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OMGWTFSIXFEETUNDER!

I have to say, Alan Ball completely fucked the "Entourage" premiere over, because who the hell wants to watch some dumb half-hour Hollywood comedy after watching that trauma for well nigh on twenty minutes?

I mean, WHAT THE FUCK WAS THAT ABOUT? David picks up some random freakshow, drives around with him for five minutes of screen time, and then gets taken hostage, robbed, beat up, forced to do crack, and nearly set on fire? For real, why did we have to watch this for almost half an hour? I don't have a problem with the show trying to be like, "Look, David is insecure and prone to random hookups and Keith is off on tour with that crazy Michelle Trachtenberg character, and this is what he gets for picking up a stranger like a moron." I have a problem with the show drawing the plotline out for half the show, no commercials or interruptions or breaks or relief of any kind, and turning the show into a complete horror movie. Basically, it was as if the show itself had been hijacked--as if the viewer were, too--and while I'm sure that's envelope-pushing and ground-breaking and great television and what the fuck all, I feel angry for having sat through the whole thing.

YOU MADE MY BEST FRIEND CRY, HORS!

Date: 2004-07-18 07:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] risen-phoenix.livejournal.com
I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought it was fucked up. x_x; Everyone I know was like 'YAYSIXFEETUNDER ZOMG!' Ugh.

Date: 2004-07-18 08:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] handful.livejournal.com
I know they were going for that feeling, like hey, watch us take YOU out, bitches, but you're right.

I feel unclean. And cranky. And VERY UNCLEAN.

Date: 2004-07-18 08:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] iczer6.livejournal.com
I never watched SFU so I can't comment on the ep, but I do wonder that like some fics, comics and movies if the show got so wrapped up in being 'dark' and 'edgey' that they forgot to tell an interesting story.

Really watching someone be pointlessly tortured isn't entertainment, it's punishment.


Icz

Date: 2004-07-18 08:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cleolinda.livejournal.com
Man, the TWOP thread for the ep went up in flames--I assure you, we are not the only angry viewers right now.

http://forums.televisionwithoutpity.com/index.php?showtopic=3117754&st=0

Date: 2004-07-18 08:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cleolinda.livejournal.com
My main problem is that they made it go on for so long. I mean, be shocking, be controversial, whatever, but seriously, there was no reason to drag it out practically in real time.

I spent the first half of "Entourage" hating everyone just on principle, I was so mad. Damn.

Date: 2004-07-18 08:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] handful.livejournal.com
I put in Firefly and watched Jaynestown to cheer up. That always works.

And I'm with you. Groundbreaking and gritty and shocking, fine. But OMG not for that long, it just made me upset. Of course, I cry at the Little Mermaid, so it's all relative.

Date: 2004-07-18 08:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] callmesandy.livejournal.com
Surfing in from friendsfriends - and I could not agree more. It went on too long. It felt like some weird melodramatic thing that just kept pushing and pushing and I swear - it was TOO MUCH. Whatever they were trying to communicate or do, they went over the top in a bad way. It's so alienating, from a show that I generally enjoy for the characters, not for the edgy crazy stuff.

I feel brutalized, and not in some "wow, cool!" way, but like, why do I watch this show? I care about David, the actors and previous stories have made me like David. This episode just makes feel jerked around and manipulated.

Date: 2004-07-18 08:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] loesaurus.livejournal.com
This one truly sucked. My Husband and I always end a show with some variant of "wow, ok" and commence to discussing it. Tonight, though, tonight was....WTF. I agree with the others, it would have been fine for a little while, but it just went on and on and on...SFU has never depressed me this much.

Date: 2004-07-18 09:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vodou-chile.livejournal.com
Holy fuck that episode was intense!
After it was over, I did think it was kind of odd that they spent so much uninterrupted time on that segment (usually the show hops around quite a bit).
And DAMMIT, I want to know more about that psychic and the Lisa thing.

As you know I've been into this thing from the beginning, so I'm pretty attached to the characters.
I already got my heart ripped out when they killed off Lisa.
Tonight (last night) I was on the couch horrified that they were going to take out David, then pissed that they fucked with my head like that.

God I love this show! :)
Damn you Alan Ball!

Date: 2004-07-18 10:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] priceyeah.livejournal.com
Anything's better than subpots involving the derivation of formica. An improvement over most of the last three eps.

Date: 2004-07-18 10:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ianbrill.livejournal.com
While I thought it was interesting that they did what they did for a 1/2 hour straight, I didn't think much of the particular storyline. They didn't need it to be like "let's hijack the viewers, too." It was a device that drew attention to itself.

I still want to see what happens next episode, though.

not as manipulative as it could have been

Date: 2004-07-18 10:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stavia.livejournal.com
I'm pissed about it, but I don't think I'm pissed in the same way.

After two years ago when we got the white screen treatment with Nate's name on it I know we cannot put ANYTHING past these people. So you have to just trust them sometimes. I would not have been surprised if we'd taken another alternate-SFU branch with David dying.

I just hope it leads to something. Some change in David's life. Too much shit happens to David without consequences. Until his life flashed before his eyes at the end, I was thinking it was ... disrespectful, in a way ... that there had been no mention or flashback of the gay kid who was beaten to death in a previous season. Because surely that's what David was thinking about.

Still, I was kind of glad they kept showing us David instead of showing us the other crap. I'm into David and Keith. I'm into Claire. I am NOT into George's son, or Rico's marriage, and I don't give a damn about poor dead Lisa. I love Lili Taylor and would gladly have her babies, but as far as her presence on SFU, I was glad to see her go. She was always a total bitch to Nate, I don't know why he even wants her back, and so on. The character was one-dimensional in her supposed complexity.

One really bothering-me part of this whole night (in some shallow hey-it's-only-tv way) was the promos for next week, where David doesn't want to tell the Fishers what happened. WTF. The COMPANY VAN is stolen, and a ... client ... is left in the middle of the street, and you don't tell your partners how it came about? Bullshit. There's no way David will be able to hide this event from anyone, and I'm hoping they surprise me next week showing me how the promos were misleading.

PS. That was sort of a commercial for crack. I don't think I've ever seen someone depicted smoking crack on a 'mainstream' TV show before and enjoying it.

Re: not as manipulative as it could have been

Date: 2004-07-18 10:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cleolinda.livejournal.com
Yeah, The Lovely Emily was telling me about the whole Nate May Actually Be Dead thing. I'm completely new to the show this season--except for hearing about the show in general on Television Without Pity--which may be why I was so completely traumatized by the whole thing.

As for crack--you know, I didn't think about that, but yeah, you don't see that every day. But as Chris Rock used to say, "Ain't nobody got to sell you crack! Crack sells itself!"

Date: 2004-07-18 10:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] risen-phoenix.livejournal.com
Hoooo.

That little inferno is going to be smouldering for a while. Sheesh. >_>;

Date: 2004-07-19 12:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] walerich.livejournal.com
i'm sorry. it has nothing to do with six feet under.. i just want to know where do you all do these portraits (your icon)?

Date: 2004-07-19 01:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] walerich.livejournal.com
oh, ok i just found it myself :)

Re: not as manipulative as it could have been

Date: 2004-07-19 05:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rexmanning.livejournal.com
"I'm completely new to the show this season--except for hearing about the show in general on Television Without Pity--which may be why I was so completely traumatized by the whole thing."

Oh, yes. That's sweet. You will soon learn that SFU wants to make you mad. I actually didn't see this episode (and am really scared of it now) but it is a grand tradition on this show to totally fuck up the main characters out of nowhere, apparently for no reason whatsoever.

Date: 2004-07-19 01:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ubel-josh.livejournal.com
You cry at The Little Mermaid too?

Date: 2004-07-19 01:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ubel-josh.livejournal.com
Lisa is dead. I'm sure the psychic was talking about Brenda.

Nate: She's dead....
Psychic: no she's (the one I'M talking about) alive.

Brenda.

Date: 2004-07-19 01:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vodou-chile.livejournal.com

Seems to easy.
They'd be missing an opportunity to weave in some ghostly sub-plot.
I know that Lisa is physically dead, but there's a lot they could do with her spiritually.

Date: 2004-07-19 03:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] handful.livejournal.com
Yeah, the part where she has to leave her daddy... it makes me all wibble.

I can't help it!

Date: 2004-07-20 12:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] christigilly.livejournal.com
ITA about that episode... the hell? (even quoted you in my blog (http://www.livejournal.com/users/christigilly/), not that anyone reads it).

Also, I didn't know how else to contact you and I thought you'd enjoy commenting on this (http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20040720/people_nm/people_jackson_dc) in your blog or wherever.

Date: 2004-07-20 01:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cleolinda.livejournal.com
AHHHHHHHHH. (Thanks--I put it up on cleolinda.blogspot.com, which is in desperate need of links.)

Date: 2004-07-20 01:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] christigilly.livejournal.com
No prob, yo. Keep up the good work : O) I'm always on the lookout for the funny (or WTF moments). I'll send the good stuff to ya.

Date: 2004-07-20 01:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] christigilly.livejournal.com
Oh, you'll love this.

You might even do a series on it: pick a few of your favorites and comment.
(http://www.disturbingauctions.com/)
()

Date: 2004-07-21 05:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] apoplexia.livejournal.com
Well, I finally got a chance to watch it last night. Perhaps because you'd left the (thankfully spoiler free) warning over at the other place *winks* it made it slightly easier, because I knew some bad shit was going to go down. Although it also meant that I spent the whole episode second-guessing myself. It was horrible to watch certainly. Traumatic? Absolutely. But I didn't find it gratuitous.

Date: 2004-07-21 08:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cleolinda.livejournal.com
Yeah--a lot of people have said that they were able to appreciate the episode on a second viewing. I think that most people who just sat down to watch a nice show on Sunday night, no warning at all, were the ones who got the angriest (like me).

Date: 2004-07-22 09:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] apoplexia.livejournal.com
Oh I am in no fucking hurry to watch that episode again. I gave the ep to a student yesterday and she came into my office today and was all: WTF? And I'm like: I know! I wanted to warn her, but you really can't, can you?

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