cleolinda: (galadriel)
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Hey... I've gotten about half a dozen anon comments from the same IP in about half an hour, and I can't read them--I don't even know what the language is, because I don't have whatever characters they're in enabled, and all I can see are boxes. Could someone take a look at them and tell me what's going on? Because I'm going to have to start screening anonymous comments and/or ban this person if it doesn't stop, but they may actually be, uh, really nice? And I just can't tell...? Right. And I really don't want to screen anons by default, because I have some non-LJ regulars I really like having around. Anyway, I suspect it's an Asian language, because I know that I don't have Japanese or Chinese characters installed on this computer. Can anyone help?

http://www.livejournal.com/users/cleolinda/234490.html

P.S. PLEASE DO NOT REPLY TO ANY OF THESE COMMENTS. I just want to understand what's being said, not get into a flame war with anyone. They will be deleted, so don't bother.

ETA: We seem to have a consensus that it's Japanese. Random Japanese. (And yes, I can see the two English comments and the "Ugly American" bit.) And when I say I can't see the characters, I mean that I literally see those empty box symbols. So... yeah.

Date: 2005-01-30 03:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sinkalicious.livejournal.com
I see Chinese (or Japanese? I feel so ignorant) characters, with the words (in English) "Ugly American" in one of them. I do not, however, have a clue what they say.

Before the comments in Chinese/Japanese, I see two comments in English. Can you see those?

Date: 2005-01-30 04:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cleolinda.livejournal.com
Yeah, I saw "Ugly American" and the whole McDonalds thing, which was... weird.

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Date: 2005-01-30 03:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] emilytarot.livejournal.com
It's Japanese....

But it's totally all over the map, from my fading Japanese... like,t he last one is how bad it is if you party too much? (?) It's like someone's cutting and pasting conversational japanese crap and posting it.

Date: 2005-01-30 03:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] emilytarot.livejournal.com
>reads more carefully< Yeaahhh... it's totally random Japanese, apropos o' nothin'.

Date: 2005-01-30 03:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anne-jumps.livejournal.com
I have the characters; it looks like Japanese to me, but what do I know?

Date: 2005-01-30 03:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xuntamedx.livejournal.com
Yeah, it's an Asian language.. unfourtunately I can't read it, so there's me being not-helpful.

The one at 11:24 PM said "Ugly American" in English, though. :(!

Try this...

Date: 2005-01-30 03:50 pm (UTC)
ext_205397: (Bawling penguin)
From: [identity profile] clauw.livejournal.com
http://babelfish.altavista.com/tr
Try this, you'll get the gist of the comments that way if you chose the language of the website you want translated to be Japanese to English.
Seems like the poster is trying stir some shit...

Date: 2005-01-30 03:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anjenue.livejournal.com
Well, the first two say:

You suits McDonalds'.

and

You reminds me cheap post war American Capitalism,
which is supposed to be capital intensive, like big consulting firms, but the reality is that it is the mass production of mass pruducts for "commoners".
I mean, business consultants are factory workers, who is programmed and ordered to take a certain role of mass production, in a efficient way.


and the fourth one has an 'ugly American' thrown in there. If that helps. I can see the charas but don't understand them, so.

Date: 2005-01-30 03:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] heather88.livejournal.com
I translated it, and it's nonsense. Sentences are out of order or not completed and words are switched all over.

Date: 2005-01-30 04:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jaseroque.livejournal.com
Oh thank goodness, I was beginning to wonder if it was only me. I'm not so good with kanji, but even I could tell that it just didn't seem to have the right setup for a proper sentence. *feels like she has brain smarts again*

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Date: 2005-01-30 04:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] labluething.livejournal.com
What's weird is ursulav's journal had this going on like a few months ago, with the random Japanese comments. Same nonsense stuff, nothing to do with anything. I dunno if they're the same bored people or if LJ's glitching or what.

Date: 2005-01-30 04:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rhyana.livejournal.com
It looks like the same crap that one of my friends gets once in a while. Here's his entry (http://www.livejournal.com/users/ozy_y2k/115380.html) where he explains what is going on.

Except Rui is usually not very hostile. *shrugs* Perhaps someone thought it would be funny to copy him/her/it.

Date: 2005-01-30 04:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cleolinda.livejournal.com
Yeah... reading that, it's sounding familiar.

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Date: 2005-01-30 04:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kaytethinks.livejournal.com
I plugged them into babelfish for a laugh:

#1: ばっかじゃない?

= Whether the っ it is not?

#2: 見るからにそういうタイプよね~
うさんくさいやつ。
「ああ、勘違い男」ってコピーがいいかもね。
アメリカ英語にすると、Ugly Americanがいいかも。

= Because you see, such type don't you think?? Suspicious person. Whether "well, the misunderstanding man" っ て copy is good, don't you think?. When it makes the American English, whether Ugly American is good.

#3: もうほんと、怒りが爆発状態。
いい加減にしろ、ばかやろう!って、
人前で水でもかけてやりたい。
どうぞ、訴えたければ、訴えてください。


= Already the ほ is with, anger explosive state. To some extent margin, the fool you probably will do! The っ て, with public we would like applying even with the water. Please, we probably would like to appeal, please appeal.

#4: パーティーとか、みんながいる前で、ばし~って、殴ってやりたい。
でもやりすぎて、警察がきちゃったら、大変~
国際指名手配になっちゃう。


= The party, before everyone is, it does? The っ て, we would like beating. So doing too much, the police comes, the ちゃ っ cod, serious? In international designation arrangement っ ちゃ う.



... So... yeah. :D

Date: 2005-01-30 04:59 pm (UTC)

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Date: 2005-01-30 04:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] potatofishy.livejournal.com
It's Japanese, and how awesome is BabelFish (http://world.altavista.com/)? Anyway, this is what I got:

First Comment:

Whether the っ it is not?

Second:

Because you see, such type don't you think??
Suspicious person.
Whether "well, the misunderstanding man" っ て copy is good, don't you think?.
When it makes the American English, whether Ugly American is good.


Third:

Already the ほ is with, anger explosive state.
To some extent margin, the fool you probably will do! っ て,
With public we would like applying even with the water.
Please, we probably would like to appeal, please appeal.


Fourth:

The party, before everyone is, it does? The っ て, we would like beating.
So doing too much, the police comes, the ちゃ っ cod, serious?
In international designation arrangement っ ちゃ う.


So maybe not so nice... But definitely a little bit psycho.

Date: 2005-01-30 04:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] potatofishy.livejournal.com
...and [livejournal.com profile] kaytethinks renders me useless.

Yay.

Date: 2005-01-30 04:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shoiryu.livejournal.com
Random Japanese gibberish. Like someone else suggested, probably stuff that's been copy/pasted from other places.

Date: 2005-01-30 04:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cleolinda.livejournal.com
Do you know how to ban an IP? I don't know if private journal users can do that or not, as opposed to community mods...

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Date: 2005-01-30 04:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] maramala.livejournal.com
Gee, I never thought my meager Japanese comprehension skills could come in handy here. :)

This does not sound random, there's two ways to infer from this exchange.

1) For the attention-starved, this is a conversation between several of your Japanese readers, using your blog as a forum of sorts. Congratulations, Cleo. You've made it in Japan. And when they say if you can make it there...

From the first two anonymous messages in English, this would be the obvious reason, however, if you read between the lines and go deeper...

2) For the conspiracy-minded, this is a more ominous notice. This is an exchange between people to meet somewhere overseas to plan for something, and choosing your blog as their forum was a random coincidence. The intention could be anything, whatever it is, but the "Ugly American" sticks out like a sore thumb, and doesn't sound encouraging, especially with references to a party.

Maybe I'm overreacting, but you have the IPs tracked, right? Report them to the mods. Not that it'll do any real good, but you never know...

Then again, there is:

3) Where I could be wrong, and this could all be some ploy from a bored hikikomori trying to get a rise out of us. This is doubtful, but the exchange does sound like something out of a Japanese novel...

Date: 2005-01-30 04:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cleolinda.livejournal.com
See, here's the thing: It's all from the same IP number string. It's all one person. One bored crazy, crazy person...

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Date: 2005-01-30 04:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] priceyeah.livejournal.com
FYI, your ETA point about what you literally see is lost on those with the Japanese fonts installed. I see them properly there the same way I see them in the posts you directed us to look at. No difference.

Date: 2005-01-30 04:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cleolinda.livejournal.com
Ahhh. Well, that explains a lot...

Date: 2005-01-30 05:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_stormthesea/
The only thing I really remember from Japanese class is one and how to say acorn. Donguri?

You'd think I'd remember alot more, after about 8 1/2 years. But no.

Date: 2005-01-30 05:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jaseroque.livejournal.com
I learned that from My Neighbour Totoro. ^__^ Ah, Miyazaki, King of animators and random Japanese word teacher.

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Date: 2005-01-30 05:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stardreemer.livejournal.com
That's just plain creepy.....

Date: 2005-01-30 06:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] foresthouse.livejournal.com
It is complete randomness - delete/block/whatever you need to.

I had the same thing happen on one of my entries that I think I linked you to when you got the first one in English (like I had) and my friend who is a Japanese language major could barely translate them and we concluded they are spam.

Mine came out in the little boxes too. The translations were vaguely hilarious in that, WTFdoesthismean? way.

Date: 2005-01-30 06:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] foresthouse.livejournal.com
Ahha. Here was where I had it:

http://www.livejournal.com/users/foresthouse/149294.html

Is it the same IP address as your random comments?

I bet it is...

Date: 2005-01-30 06:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cleolinda.livejournal.com
You can only see IPs logged on your own journal--does it start with a 198?

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Date: 2005-01-30 07:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cellardoor28.livejournal.com
i had this exact same thing about a week ago, but i deleted the comments and disabled the anonymous posting so i cant tell you if it was the same. sounds suspiciously similar though.

Date: 2005-01-30 10:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] la-sonnambula.livejournal.com
Both edda and I had been hit by that pseudo-Japanese using troll.

Date: 2005-01-31 01:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] edda.livejournal.com
Yep! Maybe there's some annoying stalker-type who's got a ring of us going, although the bits I ould interpret sounded like people making plans for New Year's. Maybe spies using my LJ for covert activity! *has delusions*

I moved it to friends-only commenting and reported the spammage to LJ. That seemed to do the trick.

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Date: 2005-01-31 10:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zerkalovich.livejournal.com
I think I probably know who was that. Did you remove comments yet? Can you post it for example?

Date: 2005-01-31 04:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cleolinda.livejournal.com
Here's a couple:


From: (Anonymous) Date: January 30th, 2005 - 11:19 pm (Link)
(IP Address: 198.81.3.139)
Select:

ばっかじゃない?
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From: (Anonymous) Date: January 30th, 2005 - 11:24 pm (Link)
(IP Address: 198.81.3.139)
Select:

見るからにそういうタイプよね~
うさんくさいやつ。
「ああ、勘違い男」ってコピーがいいかもね。
アメリカ英語にすると、Ugly Americanがいいかも。

Date: 2005-01-31 11:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] trailer-spot.livejournal.com
I think you are the victim of blog spamming. I read an article about it recently, but unfortunately I wasn't able to find it again.
But on the homepage of sixapart (=the mothership) there are two articles. A short one (http://www.sixapart.com/log/2005/01/support_for_nof.shtml) with lots of further TrackBacks and an extensive Guide to comment spam (http://www.sixapart.com/pronet/comment_spam.html).
I didn't read them, but maybe they will help you to understand what's going on.

Random chinese characters

Date: 2005-01-31 04:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peot.livejournal.com
Perhaps someone just fell asleep infron of his or hers keyboard. Last time I did that for ten minutes while writing something (an ICS paper), I continued writing! Woke up 0 minutes later and read a really wild sentence about flaming arrows and burning buildings and stuff.

Re: Random chinese characters

Date: 2005-01-31 11:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] maramala.livejournal.com
Hey, I do that sometimes too. :)

Are you still ranting?

Date: 2005-01-31 04:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kira002.livejournal.com
If you're still taking rant submissions, I'd love to see what you do with this: http://okproject.aerandir.com/

But you gotta hurry because due to *gaspshock* events in the past few days, it's being taken down tomorrow.

Re: Are you still ranting?

Date: 2005-01-31 04:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cleolinda.livejournal.com
I saved the page for future usage. : )

Re: Are you still ranting?

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