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cleolinda ([personal profile] cleolinda) wrote2007-10-02 06:36 pm

Boycotting has never been easier!

Okay, as I mentioned to someone else I was talking to, this may just be the week that I get unnecessarily worked up about things, but: I feel like this is something that has to be done, and that y'all are probably going to be with me on this.

I mentioned a detailed list of changes to The Dark Is Rising The Seeker in the linkspam Monday evening. To recap my experience with the books, I read The Grey King in grade school not knowing that it was part of a series, liked it but was very confused, and never got around to reading the other books even after I knew. So I'm not a pissed-off fan talking here, although I do know what the books are actually like, in part. I know enough to know what a travesty this movie is, basically. Let's also recap some of the major points from [livejournal.com profile] kiandra_fire's list:

1) Arthurian legend does not play a part.

2) Will is a thirteen-year-old American with neglectful parents and bullying brothers.

3) "Will goes to the mall and is accused of shoplifting by security guards, who take him to their office, demand the signs, then turn into rooks and chase him around the mall."

4) The Walker is young and the Rider has a white horse.

5) "Merriman relies on a mace... Miss Greythorne is rocking her swordcane on two fully-functional legs."

6) Will has a crush on Maggie Barnes and Max is working for the Dark.

7) "Will is Superman, Jr., with super strength and a bunch of other powers. He just can't fly. Alexander Ludwig says in his interview that he regrets he doesn't have this power as well, but — what was it? Ah, yes — 'It would totally change the whole story though.' " OH, WELL THEN.

8) Ian McShane: " 'I think the one thing I wanted to bring to this was reality,' he says. 'It was written in Old English.' "

9) Will has a twin.

10) OLD ENGLISH? ARE YOU SHITTING ME?

I just realized that this is coming out this Friday, so I'm going to say something, I have to say it now. Let me explain why I care about this, and why you should, even beyond the obvious suggestion that I'm a writer and I feel horrified for Susan Cooper. No, first and foremost--nothing has made me happier than the fantasy movie renaissance of the last seven years, and given y'all's responses to things I've posted, I'm pretty sure most of y'all are fantasy fans as well. And so far, miraculously, we've gotten by with extremely respectful adaptations. In the beginning, LOTR and HP (both in 2001) set excellent precedents for faithful book adaptations making shitloads of money, and most subsequent productions have followed in their footsteps. (And yes, the Harry Potter movies have made tons of changes and omissions over the years, but--go back up and read that Dark Is Rising list and see if you don't look at the Harry Potter changes in a totally different light now.) The Lemony Snicket movie changed a few things, including more of a wrap-up at the end, but they all worked, and the rest of the movie was so obviously trying to capture the books. The Narnia movie was fantastic, the Dark Materials people are obviously trying to be as faithful as possible despite the religion issue, Stardust made some majorish changes but was still a lovely adaptation--the only other really, really horrible travesty I can think of off the top of my head was the Earthsea miniseries, and it bombed, so, you know, faithful = money was still being upheld.

What if The Dark Is Rising adaptation ("adaptation") is a hit?

Oh, the studios will say, you can still make a ton of money, but you can do whatever you want? You can change the story and put in pointless but trendy family conflicts, love interests, younger characters? You can squeeze action into bizarre places and completely miss the point of the story? You can whittle it down until it hardly resembles the original at all? Wow, this is really convenient! All this time, we were busting our collective ass for nothing! Why bother actually trying to do the work of translating a beloved property to a different medium? We can just use a known title to sell people a completely different story, and it doesn't even have to be any good!

You see why I'm getting concerned here.

Think of any book series they haven't put on screen yet--because they will, particularly now that Harry Potter has run its course and there's only two movies left. Think of any series you love. The Seeker: The Dark Is Rising is what could happen to those books. In fact, I've heard that they're just calling it The Seeker now, which, as people have pointed out, is a term also used in... Harry Potter.

So what I'm asking is this: please, please do not go see this movie. Wait all of three months for it to come out on DVD, if you just need to see Christopher Eccleston the carnage. If you're talking to people about what movies you're all thinking of seeing, but they're not familiar with the books, "Oh, I've heard it's terrible. Basically, a really lame Harry Potter rip-off" ought to suffice. If you're actually talking to Susan Cooper fans, make sure they know that The Seeker is, in fact, a Dark Is Rising adaptation, despite all indications to the contrary. Make sure that people know how flippantly they've massacred the whole thing, and talk as many people out of seeing it as you can. Meanwhile, I'm going to go get the actual books--probably for Christmas--and try to support Susan Cooper that way. If you love the books already, now would be an excellent time to get a set for a young relative, for example, and try to pull in new readers. What I'm basically asking you to do is vote with your wallet--even if you don't want to spread the word, not seeing a movie is a pretty easy thing to do. This shit cannot be allowed to stand, y'all.


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[identity profile] tinuviell.livejournal.com 2007-10-03 01:12 am (UTC)(link)
Thank you, Cleo, for stating the sheer awfulness, and the danger, of this travesty of a movie far better than I have been able to when warning people away. I'll be borrowing some of your reasons next time I talk to someone about this movie. As a fantasy fan hoping one day for a proper adaptation of Lloyd Alexander's Chronicles of Prydain, seeing what they've done to Cooper's work (which I've loved and admired for years) scares me. It's just so sad to see no one involved with the movie caring about the story at all.

(I am a frequent lurker on your LJ but I think this is my first comment. I'm Luthien at SF and have always found your journal to be one of the most reliable sources for movie news around).

[identity profile] redcoast.livejournal.com 2007-10-03 01:14 am (UTC)(link)
Heh.

Or that proposal for how Cuaron would do Harry Potter, with Harry as a sassy nine-year-old and Dumbledore as an elderly black woman and the whole thing is set in New York instead of a magic school.

[identity profile] cleolinda.livejournal.com 2007-10-03 01:16 am (UTC)(link)
Heeee.

By the way, I saw what you posted about the Empire costumes, and I had a major WTF moment that Emily Blunt was actually Camaro Camane, because I did a few recaps of that show back in the day. MAN, that thing was bad.

[identity profile] padawansguide.livejournal.com 2007-10-03 01:18 am (UTC)(link)
LOL! I've never seen it - but Emily Blunt looks pretty! :-)

[identity profile] bandersnatch42.livejournal.com 2007-10-03 01:21 am (UTC)(link)
Hear, hear!

[identity profile] cleolinda.livejournal.com 2007-10-03 01:23 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I think that's what pissed me off more than anything. The only thing that makes me feel better is how uniformly up in arms people have been about this.

[identity profile] crimsonclad.livejournal.com 2007-10-03 01:24 am (UTC)(link)
That series was VITAL to my early formation as a fantasy reader, and I can't even THINK about this travesty without getting furious.

UGH. UGH. UGH.

[identity profile] cleolinda.livejournal.com 2007-10-03 01:26 am (UTC)(link)
Very easy! Buy a ticket for another movie and then slip into this one. I don't know how your local theater(s) work(s), but mine, they actually take tickets at the front of the lobby, and you could pretty much run wild and free after that. I mean, they'd probably notice if you were 12 and went straight to Hostel 6, but something like this, they wouldn't even blink.

[identity profile] crimsonclad.livejournal.com 2007-10-03 01:26 am (UTC)(link)
I love Gone in 60 Seconds! I believe it is an adaptation of Dickens' Our Mutual Friend.

[identity profile] greenwitch.livejournal.com 2007-10-03 01:29 am (UTC)(link)
Addendum -- I've just dugg (http://digg.com/movies/Dark_Is_Rising_In_depth_Analysis) the initial [livejournal.com profile] authorblog post, if anyone cares to join in.

[identity profile] therecklesslady.livejournal.com 2007-10-03 01:29 am (UTC)(link)
YES. Though after the WTFery that was "The Black Cauldron" I don't want anyone touching those books in the movie world ever ever again.

[identity profile] count-01.livejournal.com 2007-10-03 01:34 am (UTC)(link)
You, and every other Stephen King fan, should throw yourself in front of one of his awful movie "adaptations."

I hseitate to say "bus" because I really do admire the guy, he's a prolific (if awful) writer and a damned decent fellow, but seriously, we could have saved a whole lot of trees if he'd remained as obscure as he should have. I have yet to read anything by him that's remotely worthwhile, yet people buy them by the millions, so naturally he keeps crankin' 'em out...ughhhhhh.

[identity profile] queenofattolia.livejournal.com 2007-10-03 01:40 am (UTC)(link)
This will be worse. Count on it.

I love Eccleston, but they couldn't pay me enough money to see this dreck. I'll watch my DW eps. instead.

[identity profile] queenofattolia.livejournal.com 2007-10-03 01:50 am (UTC)(link)
Thank you for posting this. You're absolutely right - the total arrogance of these filmmakers is staggering. I understand that certain things have to be cut, compressed or slightly changed from the original material in order to do a viable, commerical film, but this is too much, especially in light of the HP and Narnia adaptations.

These guys should be forced (a la A Clockwork Orange, itself an admirable and respectful film adaptation) to watch the film version of To Kill A Mockingbird on a loop for 24 hours straight. Not that it would do any good, really, but it might hurt them to finally realize how moronic they are.

Boycott The [FEH] Seeker.

[identity profile] earendilgrey.livejournal.com 2007-10-03 01:55 am (UTC)(link)
Yea, I'm on the second book right now and if it ever gets made they will horribly butcher it. Thought I already know that one of my fave scenes will be cut out of the first one, or at least be shown in a different way(the bear fight).

[identity profile] cleolinda.livejournal.com 2007-10-03 01:59 am (UTC)(link)
Hmm. Well, it's not so much that I don't want to hear it as that they seem to be making a genuine effort at fidelity, the religious issues aside. I mean, Chris Weitz and several of the actors seem to genuinely love the books, unlike the Dark Is Rising people. As for the religious issues, I'm going to wait and see how the movies actually handle those.

[identity profile] cleolinda.livejournal.com 2007-10-03 02:01 am (UTC)(link)
Luthien, hey! I've put you on the Snarkfest filter now--not that there's really anything on it, but you can go to http://cleolinda.livejournal.com/friends/Snarkfest to read SFers' entries.

[identity profile] cleolinda.livejournal.com 2007-10-03 02:04 am (UTC)(link)
That... that was not the reaction I was hoping for.

[identity profile] wendyzski.livejournal.com 2007-10-03 02:06 am (UTC)(link)
I caught the tale end of a commercial for it yesterday and it's only called "The Seeker" in it.

Pleh.

[identity profile] awanderingbard.livejournal.com 2007-10-03 02:10 am (UTC)(link)
It would work at my theatre too. My brother's girlfriend had to leave Hostel because she was so freaked out (she wasn't warned ahead of time what it would be like) and snuck into Narnia to calm herself down without anyone making a fuss. As far as I'm concerned, you paid to see a movie, it doesn't matter which one you see as long as you aren't trying to gank a free one out of it.

[identity profile] cleolinda.livejournal.com 2007-10-03 02:10 am (UTC)(link)
She does! It was this six-episode thing ABC rushed out the summer before HBO started up Rome, and it had a budget of about fifty bucks. It was some of the worst, most awesome television I've ever seen, and every single line or scene was stolen from some movie. The best part is, Emily Blunt--who I totally associate with her Prada character now, and I pretty much expect her to be rocking fantastic bitchface 24/7--is this wispy vestal virgin who does terrible voiceovers. I never realized that was her at all, even in retrospect, until you posted those pictures.

[identity profile] prncssaurora.livejournal.com 2007-10-03 02:20 am (UTC)(link)
LOLZ.

[identity profile] piratefanatic.livejournal.com 2007-10-03 02:20 am (UTC)(link)
Pullman himself seems pretty happy about the movie as well. Sure, the movie's not exactly like the book, but if the author is happy? That's good enough for me!
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[personal profile] sandelwood 2007-10-03 02:21 am (UTC)(link)
Let me reiterate, New Line's money-grubbing, bookcooking, pity-me-I-was-in-a-coma ASSHAT of a CEO who frankly could give a fuck less if the films are faithful, since he'd be much happier if they were merely popular, if he's going to come out of this with a bankroll.

And since a faithful adaption and America's religous-right fundie groups don't mix well, you can bet on the fact that if they make the rest of the HDM trilogy, they aren't going to be faithful. And they aren't even going to have a plot by then. I love the books too, but if Hollywood can rape the Dark is Rising, do you honestly think New Line's willing to take a chance at pissing off a hearty chunk of American movie goers, when they're so close and getting closer with each lawsuit to filing Chapter 11? I don't think so. Because even if the director and the stars love it, it's the bureaucrats that ultimately make that decision. If LOTR was at all allegorical (which it wasn't), the Christ figure won. HDM on the other hand brings down the Catholic church. Which do you think sounds better in an election year where faith is going to be a hot topic? They're being mighty quiet on GC's religous connotations at all, as far as I can see.

As it stands, NL hasn't even committed to the second and third books, and I'm willing to bet I guess why. Can you?

I don't trust Bob Shaye's New Line as far as I can throw him, not anymore. And I'm not about to let him continue screwing the people who did all the hard work while he sat behind a desk counting bills. Not even for a trilogy I enjoyed and once looked forward to seeing onscreen.
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[identity profile] dzurlady.livejournal.com 2007-10-03 02:22 am (UTC)(link)
Noooo! Seriously, look at pictures of him for two hours instead. It will be less painful and make more sense. This movie is so bad it overwhelms the awesomeness of Eccleston.

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