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[cleolinda]

Quick clarification on the Virginia story: I read the whole spiel at Daily Kos, and apparently what they're trying to do is target women who abandon babies in dumpsters. The problem is that the PROPOSED LAW does not target them. It's like saying that if anyone, anywhere, dies for any reason (heart attack? well-documented terminal illness? old age?), it's got to be reported to the homicide squad. If they want to target baby-dumping, they need to DO THAT, rather than force every single woman who ever miscarries at any stage of gestation, anywhere, to account for herself. You know, with words like "abandoning" and "receptacles not intended for babies, such as dumpsters, or the occasional birdbath."

Also, I just got back from class, and the professor raffled off her "desk copies" of our texts by having us choose a number between 1 and 100. Guess who won a brand new copy of Uncle Tom's Cabin? WHEE.

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[ferelwing.livejournal.com]

Yeah I read that. I have family in VA. I'm going to make it known to them.

[pygmymetal.livejournal.com]

You seem underwhelmed :p

[all-ephemera.livejournal.com]

Gee, you won a brand new copy of a book that you despise! Oh boy, the excitement is just emanating off of you. :)

[sarff-nodwydd.livejournal.com]

rather than force every single woman who ever miscarries at any stage of gestation, anywhere, to account for herself.

How are they going to enforce this? I have a friend who had two miscarriages last year. She wasn't even aware of the first one. It wasn't until she had the second one, that (with confirmation from her physician) that they realized that the earlier event had also been a miscarriage.

Many, many women have miscarriages very, very early in pregnancy and the embryo simply falls into the toilet or onto a pad and is gone with no one ever being the wiser.

I had a miscarriage in 1997. I had only just realized I was pregnant and pee'd on the stick. The next day, I started bleeding....and bleeding...and bleeding. I never bothered to report it. WHY would I?

Geez, some people really need to get their heads out of women's wombs.

[anne-jumps.livejournal.com]

The baby-dumping excuse comes from the guy who started the bill, and it's SUCH bullshit. There's nothing in it about already-born infants.

If they want to target baby-dumping, they need to DO THAT

The commenters at Kos said that VA already HAS baby-dumping laws.

The commenters at Metafilter and some other places felt that this was A) an attempt to make a miscarriage the same as an infant death; B) track those 'miscarriages' produced by EC and RU-486; and C) prepare for a post-Roe US in which all fertile women and pregnancies are tracked, such as happened in Romania (http://www.prochoiceforum.org.uk/psy_ocr9.asp).

[squirrelgirl22.livejournal.com]

Here in Chicago, people are allowed to drop off unwanted babies who are under 3 days old at any police station or fire house without retribution. Perhaps instead of a law banning baby dumping, VA should give mothers a place to drop off unwanted newborns. You know, something positive instead of negative?

[la-sonnambula.livejournal.com]

Oh my goodness, Uncle Tom's Cabin is like an annoying ex-boyfriend who wouldn't leave you alone.

[pistolharris.livejournal.com]

Wait... was it... hang on... I'll get this...

While I'm pondering that one, I'll just register my disgust at that misarriage law thing. It's not only morally wrong, it's just insane. Like death taxes, only like a thousand times worse.

AHA! IT WAS YOU! *end*

[jonquil.livejournal.com]

Second prize is two copies of Uncle Tom's Cabin.

[br0k3nsoul.livejournal.com]

That law is just outrageously insane and offensive. Miscarriages are very, very hard to track. Many of them happen before the mother even knows that she had conceived. While I am morally against abortion, legally I think everybody needs to keep their hands off my damn uterus. Especially when it comes to something as tragic as a miscarriage!

[theendofallthat.livejournal.com]

I read a comment on this in another community saying we should send the guy our used "feminine products" because...hey, you never know.

[girlalmighty]

Oh my god. I have American Lit: 1845 to the Present next semester. The little list of authors in the course description didn't say anything about Stowe, but it's such a classic they'll probably thrust it on us anyhow. I really hope not, though. o_0 I've escaped reading it so far, and I hope to keep on Not Reading It.

Maybe you can just write the cleolinda-version of SparkNotes for Uncle Tom's Cabin and save some of the rest of us the trouble. ;) Though I imagine that by now you're like "If I have to read this AGAIN, they can read it too."

craziness

[ayn-rand-fan-13.livejournal.com]

I read Catch-22 last year, and I could like, literally hear the whistling noises as it went straight over my head. I'm really into order, so it was like no! stop with the crazy! I NEED PLOT!!

[sihleira.livejournal.com]

Woe, need to finish le beauteous Catch-22. Started it last summer, had to return it to the library before I got a chance to finish it...

And also, the miscarriage thing? How are they planning to enforce it? If you had a miscarriage in your own home, they could hardly find out about it.

[elbales]

Thanks for the link and info on the Virginia thing. I posted in my journal, and a friend ganked my post for her journal. So word's really really spreading.

[ambiguousreason.livejournal.com]

Yeah, but... I'm quite possibly missing something about miscarriages, but if you have a miscarriage, it's not like there's a dead baby that comes out of your uterus, is there? Unless you're pretty far along, but in that case you'd have to go to the doctor, so... I don't know. The whole thing is stupid.

At least you don't have to, like, pay for a copy.

[aki.livejournal.com]

Oh, I had ignored that link because I was sure it would be to this (http://www.365gay.com/newscon05/01/010405vaLicense.htm)... What IS up with VA?

[bitterbert.livejournal.com]

It's a hell of a good book if you've never read it.
I completely agree that this law misses it's intended goal by a mile. When we stage our coups I'll be sure that the vassalage of virginia has good relations with the Queendom of Alabama.

Sorry if this makes no sense, the insomniac dumb assedness of the entire day has caught up with me and I am behaving eccentricly.

Hi

[ailehtac03.livejournal.com]

Dunno if you've heard yet, or if Emerson or someone emailed you, but ... POA in 15 minutes is now in the Movie Spoofs section on MuggleNet!

It's about 6 months roo late, but oh well.

[mustang-bex1126.livejournal.com]

I meant to mention- This is crazy too but most states have laws that say that any death not in the company of a licensed physician (even terminal illness etc) MUST have an autopsy and investigation to make sure that it wasn't a homicide... Nevada's is particularly strict and unusual if I recall, effectively being EXACTLY what you said... STUPID lawmakers....