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cleolinda ([personal profile] cleolinda) wrote2007-10-02 06:36 pm

Boycotting has never been easier!

Okay, as I mentioned to someone else I was talking to, this may just be the week that I get unnecessarily worked up about things, but: I feel like this is something that has to be done, and that y'all are probably going to be with me on this.

I mentioned a detailed list of changes to The Dark Is Rising The Seeker in the linkspam Monday evening. To recap my experience with the books, I read The Grey King in grade school not knowing that it was part of a series, liked it but was very confused, and never got around to reading the other books even after I knew. So I'm not a pissed-off fan talking here, although I do know what the books are actually like, in part. I know enough to know what a travesty this movie is, basically. Let's also recap some of the major points from [livejournal.com profile] kiandra_fire's list:

1) Arthurian legend does not play a part.

2) Will is a thirteen-year-old American with neglectful parents and bullying brothers.

3) "Will goes to the mall and is accused of shoplifting by security guards, who take him to their office, demand the signs, then turn into rooks and chase him around the mall."

4) The Walker is young and the Rider has a white horse.

5) "Merriman relies on a mace... Miss Greythorne is rocking her swordcane on two fully-functional legs."

6) Will has a crush on Maggie Barnes and Max is working for the Dark.

7) "Will is Superman, Jr., with super strength and a bunch of other powers. He just can't fly. Alexander Ludwig says in his interview that he regrets he doesn't have this power as well, but — what was it? Ah, yes — 'It would totally change the whole story though.' " OH, WELL THEN.

8) Ian McShane: " 'I think the one thing I wanted to bring to this was reality,' he says. 'It was written in Old English.' "

9) Will has a twin.

10) OLD ENGLISH? ARE YOU SHITTING ME?

I just realized that this is coming out this Friday, so I'm going to say something, I have to say it now. Let me explain why I care about this, and why you should, even beyond the obvious suggestion that I'm a writer and I feel horrified for Susan Cooper. No, first and foremost--nothing has made me happier than the fantasy movie renaissance of the last seven years, and given y'all's responses to things I've posted, I'm pretty sure most of y'all are fantasy fans as well. And so far, miraculously, we've gotten by with extremely respectful adaptations. In the beginning, LOTR and HP (both in 2001) set excellent precedents for faithful book adaptations making shitloads of money, and most subsequent productions have followed in their footsteps. (And yes, the Harry Potter movies have made tons of changes and omissions over the years, but--go back up and read that Dark Is Rising list and see if you don't look at the Harry Potter changes in a totally different light now.) The Lemony Snicket movie changed a few things, including more of a wrap-up at the end, but they all worked, and the rest of the movie was so obviously trying to capture the books. The Narnia movie was fantastic, the Dark Materials people are obviously trying to be as faithful as possible despite the religion issue, Stardust made some majorish changes but was still a lovely adaptation--the only other really, really horrible travesty I can think of off the top of my head was the Earthsea miniseries, and it bombed, so, you know, faithful = money was still being upheld.

What if The Dark Is Rising adaptation ("adaptation") is a hit?

Oh, the studios will say, you can still make a ton of money, but you can do whatever you want? You can change the story and put in pointless but trendy family conflicts, love interests, younger characters? You can squeeze action into bizarre places and completely miss the point of the story? You can whittle it down until it hardly resembles the original at all? Wow, this is really convenient! All this time, we were busting our collective ass for nothing! Why bother actually trying to do the work of translating a beloved property to a different medium? We can just use a known title to sell people a completely different story, and it doesn't even have to be any good!

You see why I'm getting concerned here.

Think of any book series they haven't put on screen yet--because they will, particularly now that Harry Potter has run its course and there's only two movies left. Think of any series you love. The Seeker: The Dark Is Rising is what could happen to those books. In fact, I've heard that they're just calling it The Seeker now, which, as people have pointed out, is a term also used in... Harry Potter.

So what I'm asking is this: please, please do not go see this movie. Wait all of three months for it to come out on DVD, if you just need to see Christopher Eccleston the carnage. If you're talking to people about what movies you're all thinking of seeing, but they're not familiar with the books, "Oh, I've heard it's terrible. Basically, a really lame Harry Potter rip-off" ought to suffice. If you're actually talking to Susan Cooper fans, make sure they know that The Seeker is, in fact, a Dark Is Rising adaptation, despite all indications to the contrary. Make sure that people know how flippantly they've massacred the whole thing, and talk as many people out of seeing it as you can. Meanwhile, I'm going to go get the actual books--probably for Christmas--and try to support Susan Cooper that way. If you love the books already, now would be an excellent time to get a set for a young relative, for example, and try to pull in new readers. What I'm basically asking you to do is vote with your wallet--even if you don't want to spread the word, not seeing a movie is a pretty easy thing to do. This shit cannot be allowed to stand, y'all.


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[identity profile] amberdulen.livejournal.com 2007-10-03 01:00 pm (UTC)(link)
I do believe we have another thing to add to the List O' Heartbreak: Will uses Google.

If only it was that easy!

[identity profile] clodia-risa.livejournal.com 2007-10-03 01:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh god! *twitches* Worse? No way I'm seeing it now. The screenwriters for Les Miz should have been shot.

not having read the comments...

[identity profile] biomekanic.livejournal.com 2007-10-03 01:17 pm (UTC)(link)
I just finished reading His Dark Materials and the news that they're cutting religious references out of the movies?... Dude!?! WTF?!?

What are they going to do? Talk about the Urch-chay and oul-chays?

[identity profile] eruvadhril.livejournal.com 2007-10-03 02:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh yeah. It keeps getting worse. My feelings are summed up here, (http://kalinara.blogspot.com/2007/07/non-comic-dark-is-rising.html) much more coherently than I could have done myself. If I spend more than two minutes talking about this movie, I'm generally reduced to being unable to say anything except "KILL IT WITH FIRE" for half an hour.
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[identity profile] annlarimer.livejournal.com 2007-10-03 02:11 pm (UTC)(link)
3) "Will goes to the mall and is accused of shoplifting by security guards, who take him to their office, demand the signs, then turn into rooks and chase him around the mall."

A film by Jonathan Frakes.
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[identity profile] sistermagpie.livejournal.com 2007-10-03 02:11 pm (UTC)(link)
It's sad how happy I am to read the bad review that was posted, though I hope there are at least some from fans of the book who recommend those instead of seeing this movie, which is apparently brainless in its own right.

Why am I not surprised Will the Seeker and Will the Watchman becomes Will the Warrior adolescent who gets to beat up bullies.
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[identity profile] ladycat777.livejournal.com 2007-10-03 02:12 pm (UTC)(link)
OH MY GOD.

Just. I don't get it. If you're going to option the book, option the book. Otherwise, drop any association with the book, change the names, and just go from there. It's not that hard.

And I do get that books made into movies rarely are similar to the books themselves. I mean, I remember watching the horrible Black Stallion when I was a child and figured if it was on screen it'd be even better than the books because then I'd get to see real live horses.

Yes. I was that eight year old girl.

But -- if you give me something that takes the heart of the book, or the message of the book, I can forgive a lot. This? Oh my god, this I can't forgive.

[identity profile] daemonnoire.livejournal.com 2007-10-03 02:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Hey, you gotta give the guy credit. After Lawnmower Man came out, he started getting more involved in the production of movies "inspired" by his books. Which is how we got The Green Mile and The Shawshank Redemption.

[identity profile] quenbolyn.livejournal.com 2007-10-03 02:32 pm (UTC)(link)
There already is one (http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=4907268493).

[identity profile] foresworn.livejournal.com 2007-10-03 03:37 pm (UTC)(link)
First I was excited for this movie, cause the book had some good stuff. Now they've changed all the good stuff. Now it's a crappy kids movie.

10) OLD ENGLISH? ARE YOU SHITTING ME?

WURD.

[identity profile] lotusbiosm.livejournal.com 2007-10-03 04:47 pm (UTC)(link)
What I think would be awesome is if the sales of the book go up in a noticable way but the movie tanks. That will really show that people are interested in the story, they just don't like unfaithful adaptations.

[identity profile] amberdulen.livejournal.com 2007-10-03 05:27 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm afraid that someone will think that the book sales are going up because people liked the movie, not the other way around.

[identity profile] zikade.livejournal.com 2007-10-03 05:35 pm (UTC)(link)
you realize that with a boycott, you are making ppl curious about this movie, right?

I never heard of the books before, and only thanks to Chris Eccleston and the boycott I am interested to see the movie and read the books later.

Are you such a good girl, that you recommend to buy DVDs instead of torrenting it down, cough cough.

[identity profile] velvet4269.livejournal.com 2007-10-03 05:57 pm (UTC)(link)
True - and both of those were *fabulous.*

[identity profile] dietcokebreak.livejournal.com 2007-10-03 06:09 pm (UTC)(link)
All Things Considered on NPR did a story on this situation on Monday. (http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=14783609)

1. Susan Cooper knows they butchered her book and she isn't really sure what to say about it. I feel bad for her, but at the same time, don't know why she sold the film rights. She KNOWS her story isn't easily translatable to the screen.

2. John Hodge flat out says that they changed stuff so it wouldn't be Harry Potter, but it sounds like that isn't what happened.

3. NOTHING is mentioned in the story about the internet backlash going on with this film. Now I never read the books, never even heard of them (despite my usual fantasy/sci awareness) until the backlash for the films started flooding the web. I think it will be interesting to see how this film does at the box office, especially when places like IMDB and your journal, Cleo, among others, are talking up the boycott.
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[identity profile] mandie-rw.livejournal.com 2007-10-03 07:14 pm (UTC)(link)
Wow. American (because an American audience just COULDN'T connect with the character if he were ENGLISH), malls, a twin, and...Old English.
I'm linking to your page and am DEFINITELY not going to see the movie.

[identity profile] lylassandra.livejournal.com 2007-10-03 07:46 pm (UTC)(link)
No, we Americans just hate them British characters. Like that Harry Potter bastard. And James Bond. And Obi-Wan Kenobi. And Elizabeth Bennett. Oh, and Jack Sparrow and company? Are right out.

[identity profile] floatingpencil.livejournal.com 2007-10-03 08:46 pm (UTC)(link)
You couldn't pay me to see this travesty.

After waiting for a film from this series for twenty years, I am so disgusted and frankly furious with the pile of utter trash they are turning out that I just want to find and burn every last copy of this pathetic excuse for an adaptation.

God, I hope it bombs. I mean, never-work-in-this-town-again, loses-millions style.

[identity profile] disturbed-kiwi.livejournal.com 2007-10-03 09:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, that was a bunch of strangeness but it still looks more faithful than this Seeker business...

I hadn't actually imagined that Prydain could be chosen to make a movie of, but the idea makes me very hopeful now.

[identity profile] maetang.livejournal.com 2007-10-03 09:58 pm (UTC)(link)
The more I hear about the movie "adapation", the more I just want to weep.

The Dark is Rising cycle made me want to learn Welsh when I was growing up! In Singapore! That's how much I loved it.

It deserves a lot better than this treatment.

I wish there were some kind of campaign, where readers and fans could buy a copy of the books, and send them to the filmmaker, or the studio, or someone who might pay attention to the possibility of sequels, and say something like: "Here are the books which we know and love. For God's sake, READ THEM! Then READ THEM again! Repeat until you understand just what a travesty your film version will be, and then don't. Just don't. PS: I will be boycotting your movie, and telling all my friends and family to do the same." Or something along those lines.

[identity profile] cleolinda.livejournal.com 2007-10-03 10:19 pm (UTC)(link)
I personally recommend Netflix, since you're already paying for the service and not any DVD in particular, or cable (same theory).

As for making you interested, that's the risk you run when you tell people to avoid something. I'm hoping to offset that by making Susan Cooper fans (and casual fantasy fans) aware of what this movie actually is, so they don't go, "Oh, hey, random movie, looks interesting, let's see it." They've done such a good job of butchering the movie and then disguising it with a different title that several people have mentioned they didn't even realize what it was an adaptation of.

[identity profile] cleolinda.livejournal.com 2007-10-03 10:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, she sold the rights years ago to the Henson company, so I'm sure she thought it would be vastly different; they probably expressed a great deal of enthusiasm for her actual writing. The problem is that that deal expired and another studio scooped them up.

I saw what Hodge said about it not being HP, and--you know what, I get the feeling that Hodge adapting fantasy is like someone who hates romance novels trying to write one. Because you don't respect or even know the genre very well at all, you have no idea what you're doing or what the actual tropes are.

And see, exactly about the boycott--the "astroturfing" phenomenon (where they pretend like people are actually excited about the movie) is fascinating to me. And I want people to know that, you know, folks are actually pissed about this. Me saying something isn't going to do much in and of itself, but people reading this and posting something themselves could snowball until it shows up on the mainstream media's radar. I mean, if that crazy Britney fan on YouTube can get national attention, surely "Internet fan outrage causes movie to tank" is worth a few seconds.

[identity profile] lauramcvey.livejournal.com 2007-10-03 10:47 pm (UTC)(link)
"Yeah, we'll just cut Eponine*, take Enjolras's personality away in order to make him a Token Minoity (TM), make Cosette a spoiled brat, have Valjean smack her around, slap Grantaire's name onto a POLICE INFORMER ON THE ABC SOCIETY** . . ." *gnashes teeth*

*Watching the "I've never read the book, but I love 'On My Own'!" brigade have a collective hissy fit was kind of funny, though.

**Way to kill my OTP, you bastards.

I'm sure I'm opening a can of worms here, but . . .

[identity profile] lauramcvey.livejournal.com 2007-10-03 11:16 pm (UTC)(link)
Eragon? Good? What?

Re: I'm sure I'm opening a can of worms here, but . . .

[identity profile] lilotelasserie.livejournal.com 2007-10-03 11:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Heh. I was expecting someone to react like that. All I can say is that the first (and only) time I read Eragon, I did like it. And you have to admit that in comparison, the book is way better than the movie.

My point was just that Eragon is another example of using the title of a well-known and well-liked (by some people) story to sell something that shouldn't even have the same name.

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