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Whee! I got tons of work done on LOTR today, and then I had Vladimir give me feedback on everything I'd written (which was no easy job for, considering that I was feeding him paragraphs upon paragraphs through IM, because it never occurred to me to, y'know, email him a document or anything). Then The Lovely Emily and I went to see the Lemony Snicket movie, which is, quite frankly, the first movie I've seen in a theater since King Arthur all of five months ago, which is just sad. I was pleasantly surprised by the movie--I'd read pretty finicky reviews, and I was expecting total overacting from Jim Carrey, but mostly... he kept the "inappropriate" overacting confined to the early Count Olaf segments, where it kind of made sense for Olaf as a narcissistic actor. When he was doing the whole Stefano/Captain Sham thing, he stayed in character pretty well, so I'm willing to give him a pass. When he is on the ball as Olaf, he's fantastic, and totally wigged me out in the whole dressing room scene near the end when he has all the theater makeup drawn on. The kids are all fabulous, and I'm sort of in love with Liam Aiken now. The movie covers the first three books, but the end of the first has been moved to the end of the entire movie, and there's a bit with the kids stranded in a locked car on train tracks instead that was actually really good. Also: the house on Lachrymose Lake collapsing is way scarier than anything in a kid's movie has any right to be, and I actually started crying during the last scene of the movie. On the other hand, I didn't really like the movie's Mr. Poe--I had always imagined him as being meeker and more of a pushover than just blustery and ignorant--and I wanted the Person of Indeterminate Gender to cut more of a Strong Sad-like figure than just look like Craig Ferguson in half a wedding dress. But, you know, all right. The best gag in the movie is one you might not even notice: a cameo by a famous actor who costarred with Meryl Streep (Aunt Josephine) in a movie about... a child custody battle. Awesome.

A major factor I can't really decide whether I like or not: the movie leaves the story open for sequels, but doesn't seem to assume there will automatically be any. You know--what if this movie flops? So, without actually mentioning the VFD, it sort of solves the mystery of how the Baudelaires' house burned down and how all the guardians are connected... in a way that doesn't really solve the books' mysteries or contradict what we know per se, but... I don't know. It does tell you more than the first three books tell you, however, which I wasn't expecting. All that aside, I felt like the movie did right by the books otherwise, and the costumes and sets--and the credits! Stay for the credits!--are fantastic.

Meanwhile, my parents had the woman who's handing over the reins of the Executive Whatever position to George over for dinner, and she was gone by the time I came back, so I loaded up a plate from the massive amounts of fruit and cheese Mom had left over from the appetizer tray, and I'm camped out in front of the computer again. I swore that I'd get LOTR done this weekend or die trying move on to other movies tomorrow, but... I'm in such a good groove now that I kind of don't want to. Oh well.

The LOTR "Fifteen Minutes" is, as previously mentioned, going really well. It's really loopy, actually--it's ended up with all these weird references (William Carlos Williams, Dylan Thomas, Garrison Keillor, Dr. Seuss, The Matrix, Gladiator, Alanis Morissette, detergent commercials) that kind of span the gamut from low to high culture, and... I guess I could sit around worrying whether everyone will get all the jokes, but really, after I'm done writing sixty pages (!) of script-format parody, there ought to be something for everyone. I figure, not everyone will get every joke, but every joke will be gotten by someone. (Maybe? I hope...?)

Date: 2004-12-19 09:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] all-ephemera.livejournal.com
Woot! I cannot wait to read your Lord of the Rings in 15 Minutes!!!

Date: 2004-12-19 09:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] all-ephemera.livejournal.com
And ooooh! First note! I knew there was something good to come of staying up late and dying my hair. ;)

Date: 2004-12-19 09:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] noblerot.livejournal.com
it's ended up with all these weird references (William Carlos Williams, Dylan Thomas, Garrison Keillor, Dr. Seuss, The Matrix, Gladiator, Alanis Morissette, detergent commercials) that kind of span the gamut from low to high culture

I cannot wait to read this. And thanks for the Snicket observations -- I'd been dreading seeing Jim Carrey chewing up the series' lovely Gothic scenery, but it sounds like he doesn't do too much damage.

Date: 2004-12-19 09:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sigma7.livejournal.com
You know, there need to be more Strong Sad characters in movies. Or, for that matter, a Homestar Runner movie. I'd so camp out for that. And get the soundtrack.

I figure, not everyone will get every joke, but every joke will be gotten by someone. (Maybe? I hope...?)

That was something I highly valued about the earlier MST3Ks -- sometimes I just laughed 'cause I knew it was funny, even though I didn't get it, and years down the road I'd find that puzzle-piece trivia bit that fit and completed the picture for me, and it was like a little bit of delayed joy from the episode. Running the gamut is a good sign, methinks. (Like I'm not buying a copy?)

And good for you, getting so much done. You'll feel sooooo much better when it's all behind you and OMG IM A WRITUR LOL!!1!twelve!

Date: 2004-12-19 10:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] edda.livejournal.com
That was something I highly valued about the earlier MST3Ks -- sometimes I just laughed 'cause I knew it was funny, even though I didn't get it, and years down the road I'd find that puzzle-piece trivia bit that fit and completed the picture for me, and it was like a little bit of delayed joy from the episode. Running the gamut is a good sign, methinks. (Like I'm not buying a copy?)

Exactly.

Date: 2004-12-19 10:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lady-tavington.livejournal.com
All I know is, your m15m's are Teh Bombz, I cannot wait to see/read it! I bet you're doing a great job, there's hardly any doubt of that at all!

Namarïe,
~Sáthien

Date: 2004-12-19 10:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] illmantrim.livejournal.com
Cant wait to buy and read yer book!!!

Date: 2004-12-19 10:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] waxpapervillain.livejournal.com
Hey! I know Garrison Keillor!

Date: 2004-12-19 10:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] edda.livejournal.com
What's he like? I'd like to hear that he's a really nice, funny, caring human being because I love Prairie Home Companion but a dim corner of me fears he's really probably a pompous twit.

Date: 2004-12-20 06:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yarha.livejournal.com
Ugh. Garrison Keillor. On the positive side, I liked his latest novel, Love Me. Alas, PHC has lost something...something. Not sure what.

Yarha, Where the Women are Strong and the Children are Above Average

Date: 2004-12-20 08:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] waxpapervillain.livejournal.com
He's a nice and an upstanding caring human being.

Fear no longer.

Date: 2004-12-19 10:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lezopez.livejournal.com
Woot Progress!!!!
I cannot wait to read your book....
*drools in anticipation of the Legolas pretty and Frodo falling jokes*

Date: 2004-12-19 10:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ambiguousreason.livejournal.com
"[...] and I'm sort of in love with Liam Aiken now."

Oh my GOD, so is my 13-year-old sister. You just have no idea -- she is being insufferable. *kills her* But I'm excited that you liked the move -- we're going next weekend and I've been sort of apprehensive until now.

Sixty pages? I cannot wait to read this book, seriously.

Date: 2004-12-19 10:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cleolinda.livejournal.com
It sounds like a lot, but when you C&P "Troy" or "King Arthur" into Word, each one's about 20 pages. It's a ballpark estimate, but I figure that LOTR will therefore be 20 x 3.

Date: 2004-12-19 10:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ambiguousreason.livejournal.com
Okay, that's true.

Shh. Don't interrupt my bliss. XD

Date: 2004-12-19 10:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] particle-person.livejournal.com
I figure, not everyone will get every joke, but every joke will be gotten by someone.

That's just the way to do it— I love re-reading books to catch the jokes I missed on the first pass. Same thing with great movies. Every time I watch Dr. Strangelove I see something new.
---
You are so, so (so!) right about the credits on Lemony Snicket. They're like the best Flash animation ever created crossed with line art by Charles Addams or Edward Gorey. The movie ought to win some kind of award just for the credits.

Date: 2004-12-19 11:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] foresthouse.livejournal.com
One of my favorite things about a favorite author of mine (Terry Pratchett) is that I can go back and re-read the book - and find funny things I missed the first time!

So I wouldn't worry too much about putting in those obscure references. It usually makes it more fun :)

Date: 2004-12-19 11:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] starr234.livejournal.com
I was pleasantly surprised by Jim Carrey as well and overall was less disatisfied with the story treatment than I was afraid I would be. What did you think of how they dealt with Sunny communicating? One of my favorite things about the books is picking up on references in the Sunny-speak that aren't always explained and I felt like the subtitles kind of lost that layered effect and just went for the target audience joke.

Yay for LOTR going well, and yay for Alanis Morissette references! She cracks me up for all the wrong reasons.

Date: 2004-12-20 03:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cleolinda.livejournal.com
I think they could have preserved that--you know, how Sunny would answer with some tangentially related word that had a whole different subtext--except that they were working with really, really young child(ren). It might have been hard to get the Hoffman twins to say specific things. I think the most complex-but-distinct sounds they got them to make were "Ono!" and "Ajo!" ("Aunt Jo!"). Like, I kinda remember one gag in the books where Sunny responded with the name of a philosopher (Nietzsche?), and I'm not sure they could have gotten the twins to say something like that clearly enough for even the adults in the audience to get the joke. I miss that kind of thing, but I understand why it didn't make it into the movie.

Date: 2004-12-19 11:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] queenofattolia.livejournal.com
Jim Carrey = feh. He gives me a headache no matter what he does. And I'm still big with the Liam Aiken hate when I realize how close he came to being Chris Columbus' ideal Harry Potter (er, wtf? American?). Fortunately, Rowling's reaction to this was the rough equivalent of mine: "What are you, Columbus, totally high? The character is British, you moron."

Still, I'm taking my nephew to see it tomorrow, unless he decides he wants to see "Polar Express" (yet another bastardization of a great children's book). Feh, and feh again.

Date: 2004-12-20 12:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ararejul.livejournal.com
*mwhaa

i'm in your fan section cheering you on for this deadline. and if you're worried about some people not getting anything? then they're stupid fatheads that don't deserve your kickass m15m anyways ;)

Date: 2004-12-20 01:34 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] fba.livejournal.com
LotR in 45 minutes (I'm assuming it is one per film) is probably the only way I will do the 'all-in-one-go' experience again. Twelve hours of almost non-stop LotR at the weekend was a little bit draining.....

Date: 2004-12-20 01:51 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] kyuuketsukirui.livejournal.com
Liam Aiken, omg. I first noticed him in Road to Perdition. He plays the younger brother and is omgsocute. I'm happy to see he hasn't lost any cuteness as he got older (far from it!). And from the pictures I've seen, he really makes a perfect Klaus.

Just think of it as a pre-written sequel...

Date: 2004-12-20 05:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thunderhowl.livejournal.com
...in which you can explain all the jokes for those of us who aren't sharp enough to catch them all.
^_^

Date: 2004-12-20 05:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yarha.livejournal.com
It's great that you've found the writing groove! Or, Zen-like, there is no book, no writer, no jokes, only the writing. Something like that. What is the sound of one hand crapping? I dunno.

Going to the movie theater is overrated. The last film I saw was Alexander, which was..uh..ok. Not as horrible as advertised, but admittedly I had a pretty good buzz on through the first hour from a fantastic dinner+booze at a restaurant in the plaza.

How can people eat an entire tub of popcorn? I asked for large, but had to stagger through the door to the theater carrying this barrel of popcorn. Jeez. If the movie had gotten worse, I could've hidden in it, buried up to the eyebrows like a frightened alligator.

Yarha, Artificial-Butter-Covered Alligator of the Wild

Date: 2004-12-20 06:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pygmymetal.livejournal.com
Depending on what IM you're using, some of them have file transfer tools too. ;) Just so ya know next time.

/nerd mode off

*hug*

Happy Holidays and congrats on your progress. I'm looking forward to reading your book. BTW, when it comes out, can we send our copies to you for autographs? ;)

Date: 2004-12-20 06:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pygmymetal.livejournal.com
Oh and weren't you the one who said one of Donald's Apprenti had interviewed at your mum's work? Can you say now which one it was?

Date: 2004-12-20 09:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pygmymetal.livejournal.com
YIKES! Scary freaky wench! *hides*

Date: 2004-12-20 07:44 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] creatrix
Yay for a writing groove!

Re: jokes—I wouldn't worry. There have been so many LotR parodies that the jokes are more or less canon at this point. I mean, there are only so many "sparkly white" jokes one can make about Gandalf before they're all just repetitive, you know?

Date: 2004-12-20 09:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sprunkle.livejournal.com
I was pleasantly surprised with Lemony Snicket too. Usually I can't stand Jim Carrey and his face of rubber, but I'm still cracking up over his T-Rex impersonation. However, I thought that the girl, though very pretty, was a crap actress. It was like a bad grade 10 drama class flashback.

The best gag in the movie is one you might not even notice: a cameo by a famous actor who costarred with Meryl Streep (Aunt Josephine) in a movie about... a child custody battle. Awesome.
Yay for Dustin Hoffman! And he was funny, too!

What did you think of the lack of glasses on Klaus?

Oh, and good luck on your book!

Date: 2004-12-20 09:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] carebear080787.livejournal.com
About Jim Carrey, I thought he was really good in Eternal Sunshine of a Spotless Mind. I'm not a huge fan of his other stuff, but he was great in that.

Date: 2004-12-20 09:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vladimirsever.livejournal.com
Seriously, if I tell everyone that I basically spent a solid hour laughing my posterior off while Cleo kept feeding me sheer brilliance via IM, would I end up being universally hated?

*maybe not*

Tis true, though.

*so honored*

...And Cleo's apparently sending me a bundle of Snicket books for Christmas.

*otoh, let's DO hate Vladimir now*

Date: 2004-12-20 09:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pygmymetal.livejournal.com
*Tries to hate Vladimir

*fails miserably

:p

Date: 2004-12-20 01:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] all-ephemera.livejournal.com
I don't know about hatred - but pea-green envy that could choke me? Check. Got it. ;)

Date: 2004-12-20 02:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vladimirsever.livejournal.com
Awwww, shucks, you guys.

(Try harder!)

Date: 2004-12-20 09:35 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Don't stress. I write (for family only, you know, stuff that's funny to the family, i.e. 'uncle Maurice' inside jokes) and I find that the more that they ask me to write the harder it gets, the more I obsess, etc. etc. You're fine and have a really good sense of humor. My only message to you is don't stress, I think everybody enjoys your writing.

Date: 2004-12-20 09:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kalena-henden.livejournal.com
...then I had Vladimir give me feedback on everything I'd written (which was no easy job for, considering that I was feeding him paragraphs upon paragraphs through IM, because it never occurred to me to, y'know, email him a document or anything).

You can send entire files through IM (People > Send File to Buddy... or if you are already conversing you can go to the nav bar of your chat window -- File > Send File...). It's actually alot faster than email. Hope that helps speed up your feedback in the future. ;)

Date: 2004-12-20 10:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aurora-borialis.livejournal.com
I loved "Lemony Snicket's.." it was awesome. My best friend was whimpering like half the time from scaryness.. I thought it was good-scary like OMG THE VIPER! Yea I may or may not have jumped two feet in the air. I also never thought to give a baby subtitles. I was clenching my friend's arm very tightly through the collapse of the house over the water. I also was tearing up in the "play" scene. It's really funny to see Liam Aiken all grown up now from his Stepmom days.

Power to LOTR in 15 minutes!

Date: 2004-12-20 11:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] arayuldaiel.livejournal.com
I am madly in love with Liam Aiken. He is waay too cute. And the best part? He's actually my age. SQUEE. I was kind of concerned about Klaus' lack of glasses, but perhaps it'll work out in the end. Maybe they'll skip The Miserable Mill, which was mind-numbingly dull.

And hooray for LOTR progress! I can't wait to read it :D

Date: 2004-12-20 12:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mysticowl.livejournal.com
I saw Lemony Snickett a couple of days ago myself and really liked it. I thought it kept to the spirit of the books rather well even when it didn't keep to the letter. I don't know if the house falling down over the lake was that scary... My friend and I had her little sister alone and she didn't mention that scene, but agreed that the Incredibly Deadly Viper lunging out at the screen was a frightening (I bet it was, it frightened me and I'm a bit older than nine).

I think the best part was Sunny's subtitled text. That was so funny at times. Oh, and Klaus' "Are you sure you tied that ribbon tight enough?"

Date: 2004-12-20 12:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] catsiesmurfette.livejournal.com
Now I'm not so scared to see the Lemony Snicket movie. I was so afraid that the director would mutilate the story and completely disrupt it, so reading your review made me happy! :) Thanks a bunch.

Date: 2004-12-20 12:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pygmymetal.livejournal.com
Cleo Cleo Cleo Cleo!!! *bounces up and down*

Lookit, a LOST quiz! :p

This was mine! MINE! MINE!

LOL!!


YOU LOOK UPON A KATE

Image

Which LOST character are you?
(http://www.quizmo.co.uk/quiz.php?quiz=26031)

Sounds like you're on a roll

Date: 2004-12-20 02:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] brett-the-vet.livejournal.com
Woot! Go Cleo! Can't wait to read the book ;)

P.S. I wanna see Lemony Snicket (whiny voice)

Date: 2004-12-20 03:11 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Squeee! Alanis Morisette references!!

Date: 2004-12-20 03:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] herigstad.livejournal.com
woohoo!! Garrison Keillor!!!

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