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Hurrr. Just woke up from a nap. Seem to be taking afternoon naps a lot more now. I was so tired last night from finishing "King Arthur" that I couldn't even bring myself to fix dinner until after 10 pm.

The big thing about "King Arthur"--oh, and by the way, I added two more mini-batches of icons of icons to the folder. The last entry on [livejournal.com profile] m15m is about the icons, so hit that--is that I learned a lot about my "Movies in Fifteen Minutes" process. A lot. Namely, I have to gun the things out in the 5-6 hours immediately after I see the movie, or I start to forget what happened, and then it takes me days to poke at the keyboard and go, "Whaaaa... I can't... zzzz." "Van Helsing"? Five hours. "Troy"? Six hours. "Harry Potter"? Four days of bitching and moaning and premature senility. I'm sayin'.

Which is why I should stop going to see movies on Sundays, because I have "Six Feet Under" to watch that night and that's just no good. But it's an extremely helpful discovery in terms of writing the book. Particularly since they want manuscript on October 1st, DAMN.

(On the upside, Orion has a v. pretty new website. We're still in the contract phase [i.e., "Get off your ass and put the signed contracts in the mail, Miss Jones, plzkthnx"], so I'm not on it or anything. I'm just saying.)

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You know, I think I have developed a theory. The "King Arthur" threads at [livejournal.com profile] m15m have so far been nothing but love and light, and--I know, I know, give it a week--but really, so were the "Troy" threads. "Van Helsing" a little less so--I got some "Why are you making fuuuun of the poor mooovie?" comments--and "Harry Potter" was downright psychotic. What do Troy and King Arthur have in common? Casts brimful of hot, fully-grown men. Van Helsing had a smaller cast, but it, too, was pretty dedicated to hotness (if hotness in silly costumes and bad accents). But seriously? I truly believe that the Troy and King Arthur fandoms have largely been overwhelmed with too many warm hormonal fuzzies to bicker. Keep in mind that I'm not even talking about comments that were directed at me--most of the bickering was between various commenters in my HP review at [livejournal.com profile] dailydigest. I see it all the time on Fandom Wank--Lord of the Rings has a few serious, hardcore Wanks to Rule Them All (Jordan Wood hit the papers yesterday, y'all!), but Harry Potter's the fandom where a new snit seems to break out on the hour. Lord of the Rings? Has a few uber-psychotic fans and... a cast full of hot guys. King Arthur? Has so many hot guys that people can't even muster the strength to discuss whether Clive Owen or Ioan Gruffudd is hotter. HOT GUYS FOR WORLD PEACE!

Or you could also argue that the reason HP fans are so tetchy is because 1) their fandom generally includes way younger fans who are more easily riled and 2) the series isn't finished, and so there's lots of shipper angst about who's going to end up with whom. Shut up, I like my theory better.

Of course, the acid test would be for me to put up "Return of the King in Fifteen Minutes" and see what kind of hell breaks out, I suppose. But I'll have to see what's going in the book before I can tell you what I can post online.

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Now that I have Photoshop and my icons suck less... I don't know if anyone even cares about Troy or Van Helsing anymore, but for those of you still using 15M icons... you deserve better.

Troy icons (some new, some just improved; 19 total, take whatever you want)





Van Helsing icons, all old but improved (17 total, take whatever you want)

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Date: 2004-07-15 06:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theatre-angel.livejournal.com
I'm sorry, my computer's being an asshat, and so I wasn't able to comment over at [livejournal.com profile] m15m, but I've taken the "HOW Y'ALL FEEL?!" icon, as you can see. :-D

And, I have an icon suggestion? ::raises hand timidly:: You might have done something to this extent, as my computer is being the previously mentioned asshat and the icon page didn't fully load, but a nice icon idea might be a picture of Arthur with the text: "A noble cause: MY FOOT UP YOUR ASS!". I know it isn't the exact text from your parody, but it was the one part that had me in stitches for AGES, as opposed to stitches for ten minutes.

Date: 2004-07-15 06:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cleolinda.livejournal.com
Heeee. If I can find a good picture to go with it, I'll make it. :)

Date: 2004-07-15 06:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jai-eu-froid.livejournal.com
haha

I like that DUH DUN DUH DUN icon a lot

Date: 2004-07-15 06:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lafemmezilla.livejournal.com
I don't normally care for aliased fonts, but I like that one because it's actually legible at small sizes. What's with the unreadable text trend? So, if I may ask, where did you get that font, and is it available for Mac?

Paris: *gets his legolas on* is a good one!! haha.

And since I'm watching ROTK right now, I was just thinking a m15m of that would be fab. I hope to read it someday, in one form or another.

Date: 2004-07-15 06:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cleolinda.livejournal.com
It's Silkscreen--you can get it almost anywhere, but 1001fonts.com comes to mind.

For some reason there's a huge controversy over unreadable text right now, at various communities/journals I've been past. I can understand it as a design element, but... really, you need to make sure it's really, really readable or really, really not; otherwise people can't tell what you're trying to do. (/gets down off soapbox)

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Date: 2004-07-15 06:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lissybrand.livejournal.com
I love the icons - they are so awesome!! Well done :D

Date: 2004-07-15 06:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] malenky-devil.livejournal.com
HOT GUYS FOR WORLD PEACE!

Here, here! I tell ya, the man-harem will come in handy when I come to rule the world.

HP fans tend to be very snippy, go to some mugglenet boards and you can see. LotR fans sometimes tend to make fun of themselves, myself included. The HP movies aren't low on hot guys (Alan Rickman, Rupert Grint, David Thewlis etc.), but are high on a young audience who easily take offense like crazy, even to stuff Rowling herself posts (OMG Draco leik is not teh ebal!). Give 'em time and they'll get used to it...with hope.

But yes, Hot Guys=peace. Until we begin fighting over them.

Dude, I saw Spider-Man 2 and was thinking "Dude, this is movie in fifteen minute fodder." Because it really is.

Date: 2004-07-15 07:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cleolinda.livejournal.com
I totally meant to go see SM2, and just didn't make it. Because I'm pitiful.

I think part of the problem with the Harry Potter/hot guys thing is... well, I think the boys will grow up to be hot, but the men are... well, they're the Discerning Woman's Hot. And even then they take the Discerning Woman's Hot and hide it under greasy fright wigs, Hitler porno 'staches, etc. Harry Potter--and I say this as a fan--needs some blazing, unadulterated hot before we will be able to achieve world peace.

Or they can just keep dressing great British character actors badly and we can keep on bickering. It's all the same to me. ;)

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Date: 2004-07-15 06:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] silverhill.livejournal.com
The "King Arthur" threads at m15m have so far been nothing but love and light,

So my question is: Do you like it all love and light? Or do you wish for a bit of wankiness?

Personally, I think it's that as your Movies in 15 Minutes have caught on, people have caught on to the fact that they're supposed to be funny, that you do this to multiple movies. Not just OMGthismovieissooobadImustmockit!!1!

Date: 2004-07-15 07:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cleolinda.livejournal.com
Well, I like it to be love and light in that I got sick of people on the HP threads bitching AT EACH OTHER. That, and HP was the only movie I got outright insults/death threats on.

With just about anything else I write--like original fiction--I really like constructive criticism. With these, though... it really just feels like backseat driving ("You know what you shoulda said? You shoulda said THIS!"). Of course I'll be revising for the book, and I'll have specific people read parodies with the intent of having them give criticism, but... I don't know. The ones I post online seem like something that ought to be fun, and if you think it's too long or "one-note," well... what am I supposed to do about it?

Date: 2004-07-15 06:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kohler.livejournal.com
It's official. I love you.

And I'm taking Paris/Legolas and Pearl Cum for GJ if you dont mind :)

Date: 2004-07-15 06:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ex-krazycat651.livejournal.com
dude I don't even dare to read the new m15m before I see the film as I will see the film differently and it's not out here yet.

Considering I think 'horseybird' whenever I see the hippogriff now I'd say you're an influence on my mind.
(that just being an example. damn Cleo, corrupt my mind!)


you rock :)

Date: 2004-07-15 06:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jai-eu-froid.livejournal.com
ok, well it seems like you want some different commentary...

I linked to this m15m on www.gamefaqs.com and most of the people found it amusing but one of the guys said this

"There's really no excuse for it to be that long or long-winded, especially considering how one-note it is with the humor.

She should take lessons from this guy:

http://www.scottj.net/condensed/dracula.asp"

I don't knwo you were just talking about hearing how everyone thought it was the best ever so I thought you would want to hear some different opinions!

I don't agree though

Date: 2004-07-15 07:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cleolinda.livejournal.com
Hee. Well, that's fine. If you want, tell 'em that my "Fifteen Minutes" are about 5000 words each because my publisher wants a book of ten movies at a total of 50,000 words. THAT'S my excuse. ;)

But yeah. I do appreciate different opinions. I was reading over "Van Helsing," and it is much shorter than the others, and I could stand to cut down a bit. Still, it's always charming to be told you "need to take lessons" from someone else. ;)

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Date: 2004-07-15 06:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jai-eu-froid.livejournal.com
I feel bad now

because I hate everyone on that website and they bash everything...>.>

Date: 2004-07-15 07:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cleolinda.livejournal.com
What, Fandom Wank? Well... there's sort of a big controversy on FW right now about the "old" people vs. the "new" people. I'm sort of on the "old" side--who say that the point is supposed to be about laughing at the silly things people (including ourselves) do. The "new" people, from one perspective, sometimes don't seem to understand that and go trolling a lot. So I'm not real happy with the current state of FW, no.

Date: 2004-07-15 06:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vodou-chile.livejournal.com
Another Six Feet Under addict! Yay!
I'm surprised at how few people on my friend's list watch that show.
I've been hooked since the first episode.

Date: 2004-07-15 07:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cleolinda.livejournal.com
The Lovely Emily is without HBO this summer, so she comes over here to watch, and that's how I've gotten into it. I'd never watched it before this season, but I keep up over at Television Without Pity, so I had a vague idea of what was going on.

Now, Carnivale season 2 I can hardly wait for. ;)

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Date: 2004-07-15 06:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mmariep2.livejournal.com
since you mention your book i'd like to pose a question.

in youre m15m's you usually have links to other places for references and stuff so those of us in the hehe "not know" know what you're talking about. if these are going into youre book how are you going to do this? are you going to have footnotes or stuff like that in the book? how will that work out?

just wondering.

Date: 2004-07-15 07:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cleolinda.livejournal.com
You and me both. I have no idea. As it is, the book will have all-new parodies, so I guess I'll just try not to put anything linky in there that would require busting out the footnotes.

Date: 2004-07-15 06:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] heinous_bitca.livejournal.com
The new icons are loffly, Cleo! Glad I could help contribute to the pretteh. :)

And you should totally make an animated icon of all the hot guys and have it say HOT GUYS FOR WORLD PEACE! *hee*

We just saw King Arthur today, and I held off reading until we got back. You've still got it, hon! Your m15m was spot on!

Date: 2004-07-15 07:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cleolinda.livejournal.com
Awww, thanks! (And double thanks for Photoshop.) Someone was just showing me some comment on some message board where someone thought it was "too long" and "one note," so it's good to see that other people actually like it.

Date: 2004-07-15 07:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] maiden117.livejournal.com
You're writing these into a book? That's the coolest thing ever.
I must say, that when it is published, I will have to run to my book store and order one, because you've got the funniest parady style I've ever read.
Keep it up, please! They're awesome!

Date: 2004-07-15 07:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zivia.livejournal.com
Has so many hot guys that people can't even muster the strength to discuss whether Clive Owen or Ioan Gruffudd is hotter. HOT GUYS FOR WORLD PEACE!

*giggle*

What a wonderful plan! World peace and something pretty to look at! That's the kind of world I want to live in! Besides arguing over the hotness takes away from precious drooling time.

Date: 2004-07-15 07:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] afropuff.livejournal.com
Have you seen this (http://www.livejournal.com/community/colorbar_love/835722.html#cutid1)? You've been CB_loved. :-)

Date: 2004-07-15 07:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] howielove2101.livejournal.com
I have ganked quite a few Troy icons... but I couldn't decide which ones I really liked, cause they're all fabulous!

Date: 2004-07-15 09:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] notalent.livejournal.com
On the Book subject, How will you translate the links into text format? a series of footnotes like it was Acadamia gone wild? or just paranthesis?

Loved King Aurthur btw, But i need to go relook at it now that im at home, the Treo would take too long to look at all the links

Date: 2004-07-16 04:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] velveteenfaerie.livejournal.com
Have you seen Spiderman 2? It could make a very good m15m...

Date: 2004-07-16 06:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pride4u2.livejournal.com
I took a bunch of the Troy icons...those are genius! Love them muchly. ;)

Date: 2004-07-16 06:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ex-krazycat651.livejournal.com
HOT GUYS FOR WORLD PEACE!

you know, I'd vote for that.

wait.. what party is it?

Date: 2004-07-16 07:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] define-catch22.livejournal.com
*waves* Hallo. I joined the m15m community thingie, and was wondering if I could attain posting access? *gives pleading look* Thankee.

Date: 2004-07-16 11:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cleolinda.livejournal.com
All members can already comment, and I'm pretty much the only one posting, so you ought to be all right. :)

Date: 2004-07-16 07:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hawleygriffen.livejournal.com
Ah, it's not fair King Arthur isn't swinging his big sword around in Britain, yet. I want to read the latest 15 Minutes!

OTOH,

HOT GUYS FOR WORLD PEACE!

Oh, yes, oh, yes, oh, yes. When can we start implementing this plan globally?

Date: 2004-07-16 09:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] word-herder.livejournal.com
As much as I love LoTR, I would do anything to read your parody of it. Your Boromir and Legolas jokes in the Troy icons are priceless.

Date: 2004-07-16 10:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lacrimaeveneris.livejournal.com
Cleeeeeeo!! I like your journal, but I joined m15m too. Can I have posting access now pwease? Fankoo!
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