that they're considering non-British actors too. I always thought that James Bond HAD to be British

Date: 2005-04-06 10:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ter369.livejournal.com
Let's put it this way: Daniel Craig would appeal to the Bond fan base who is ... sorry, no other way to put it ... older than you and many younger Netizens who've just discovered Clive Owen. My friends in their thirties and forties recognize Mr. Craig - and often dash out to see the films he's in as soon as they open, because the movies are not so good and will vanish from first run, fast.

I still resent Mr. Brosnan for sulking his way through the finale arc of Remington Steele because he'd been considered for Bond but was tied to his TV series contract. Since that was almost twenty years ago, you can see what I mean by a different fan base for the Bond films.

Date: 2005-04-06 11:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lee-in-limbo.livejournal.com
Actually, speculation about the next Bond star has been running rampant almost since the day Die Another Day opened. I'm actually to the point where I pretty much don't care who, so long as EON/MGM/Sony finally end the silence and say what they're thinking. The rumours are still out there that EON is holding our to get Brosnan back, despite negotiation breakdown and months of public statements on Pierce's part. This would be the best thing they could do, as Brosnan really has brought a lot to the role, and has one or two more strong Bond entries in him before he needs to gracefully decline.

Finally, I'm in the Clive Owen camp. It's the right thing to do. However, no actor is going to be able to fly in and replace Brosnan without a lurch, because few are in that spot where they are known enough for the role but not bigger than Bond already. Almost no action oriented actors have quite the same crisp good looks that Brosnan does, and the few who do are too big for Bond. I think Clive is about primed. If they don't jump soon, he'll be too big for the part, and they'll have to settle for less.

Daniel Craig might not be a bad choice, really. But I truly never imagined them going for a blond (hair colour aside), let alone one who has been relegated to secondary roles in all of the big films he's co-starred in. Potential, perhaps, although he's even less pretty than Owen, if Brosnan is the standard we're measuring against.

Hard call, really. If you had your choice of aBond you'd actually go see, who would you wish to see, dear?

http://www.commanderbond.net/Public/Stories/2725-1.shtml

L o L,
tired

Date: 2005-04-07 01:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] foresthouse.livejournal.com
I did like him in Lara Croft. If he was to do it, maybe they'd be hoping to sell him through the trailers and stuff (show what he can do, or whatever).

But now...CLIVE! CLIVE! (is it me, or does his name make other people think of chives...and then I crave potato chips...ok I'm crazy).

Date: 2005-04-07 03:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] notemily.livejournal.com
I made up this joke where I was like "okay, so who's the best actor to put on your baked potato? answer: CHIVE OWEN!" but nobody thought it was funny.

Date: 2005-04-07 03:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] danibennett.livejournal.com
I...just burst out laughing far too loudly upon reading this. Hee.

Date: 2005-04-07 03:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] foresthouse.livejournal.com
Maybe it's just the late night, but I literally almost choked on my yogurt over that. Hee!

I guess you have to be an LJ freak to find it funny? Heh.

Date: 2005-04-07 08:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] terriem.livejournal.com
My question is, why did they pick someone that people are going to initially look at, as most of us just did, and go, "Who? WHAT? WHY??" Why did they pick someone that it would be an uphill job to sell?

But it's James Bond! They don't have to sell it - it kind of sells itself, particularly in the UK, where Daniel Craig is very well known. (Probably more so than Clive Owen, actually, as he's done more acclaimed TV work and dated Kate Moss.) Sean Connery wasn't well known when he did it and Pierce Brosnan was probably known to most people as "that guy from Mrs Doubtfire".

Date: 2005-04-07 01:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] litle-green-bag.livejournal.com
as a massive james bond fan, i really think daniel craig could do a good job! he's not you're typically "james bond" lookin guy, but tht might not be a bad thing, he'l bring something new, where as most of the bond guys have just been connery replacements, no1 can really replace connery, so why not try something different. besides tht personally find daniel craig very sexy and charming!

(this from some1 who's been hoping clive owen would be bond for the last 4 yrs!)

Date: 2005-04-07 05:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] adjectivegirl.livejournal.com
This sentence is what signals my burnout, personally.

Other names mentioned to play the 007 role have included Eric Bana, Jude Law, Heath Ledger, Ewan McGregor, Dougray Scott and Australian Hugh Jackman.


And Colin Farrell. And Orlando Bloom. That is, no joke, ever A List U.K./Down Under actor in the book.

I love Clive and I was always rooting for him in the role, but now it's become more of a push me pull you sensation where I think about the other movies he could be doing. He's pretty damn high profile anyway--would this be the first Bond who came to the franchise with an Oscar for instance?

Call me nuts, but the prequel with Orlando Bloom is just right because it can be crappy, and probably will be, and the debate can proceed where it should-behind closed doors. (Also, HELLO JOHNNY LEE MILLER. Am I yelling in a vacuum? Yes I am.)
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