ext_14526 ([identity profile] cleolinda.livejournal.com) wrote in [personal profile] cleolinda 2005-04-26 12:39 pm (UTC)

You're absolutely right about that. Actually, "community" is one of the things I expand on in the paper--the idea that there's an "ideal community," which is formed of people from different classes who all care about each other, even those they've just met (see the Irish party below decks); and that there's an "elitist community," which is all about excluding others, is very rigidly confined to the upper class, and does not care about anyone outside that community.

I'm still working on how community appears in TWWW, although in my workshop, one of my friends pointed out the "limited to God-fearing-American-Christians" part, to which I said, "You mean, like 'God's chosen'?" I won't even get into the problems I would have with these characters as people--if nothing else, there's an element of exclusion that needs to be contrasted with the way community works in Titanic.

Firstly, what is the Flowers in the Attic reference, please?

Flowers in the Attic is a V.C. Andrews book--I haven't read it, but I've seen the movie (http://www.jabootu.com/flowersattic.htm), which is a weird little phenomenon in its own right. It's about these four kids--two teenagers, two very young children--who are locked up in an attic after their father dies and their mother turns them over to their grandmother. Very, very weird stuff. It's sort of famous for the incest theme--it's played down in the movie so that you just have a few weird moments (see that review I just linked to) between the older brother and sister, but apparently it's a lot more blatant in the book.

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